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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 01:28:24 PM »
The new Safari on Windows is boasted as one of the fastest browsers available for the Windows operating system. Well, that might be a little biased considering that it is according to Safari’s homepage, but I’ve tinkered with it over the past day and it is among the fastest browsers that I’ve used. It also has some shortcomings though…
First and foremost there have been a number of security concerns with Safari on Windows, which is something I definitely expected. Apple released Safari saying that their “engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one.” We all know that talk is cheap, and the vulnerabilities are something that I expected since Apple doesn’t make Windows software very frequently. Not only that, but this is also a pre-release application, so they have time to correct things before anyone can really start criticizing.
All browsers have their security woes....http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/06/niiiice.html  polonus posted this link also....

–The Features–

Here are the more notable features in Safari (for Windows) that you should be aware of, as specified on the Safari homepage.
Performance - As the Safari homepage points out, this browser is very good at loading Websites quickly. I was able to notice a significant reduction in page load times as I was browsing the Web, but that’s not the only kind of performance that is important. The Safari site fails to say what the memory usage is like for the browser, and I’ll be the first to say it’s horrible. At any given time, it is twice what Firefox, Opera, or even Internet Explorer is using up even when visiting the same sites.
Interface - Ahh, this is something I don’t really know that I can touch on. Apple made sure that they gave people the feeling that they are using a Mac computer by preventing the Windows operating system from controlling any aspect of the appearance. I think it is safe to conclude that people will be able to easily see when you’re using Safari on a Windows computer. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
Bookmarks - This is something that I cover more in the screencast, but overall this is one of the biggest downfalls in Safari. I’m a right-click/drag-and-drop freak and the Bookmarks Bar hardly allows for any of that. You can’t arrange your bookmarks by dragging them around in that bar, instead you have to use the Bookmark Collections which is a hassle. Oh, and did I mention that there is no Bookmarks sidebar for you to use?
Searching - The searching in Safari is almost its best feature. They have done a great job of making the results stand out, and that is something I very much appreciate.
Tabbed Browsing - Come on, all of the cool browsers have tabbed browsing these days. The only thing cool about Safari’s is that you can drag a tab off of the tab bar and it will open in a new window.
SnapBack - This is pretty nice as well since many of us perform a lot of searches. After doing a search and clicking on a result there will be a little orange icon in the upper-right search box in Safari. That will always be there as a means to take you back to the initial search that you performed.
AutoFill Forms - Meh, it’s a form filler and nothing more.
RSS Reader - The built-in RSS reader is a nice cross between the Live Bookmarks that Firefox has and a full RSS feed reader. It even has a cool slider that instantly lets you adjust the length of the articles being displayed. It’s important to note, however, that they do not let you configure an external feed reader for subscribing to the feeds though.
Resizable Text Fields - This seems to be the hot new thing since Netscape 9 Beta also has this feature. All it does is let you resize text boxes on a site, such as the one we have below for commenting.
Private Browsing - With Private Browsing enabled, Safari won’t store your Google searches, your cookies, the history of sites you’ve visited, your download history, or information from online forms you’ve filled out. With the increasing concern over privacy, this is a feature some users will appreciate.
Security - I think I said enough about this up top.
So that’s how I feel about the features Safari has in it that is supposed to make it the browser for you to use. Some of them are cool, but a lot of them have already been seen in existing browsers which makes them far from spectacular.

Not using anymore until some type of security is upgraded or so in further versions to be on the safe side 8) ;)

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2007, 02:06:29 PM »
Hi Dan,

Safari already updated: http://www.apple.com/safari/

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2007, 02:07:52 PM »
to what damian and what about the security issues still ??? ::)
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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 02:24:25 PM »
Hi drhayden1,

Because of the security problems in the Safari beta launched last Monday (running both on Mac OS X as under Windows), Apple launched version 3.0.1 as a security update. Apple fixed three vulnerabilities in its newer version. It must be said that Apple states that all three known vulnerabilities do not appear when the software runs on a Mac OS X. They know their system best, and they know for a long time there where incompatibility problems between Apple and Windows coding. Remember in the eighties of the previous century both platforms were launched from within the same hacker club.

The patched new version can be had from the Apple website.

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 02:39:44 PM »
thanks! like it on my work mini-mac
but don't know if i want to reinstall it or not ???
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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2007, 02:49:10 PM »
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Apple launched version 3.0.1 as a security update.
A direct download link would be nice.  :)  Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2007, 02:50:26 PM »
its up above bob in reply 16-put on your glasses ;D

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2007, 04:46:13 PM »
Unfortunayely, Apple doesn't indicate that it's an updated version and,
the installer still reflects the same version v. 4.42.0

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2007, 08:28:44 PM »
also posted this in updates bob ;)  the new version is 3.0.1(522.12.2)
Apple has released Safari 3.0.1 Public Beta for Windows XP and Vista which includes numerous security improvements which Apple notes do not affect Safari 3 Public Beta for Mac OS X.
Safari 3.0.1 Public Beta for Windows addresses the following issues in Safari 3 Public Beta for Windows:
CVE-ID: CVE-2007-3186
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to arbitrary code execution.
Description: A command injection vulnerability exists in the Windows version of Safari 3 Public Beta. By enticing a user to visit a maliciously crafted web page, an attacker can trigger the issue which may lead to arbitrary code execution. This update addresses the issue by performing additional processing and validation of URLs. This does not pose a security issue on Mac OS X systems, but could lead to an unexpected termination of the Safari browser.
CVE-ID: CVE-2007-3185
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution.
Description: An out-of-bounds memory read issue in Safari 3 Public Beta for Windows may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution when visiting a malicious website. This issue does not affect Mac OS X systems.
CVE-ID: CVE-2007-2391
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may allow cross-site scripting.
Description: A race condition in Safari 3 Public Beta for Windows may allow cross site scripting. Visiting a maliciously crafted web page may allow access to JavaScript objects or the execution of arbitrary JavaScript in the context of another web page. This issue does not affect Mac OS X systems.
The update is available via the "Apple Software Update" application, which is installed with the most recent version of QuickTime or iTunes on Windows and in http://www.apple.com/safari
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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2007, 09:34:31 PM »
Hi malware fighters,

So what should one do with the Safari on a Windows platform. Only use it for test purposes I guess.

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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2007, 09:46:23 PM »
thanks damian-using the safari at the moment doing this post ??? ::)
if my laptop blows up-no more redneck grasshopper ;D
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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2007, 04:13:23 AM »
Guys guys guys!!! this is a B E T A! it will (and did have) issues! especially the windows version.

It is there for you to try and the final version will be out in October for you to use as your main browser.

Apple is very quick about updating its software and does it in a few days (like it did with the security issues) instead of the month or more wait for MS.

you can use Apple Software Update to update to 3.0.1 instead of reinstalling (you did install it right?)

Apple Software Update will also update QuickTime and iTunes
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Re: Apple Safari - Now on Windows too!
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2007, 05:43:28 AM »
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It is there for you to try and the final version will be out in October for you to use as your main browser.
I have to admit, Apple has learned from Microsoft.
Put the product out there and let the people debug it for you.  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2007, 03:50:40 PM »
I installed it and thought it was all going well, however I later realised it had fouled up two other programmes I use so had to unistalled it and wind the clock back.  Interestingly both programmes it affected relied heavily on java.

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2007, 06:04:57 PM »
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it had fouled up two other programmes I use so had to unistalled it and wind the clock back.
Can you tell us which programs it affected ??
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