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Avast Vs. Comodo
« on: June 20, 2007, 07:54:47 PM »
I don't know if anyone here uses or has used Comodo AntiVirus, I'm wondering what some of the responses are, is Comodo better than avast?  What about resource usage etc.  I'm running Comodo right now, I switched from AVG to that and now am wondering about avast due to many positive reviews of the product.  Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 08:11:08 PM »
My advice? Stick with avast!...
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 08:20:46 PM »
Thanks RejZoR, but why?  I am a security software freak and I want the best for my machine.  I am convinced that AVG or avast! or Comodo, that all would protect me with little difficulty, but I want the best and I want reasons why one is better than the next.  I've posted the same kind of question on the AVG forum and the Comodo forum as well, trying to compare these products.  If you wouldn't mind, could you give me reasons why you like avast! better?  Thanks.

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 08:33:00 PM »
Go here:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

Click on comparatives.

On-demand comparative     February 2007

Alwil Software    Avast! Professional 93,86%

Test of other Anti-Virus products     February 2007 (PDF)

Comodo 27%
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 08:37:46 PM »
Detection, features/settings and way how it works, tech support and since you're a tech freak, contact with developers that actually listen to you.
You wouldn't belive it, if i'd tell you that many fixes and recommendations implimented into avast! are actually from me or from other (more active) forum members. I hardly remember any company do that regulary (when not in some special beta phase).
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 08:41:58 PM »
OK, thanks.  If I were to run avast! and have suggestions or recommendations etc. for the avast! staff, where would I go for that?  Is it right on the avast! website?

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 08:53:25 PM »
Well first Comodo's anti-virus isn't very mature (firewall is fine) and for the most part doesn't even feature in reviews(av-comparatives, etc.) because of that and when it does it isn't great.
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 08:56:55 PM »
My advice will be next: If you want a good reliable FIREWALL than go for COMODO Firewall (If you want reasons then just look in here: http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php  BTW I'm using it for a long period of time now,& still had no problems with it). & IF you need a good AV -- go for Avast! :D, It's very easy to configure, have this great support team, & it's low on resource consumption 8) )

On the other hand as I allways like to say: There's no 100% ideal AV in a world, & therefore the best deffence is common sense.

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 09:00:42 PM »
Thanks for the replies, I am definately switching to avast!  FreewheelinFrank told me to go to AV Comparatives and in the Test of other Anti-Virus Products February 2007, Comodo is pitiful.  I downloaded the PDF and even though they were testing version 1.1 and Comodo is at 2.0, AV Comparatives said they also tested the 2.0 and found that it still failed.  As far as I can tell, there are a lot of crappy AV programs on that website, but Comodo is the only one that actually failed.  Thanks for the help!

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 09:05:36 PM »
No problem, glad we could help, welcome to the forums.
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 09:05:46 PM »
Hey Matt glad we could help you, & wellcome to avast! family. :D 8)

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 09:07:43 PM »
also comodo av is a beta program so it has to have bugs or it would not be a beta would you want to run a beta to protect your pc  :)

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2007, 09:43:35 PM »
Right now, only Comodo Firewall you can trust (I use it 8))
The antivirus has a lot of necessary improvements to receive...
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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 01:34:08 AM »
Imho Avast has a better protection and lower resource hit.
It's also more flexible in configuration.

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Re: Avast Vs. Comodo
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 03:44:17 AM »
Hello all of you, thanks for all the posts in response, I want to post something that I recieved on the Comodo forum.  I placed the same question, Avast or Comodo on their forum, realizing full well that Comodo people will recommend Comodo and Avast will recommend Avast but I wanted reasons.  I got reasons for Comodo and here they are, not necessaraly meaning that I will use Comodo but that maybe we should all think about this a little.
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The Future of Computer Security

People keep asking me:

Is AV dead? Is HIPS the ultimate solution? Are we going to need to have chips surgically implanted in our…”

Okay, let’s not degenerate this in the first fifty words. I’d like to start with some facts about the state of software security for PCs.

1.   The world does not protect itself against Zero Day attacks. The majority thinks it does, but reality begs to differ.
2.   People buy AV products because they don’t know any better. Ignorance is bliss, but not in security. Security checks have been bumped up since 9/11 – enough said.
3.   People are lazy, myself leading that pack. We want things done, but we don’t want to lift a finger. It’s 2007, so we shouldn’t have to!


Let me expand on these points.

1. The world does not protect itself against Zero Day attacks.
Our primary protection is the use of software products called AV (antivirus). These products essentially create a signature for the malware, which functions much like a mug shot does for a criminal, but  only after the crime has been committed. In PCland, AV can never be used as protection against Zero Day attacks because the virus signature (a.k.a. the mug shot) has not been created yet; hence, no protection. In an ideal, if not idiotic, world, virii authors would be kind enough to submit their malware to AV vendors, wait for them to create signatures and update their AV users, and then release their malware to the public so that we could catch zero day attacks. We can expect that about as much as we can expect the criminal to go to the police and say “hey, I’m going to commit a crime”, and the police to prevent the crime. My point: we just don’t protect ourselves against Zero Day attacks.

2. People buy AV products because they don’t know any better.
People buy a lot of AV, so it must be the best protection available, right? Wrong. This is not a good argument. People buy a lot of cigarettes, too. This is not to discredit AV; it does what it was designed to do, but it just isn’t enough by itself.  Fraudsters and their toys are a force to be reckoned with, and AV alone isn’t up to the fight.

3. People are lazy.
Look around you: we built washing machines because we got tired of hauling our laundry and the washboard to the river and back. We built dishwashers so husbands wouldn’t have to wash dishes (and spot on, I say!). From cars to nappies, humans demand easy-to-use, painless solutions that give us more time for ourselves and deliver the desired outcome with minimal effort. We want the same from our internet security. We can clap our hands and turn on a lamp, so we should be able to “plug and protect” our PCs just as easily.

The future, from my point of view.
Our houses have doors, burglar alarms and insurance. Well, most do, at least. If you don’t have a door, a burglar can walk in and steal your PC; thus, the door prevents the burglar from entering.

But Melih, doors can be kicked in!

Yes, they can, so continuing to get stronger doors isn’t much of a solution. This is why we should never rely on just one layer of security. The door to the house isn’t enough, so we install a burglar alarm. If he can get in, at least we can detect him – prevention plus detection, two layers. Let’s say he cuts your electric wires or manages to turn off the burglar alarm in another way (They make it look so easy on TV, don’t they?). He walks away with not only your computer, but your priceless stamp collection, too. This is why we have insurance, to recover the value of stolen items. Thus, insurance is the cure, the third layer in our layered approach. Stacking up these layers, in order, to protect the PCs in our homes, we have:

1.   A door for prevention
2.   A burglar alarm for detection, and
3.   Insurance for the cure.

I thought you were going to tell us how to secure our PCs, not our homes, Melih!

I just did. The layered approach can be just as easily applied to our PCs. We use AV as our main source of defense, but is AV prevention? No, it’s detection, the veritable burglar alarm for a PC, but it must have the malware signature – the burglar’s mug shot – or it won’t sound the alarm. A new burglar, however, has a free pass, and no alarm goes off. This, my friends, is the infamous Zero Day attack, which our AV allows to happen.  Now relax, AV devotees. I’m not saying AV is crap; I’m just pointing out its weaknesses, so calm down. With AV, our PC “house” has a burglar alarm but no door. Ridiculous, right? But that’s how it is! Some of us employ Firewalls too, but that’s also a form of detection, with a little prevention thrown in, if it’s a decent Firewall that doesn’t leak. If a firewall does leak, it lets the burglar (malware) take something out of the house or, in firewallspeak, make a call to the Internet with your sensitive information. A good firewall sounds an alarm in the form of a popup when this happens, and a really good firewall gives you advice on what to do next. You need both the AV and the firewall to detect someone coming in and things going out. So now our PC house has a decent burglar alarm (detection), but no door. Yikes!

Dude, where’s my door?
This is where we are challenged and need to change the model altogether. We are backwards when it comes to our default settings, but we can overcome this. Today, it’s fair to say that PCs are running with the “default: allow” function, which means they are allowing everything to run and hoping to catch the bad stuff before it executes. It’s more of a swinging gate than a door, and can’t really provide the prevention we seek.

So we should run with the “deny all” function and only allow the good stuff, right?

Bingo. With the “default: allow” in place, we operate on a system of “blacklisting”, blocking only the things that we know ahead of time are destructive. By reversing that and only granting entry to those names on the “whitelist”, we save ourselves the hassle of trying to figure out who’s good and who’s bad. If you aren’t on the list, you’re not coming in, period.  Thus, we have a door, it’s solid, and it’s locked.

But Melih, who wants to deal with all the popups asking us if we trust ‘this or that’?

Frankly, no one, but why are we making the assumption that the whitelist database will be limited? It is feasible to create a very cogent whitelist security layer which will be virtually noise-free for the average user, and that is exactly what we are doing.

The days of going to bed without locking the front door are long past. PC security is, or should be, just as important as the security of our homes and personal belongings. We deserve to live our lives without the constant worry of burglary and vandalism, and only a layered approach will give us that peace of mind in regard to our computers. 

Melih’s prediction: prevention will become the first line of defense!
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that's it.  Melih is one of the Comodo staff and it's very interesting what was written.  I'm interested for responses on this

Matt Segstro