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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2007, 10:02:20 PM »
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The battery is not replaceable, that's the point
see how much i know about the iPhone ::)

You don't need to know, the photos in Franks link are interesting, the battery is glued and soldered into place.
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2007, 10:05:45 PM »
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/iphone-battery-replacement-plan-details-274282.php
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You probably know by now that the iPhone only lasts about 300-400 charges —and that's most likely full charges, not topping it off from 80% to 100% at night—before you have to send it into Apple for a replacement. Apple's just thrown up a page saying it's going to be $79 with $6.95 shipping, which is $85.95 per phone when you send yours in.
gee-think i'll go out and get one now-naw!make it 2 ;D 

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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2007, 02:52:45 AM »
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The battery is not replaceable, that's the point
see how much i know about the iPhone ::)

You don't need to know, the photos in Franks link are interesting, the battery is glued and soldered into place.

The battery wires are soldered to the motherboard the battery itself is removeable (but any opening of the phone voids the warranty)

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Exactly how long will the battery last on your $600 iPhone before you have to trash it?
don't know and don't care-didn't buy one and-what the battery replacements are let me guess $159.00 :o ;)
Battery is Li-Ion Polymer just like the current Apple laptop batteries. Expected life of battery is 14-18 months

Battery replacement will be similar to the iPods $70 + shipping if not under warranty (free in under warranty)

The battery life by all accounts isn't stunning so you are likely to be recharging regularly if you are using all the functionality itunes, etc. so I doubt you would get close to normal phone battery life. On my previous phones charged once, occasionally twice a week the Ni-Mh battery lasted under three years.

I wonder what the life would be for this with a Lithium-ion battery with a high recharge cycle, they are probably hoping it will be the life of the phone, but I would think it would be greater than 6 months. It is most certainly a design flaw not to be able to replace the battery.

Apple has NEVER allowed anyone to replace an iPod battery and will NEVER allow you to replace the iPhone battery GET USED TO IT its not a design flaw its Apple's way (always has been)


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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2007, 04:37:02 AM »
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Any other questions?
For the small fee of $599.00 to purchase the iPhone, is the telephone service at least
included  ???  ;D ;D
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2007, 05:43:18 AM »
There's been the usual hype about the iphone in Australia, but it'll never be sold here (not this model anyway) because it uses "outdated" CDMA whereas all other new internet phones are so-called "3G" which is faster and cheaper.
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2007, 03:00:33 PM »
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Battery is Li-Ion Polymer just like the current Apple laptop batteries. Expected life of battery is 14-18 months
Battery replacement will be similar to the iPods $70 + shipping if not under warranty (free in under warranty)

The battery life by all accounts isn't stunning so you are likely to be recharging regularly if you are using all the functionality itunes, etc. so I doubt you would get close to normal phone battery life. On my previous phones charged once, occasionally twice a week the Ni-Mh battery lasted under three years.

I wonder what the life would be for this with a Lithium-ion battery with a high recharge cycle, they are probably hoping it will be the life of the phone, but I would think it would be greater than 6 months. It is most certainly a design flaw not to be able to replace the battery.

Apple has NEVER allowed anyone to replace an iPod battery and will NEVER allow you to replace the iPhone battery GET USED TO IT its not a design flaw its Apple's way (always has been)

Get Used To It, hardly a great marketing strategy and not something I would contemplate, much less get used to. In my opinion it is absolutely a design flaw when you have to send your phone away to have the battery replaced, fine for an ipod but not an essential item like a mobile phone with your life on it. Sorry MAC but IMHO this is a design flaw that every 14 months or so you lose the use of your phone and all the other 'wonderful' gadgets, just because the battery needs changed.

I know of no other 'phone' that you have to do this with. So how long is the turn around and what is the user to do in the way of a phone whilst this is going on (have a spare phone and contract) ?

I guess much of the $70 dollars is the labour charge for all this replacement.
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2007, 10:23:04 PM »
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fine for an ipod but not an essential item like a mobile phone with your life on it.
Even for the iPod, it was a mistake not to make that a user changeable item.
Most other toys allow you to change your own battery.  ;D
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2007, 11:46:40 PM »
Wait! Ten Things You Should Know Before You Buy an iPhone
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/buyer.s-guide/wait-ten-things-you-should-know-before-you-buy-an-iphone-274432.php

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Most other toys allow you to change your own battery
the iPhone is a toy-it thought it was a phone and other stuff ???

iPhone Smash with a Hammer ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy20b7pCcrY

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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2007, 12:17:50 AM »
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fine for an ipod but not an essential item like a mobile phone with your life on it.
Even for the iPod, it was a mistake not to make that a user changeable item.
Most other toys allow you to change your own battery.  ;D

I agree it isn't a good strategy but whilst it is a pain in the rear and your wallet, but you could live without your ipod but your phone with all the iphone gizmos the whole point of putting it all on one platform surely is to dispense with the other stuff only to lose it every 14 months.

With their market share in the I guess they hope they can get away with it in the ipod, hell for $70 you can get a very good mp3 player.
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2007, 01:24:08 AM »
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With their market share in the I guess they hope they can get away with it in the ipod, hell for $70 you can get a very good mp3 player.
I guess if you've got to have a "Cadillac", you should be willing to pay the price for it and any repairs that come your way.  ;D
Most of us are quite happy with our Ford or Chevy.  :)
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2007, 01:47:11 AM »
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Most of us are quite happy with our Ford or Chevy
mine's a nice ford ride ;D ;) 8)
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2007, 02:16:14 AM »
Most of us are quite happy with our Ford or Chevy.
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2007, 02:21:41 AM »
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Re: Happy iPhone Launch Day....
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2007, 06:20:42 AM »
Guys its a great strategy, millions and millions of ipods have been sold and 700,000 iphones have already been sold!!!
Besides 90% never replace the battery in the iPod, they buy a new iPod thats how well the $70 fee works they say "For $40 more I can get a new iPod Nano"

Say what you will it is a good strategy for persuading people to buy new units instead of keeping the old model. It works I see it happen every day with the iPod and i suspect the same will happen with the iPhone, if not Im waiting to change out your battery behind the Genius Bar.
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