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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2007, 12:23:39 AM »
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There is a link to PC Tools Fw in my sig below for you to enjoy safe, free surfing
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Unfortunately PC Tools FW doesn't pass all the tests and Comodo does.
We know you have a personal dislike for Comodo but, even you can't ignore the facts that
Comodo is rated as the top FW program.
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2007, 03:54:57 AM »
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There is a link to PC Tools Fw in my sig below for you to enjoy safe, free surfing
rdmaloyjr,
Unfortunately PC Tools FW doesn't pass all the tests and Comodo does.
We know you have a personal dislike for Comodo but, even you can't ignore the facts that
Comodo is rated as the top FW program.

No, its not a personal dislike.  I tried CPF 4X, the last was to get CPF out of my XP security center (a fix was in that version).   I think I have a valid reason to mistrust comodo.  I do dislike software that is untrustworthy, don't confuse that with personal dislike.

Reviews can be bought & sold as has been discussed in this forum.  The creator of boclean reacted to an unfavorable review of comodo boclean by saying he paid for that review.  Strange he didn't get the review he paid for, certainly he should have gotten a much better review for the money.  The reviewer says he didn't get paid, he doesn't accept payment for reviews.  This has been covered in Wilders.

Reviews can be personal likes & dislikes, also.

If personal likes were my criteria I wouldn't be using PC Tools fw.  The only fw that I did like was ZA, its too bloated now.  I hope the avast fw will be like ZA without any bloat.  Or like Jetico v1 with a great data base of software & not annoying.
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2007, 02:33:35 PM »
We are still waiting for this evidence of this mistrust as to why comodo is untrustworthy ?

If your fears are correct is it not a good reason to bring it to light for others to evaluate your evidence and drop the products if found to be correct. We have heard lots of your not trusting comodo but not one word of evidence to support that.
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2007, 03:50:30 PM »
why comodo is untrustworthy?  just google

trusttoolbar or comodo trusttoolbar
or this {d80e1356-ac78-4218-961c-a7689b4cb7fe}
and {093caf40-3ba6-4071-a050-e830cbdc6480}

http://www.castlecops.com/atx-250.html
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2007, 04:42:43 PM »
why comodo is untrustworthy?  just google

trusttoolbar or comodo trusttoolbar
or this {d80e1356-ac78-4218-961c-a7689b4cb7fe}
and {093caf40-3ba6-4071-a050-e830cbdc6480}

http://www.castlecops.com/atx-250.html
All your link does is point us to a statement that deems the Comodo Trust Toolbar as a "Users Choice"
and therefore "Not Neded"
That doesn't make this program untrustworthy. It also has nothing to do with the Comodo Firewall which is the subject of
this thread.

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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2007, 05:03:02 PM »
Thanks bob3160

Normally that is "Not Neded" is a SPYWARE!!!!
Definitely not required - typically viruses, spyware, adware and "resource hogs"
Comodo TrustToolbar and Comodo Firewall come from same company called Comodo!
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
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« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2007, 09:27:36 PM »
We are still waiting for this evidence of this mistrust as to why comodo is untrustworthy ?

If your fears are correct is it not a good reason to bring it to light for others to evaluate your evidence and drop the products if found to be correct. We have heard lots of your not trusting comodo but not one word of evidence to support that.
As long as you turn a blind eye to comodo any discussion on comodo will be unfruitful, worse yet it will be harder to prove truth.  I won't explain that as I don't want to put any ideas in evil ears (or should I say eyes as this is visual, not audible).  For that reason this thread should never have happened.

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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2007, 09:43:16 PM »
How can we do anything else but turn a blind eye as you constantly say there is a problem with the trustworthiness of comodo yet fail to produce the evidence. Now you say you won't explain why, basically that comes down to put up or shut up.

No offence meant but that is an often coined phrase, if you won't tell us why, stop telling us there is a problem.
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2007, 09:47:49 PM »
Normally that is "Not Neded" is a SPYWARE!!!!
Not needed it just not needed, not a spyware... you're extrapolating the info.
For instance, CCleaner has Yahoo toolbar that is not needed for CCleaner. Is Yahoo toolbar a spyware, no way.

This thread proves nothing. There is no evidence of Comodo being a spyware. Hoaxes, myths, FUD...

As long as you turn a blind eye to comodo any discussion on comodo will be unfruitful, worse yet it will be harder to prove truth.
David is not blind... you do not prove anything and now he is the blind here...

I'm looking forward to the avast! fw. :)
We too, for sure, but not because Comodo is a spyware application.
Why don't you try to blame against Comodo in the download sites that assume the contrary?
For instance:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Comodo_Firewall_Pro/1132729513/1
http://www.download.com/Comodo-Firewall-Pro/3000-10435_4-10633448.html
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/comodofirewall.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Comodo_Personal_Firewall_d5033.html
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2007, 10:14:59 PM »
Comodo denied all, is normal!
But when I see site like this:
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=453074930
http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/trusttoolbar.shtml
Nevermore no-one software that come with name Comodo can be downloaded on my HD.
Trust is ended!
CCleaner is not "Trust Security" software how call itself Comodo.

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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2007, 10:35:15 PM »
[Edited because of new info brought by Frank and Polonus]
Comodo team defends TrustToolBar very hard: http://forums.comodo.com/trusttoolbar/is_trusttoolbar_spyware-t113.0.html
« Last Edit: August 11, 2007, 11:33:25 PM by Tech »
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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2007, 10:51:43 PM »
For heavens sake, it's just FUD:

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TrustToolbar description
TrustToolbar Plug-in - Realtime website identity authentication
TrustToolbar is a Free Internet Explorer Plug-in - Provides you with realtime visual identity assurance of who your current website really is!

Here are some key features of "TrustToolbar":

· Let's
you surf to the website you want simply by entering their brand, company or product names - remembering complex URLs is a thing of the past!
· Let's you search for specific products and services offered within the validated and Trusted Commercial Web containing millions of companies selling the prodcut or service you want!
· Bring the power of your favourite search engines right to your fingertips
· simply search directly from TrustToolbar. With TrustToolbar you've got the search power of Google, Excite, MSN, Bay9 & more right on your browser tool bar!
· Allows Homepage Owners to register friendly names for replacements to their complex URLs that will be easily remembered by family and friends.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Browser-Tweak/TrustToolbar.shtml

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Softpedia guarantees that TrustToolbar 3.0.0.69 is 100% CLEAN, which means it does not contain any form of malware, including but not limited to: spyware, viruses, trojans and backdoors.

This software product was tested thoroughly and was found absolutely clean, therefore it can be installed with no concern by any computer user.

The keyword here is tested.

The toolbar is detected by a few scanners, most don't detect it, some detected it in the past but withdrew the detection on re-examination.

The Comodo forum gives a reasonable explanation of why the toolbar might have mistakenly been detected as malware, but stresses that it's not.

So either some anti-spyware progs are making a mistake, or Softpedia is wrong, as is PC World:

http://msn.pcworld.com/article/id,120501-page,1/article.html

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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2007, 10:54:08 PM »
Yes Tech, but let us look at various info and the facts, for instance CastleCops for me still an authority states:
http://www.castlecops.com/tk586-Ttbbho_dll.html
and it is given a clear bill;
while here you have another opinion:
http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/browser_helper_objects/623-Ttbbhodll.html
or here: http://descriptions.securescout.com/tc/19016
And I think it is on dubious grounds, just because the workings of the BHO it is classified as a hijacker, not every BHO is bad for the way it behaves. Then they state that through the workings of this hijacker this could be able to load smut through associative search engines. That is a very heavy accusation and it means that you install the trustbar to load explicit adult content unto your machines, duh!
Who is trying to run COMODO into the ground just because of an outlay of a Browser Helper Object and the way in behaves inside IE?
It is just like with other things to-day, I think that COMODO is not guilty until proven to be, and not in the way of the Napoleonic law so popular now everywhere - you are guilty until you can prove your innocence, as many here like to present this case, waiting for reactions,

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Re: COMODO FIREWALL CRUCIFIED!
« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2007, 11:26:37 PM »
Well, I gave the toolbar a try.

Accusations against TrustToolbar:

Displays ads.
Hijacks browser
Difficult to uninstall

My findings:

Displays ads - false
Hijacks browser - false
Difficult to uninstall - false

At least some of the reasons given for the classification as spyware are unfounded.

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