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Offline Mr. Consumer

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Ridiculous new Firewall
« on: December 10, 2021, 08:40:38 PM »
The new Firewall is an absolute joke. I can't understand how come someone at Avast, an AV company who has provided users with so many features and options over the years along with good protection, can come up with something like this.
This is the first Firewall as far as I can remember that doesn't give users the ability to manually create their own rules for applications.
You can say, once it's executed you'll be able to..................bla bla bla. That's just a bad excuse, so please don't play that card.
This shouldn't have happened in the first place. Pretty sure many Avast devs who were working on the new Firewall didn't like the idea either. Whoever came up with this terrible idea should feel bad about it. Paid users don't pay to have fewer features than the basic yet solid Windows Firewall. You can't justify the decision in any way. Even free users don't deserve this because this is something even Windows Firewall has.
So, I request you to give users the feature that the old Firewall has. Make this change soon. Release a beta maybe within a week or couple and then release to the stable. Everyone will be happy once again.

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2021, 01:55:20 PM »
1. This is the first Firewall as far as I can remember that doesn't give users the ability to manually create their own rules for applications.
2. Paid users don't pay to have fewer features than the basic yet solid Windows Firewall.
1. https://support.avast.com/en-ww/article/Antivirus-Firewall-Application-Rules
2. Additional features (screenshot) are available in the paid products.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2021, 05:10:05 PM »
@Mr. Avast
In essence, you still have the same controls you just have to address them in a different way.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2021, 09:28:02 PM »
ridicule is not enough...I still try to understand the mind of the guy who designed this...it must surely be a 12 year old child.

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2021, 09:33:11 PM »
ridicule is not enough...I still try to understand the mind of the guy who designed this...it must surely be a 12 year old child.
You're acting like one. Things have changed, simply learn to adapt. Life changes daily.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2021, 12:49:34 AM »
Mr. Avast
Yes, you are correct.

I also voiced my opinion on the situation I see here:

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309315.msg1667378#msg1667378

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2021, 12:53:49 AM »
Things have changed, simply learn to adapt.
That doesn't mean that the change wasn't bad, or that people have to like it, though.

Example:
We got our current health situation in the world.
Everything changed in people's lives to worse over the course of the last year or two...

People do have to adapt. Because there's no other alternative.

But was that change in the world and people's lives any good?
Of course not.

In the case of Avast Firewall, as I already explained in more detail in my other post,
there are good alternatives. Even the default Windows Firewall is a more solid alternative.

And since there are good alternatives, then why anyone would want to adapt to something worse?

And if Avast Firewall will become impossible to disable as a component in the future, it would just mean a need to find an alternative antivirus.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2021, 12:57:43 AM by InvisibleMan »

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2021, 03:09:34 PM »
@the invisible one,
You're entitled to your opinion. They aren't everyone's.
The assumption your making about not being able to opt out of the firewall is just that,
an assumption. If you don't like the firewall, you have choices.
I find it works verywell. Not all of us are looking for complications.
Sometimes it's nice when something just works and does what it's supposed to do.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2021, 02:55:51 AM »
@the invisible one,
You're entitled to your opinion. They aren't everyone's.
The assumption your making about not being able to opt out of the firewall is just that,
an assumption. If you don't like the firewall, you have choices.
I find it works verywell. Not all of us are looking for complications.
Sometimes it's nice when something just works and does what it's supposed to do.
Not complications, but control.

I undestand that for many people simplicity is more important than a full control.

But there could be a simple / advanced mode split so that every users can get the level of control they need.

Technically, it's exactly what Windows Firewall is: by default it just does its job, but every user can go into the detailed settings and have the huge flexibility in adding or editing the rules.

By the way, I've seen reports that the new simplified firewall didn't stop some newly downloaded porgrams from accessing internet.

And since there's no way to manually add programs just in case, it would mean that there's no guarantee that it would stop every theoretically malicious program in time.

I'm not sure about it deserving that much trust to auto-detect applications, since it seems unreliable.
There needs to be a manual way to add rules, too. Also, editing or deleting existing rules are the basic abilities of almost any decent firewall, so why over-simplify that? I don't understand it. But oh well.

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2021, 01:08:33 PM »
Your opinion, your computer, ultimately your decision.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2021, 01:16:34 PM »
Not complications, but control. I undestand that for many people simplicity is more important than a full control.
Advanced/Expert users can set the firewall to "ASK" for full control.
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2021, 10:15:52 PM »
I agree with what users "n33h11" and "InvisibleMan" said above. I already fully explained what I feel about the Firewall. So no, please don't justify the ridiculous decision Avast made just because you're a long time user of it.
Avast went backwards with the new Firewall and also how they're spamming paid users with renew and other popups, looks like the whole of Avast is going backwards. I reinstalled Windows 11 the other day and gonna stick to Microsoft Defender for the time being, which provides good protection anyway but has some other issues. I'm also an expert and sensible user, so malware protection isn't something that worries me at all. I'll monitor the forum for changes in Avast, it's firewall and its treatment of paid users. Maybe I'll get bored and install Avast again soon.

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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2021, 10:27:45 PM »
I agree with what users "n33h11" and "InvisibleMan" said above. I already fully explained what I feel about the Firewall. So no, please don't justify the ridiculous decision Avast made just because you're a long time user of it.
Avast went backwards with the new Firewall and also how they're spamming paid users with renew and other popups, looks like the whole of Avast is going backwards. I reinstalled Windows 11 the other day and gonna stick to Microsoft Defender for the time being,
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Maybe I'll get bored and install Avast again soon.

:) Maybe you need to change your forum User Name :)
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2021, 11:12:27 PM »
I agree with what users "n33h11" and "InvisibleMan" said above. I already fully explained what I feel about the Firewall. So no, please don't justify the ridiculous decision Avast made just because you're a long time user of it.
Avast went backwards with the new Firewall and also how they're spamming paid users with renew and other popups, looks like the whole of Avast is going backwards. I reinstalled Windows 11 the other day and gonna stick to Microsoft Defender for the time being,
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Maybe I'll get bored and install Avast again soon.

 :) Maybe you need to change your forum User Name :)
Totally agree. :)
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Re: Ridiculous new Firewall
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2021, 01:39:38 AM »
Wait...what...I thought Bob was Mr. Avast. ;D