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Free Anti Virus Programs - The other freebies out there
« on: November 24, 2007, 03:20:02 AM »
I realize that many old timers are still here along with many people that have never seen a post by me.  I'm still around and still testing out other AV programs.  Avast! has always been my favorite "Free" program and hats off to the staff and users.  Along with beta testing I also use other AV programs to see how they "fit".  Currently, Comodo is a few actual releases away from being relied upon.  But the purpose of this post is to show that Avast has some competition to be looked upon without bias.  For example, AVG is now just as good as Avast for what AVG is designed to do.  There support forum for the free version is a no fooling around affair.  It is not a social community but one that is there to only address problems.  This cuts down on nonsense and gets the developers to only see posts related to the issue of AVG.  Also, PC Tools AV has reached ICSA and VB100 status.  It is no longer something to be scoured upon.  This thread is not intended to find criticism with Avast but to take a look upon the direction Avast is going compared to other programs we used to, and for some still do, laugh at.  This is no longer a laughing matter.  Avast has a few competitors in their market niche nipping at its heels.  We need to take a serious look at the competition within this niche, which is the market niche of developers that offer a free use as well as a pay for license to use.
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2007, 12:42:46 PM »
This cuts down on nonsense and gets the developers to only see posts related to the issue of AVG.
I disagree. Their forum is very very stripped and even this way, the help is not as good, deep, quick as in avast forums. I won't call avast forums as a social community, but an active community. I don't find that many nonsense posts here ;)
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2007, 02:17:22 PM »
And trying to define: NONSENSE I simply couldn't agree... In here we can find some serious stuff, we can find some good and some bad jokes, we can also find some sad s**t, we can find some posts where we announced our babies were born, we can find some posts where our good friends, long time avast forum members passed away... true there was a lot of fights in the past, but in the same time take a look at it from this angle:

All this stuff we can find in our everyday life, every single day. So defining this word "NONSENSE" we can also say life is nonsense... well, maybe it is, but sure it is fun. Remember, we are not robots nor we want to be.

AVG is good product, hats down, and while their forum may be better and more technical help, it simply doesn't have soul we can find in here. Just my humble opinion.
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 02:33:01 PM »
And trying to define: NONSENSE I simply couldn't agree... In here we can find some serious stuff, we can find some good and some bad jokes, we can also find some sad s**t, we can find some posts where we announced our babies were born, we can find some posts where our good friends, long time avast forum members passed away... true there was a lot of fights in the past, but in the same time take a look at it from this angle:

All this stuff we can find in our everyday life, every single day. So defining this word "NONSENSE" we can also say life is nonsense... well, maybe it is, but sure it is fun. Remember, we are not robots nor we want to be.
Agree.

AVG is good product
Agree. But not better than avast.

and while their forum may be better and more technical help, it simply doesn't have soul we can find in here. Just my humble opinion.
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 05:03:55 PM »
Culpeper,
The main differences in the AVG forum and the Avast forum is quite simple.
If you need help relating to AVG, simply go to their forum.
If you need help on virtually any software including AVG, go to the avast! forum.  :)
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 05:28:10 PM »
The producers of Avast!, in the end, aren't creating a social atmosphere as a going concern for the product.  Especially, since most people use the free version.  What do they [Avast! staff] get out of that?  Please, stay on topic, don't get your feelings twisted and look at the different products that are out there without being so damn biased whenever someone comes on here with this topic.  Cool, Avast! has a social forum for those that never get out of the house.  What does the product have compared to its competition?  How is that better than the competition?  Do advantages of Avast! also have some disadvantages like additional resource use?  And so forth.  Please read the first post carefully.  I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with the old timers about their crib.  And keep in mind many people that are going to be reading this thread are going to be looking for a free AV and not a party.

The whole idea of bringing up the "forum' to begin with was to give the old timers the hint that perhaps they are not best suited to address this thread since they can't help but be biased.  Avast! is a business.  You want to help them out or take advantage of free room and board?

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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2007, 05:39:58 PM »
Other users that will be looking for a free antivirus will certainly not judge about this antivirus by reading this forum. They come here for help, and there is always someone who will unselfishly try to help them.

Social forum for those that never leave their house ? That's not true. We all can access this forum at work too. Of course we don't have to, it's not like a must, but we feel responsible to provide an answer if someone expect it from us. I don't know, but maybe we know how to manage our free time. I'm assuring you my life is a lot more than just sitting and answering in this forum, and I am sure there are other too who can say the same.

Biased or not, I am sure I am not biased... I am the one who tried every single antivirus and firewall out there. It's not my fault if there is nothing better than this so I always come back.
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2007, 05:46:47 PM »
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The whole idea of bringing up the "forum' to begin with was to give the old timers the hint that perhaps they are not best suited to address this thread since they can't help but be biased.  Avast! is a business.  You want to help them out or take advantage of free room and board?
Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed ???
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 05:54:22 PM »
Other users that will be looking for a free antivirus will certainly not judge about this antivirus by reading this forum. They come here for help, and there is always someone who will unselfishly try to help them.



You just proved my point.  You are unable to look at anything related outside this forum or this product without getting hurt.  If you think people are not reading these threads while deciding what they want to use then you have become institutionalized and I asked you old timers to avoid this phenomenon so as not to pollute this thread.  And the more you guys defend your front porch and the less you discuss the competition the less likely someone is going to choose Avast! because the old timers are burnt out and are unable to stay on topic.  Stop avoiding the subject of this thread with all this subterfuge.  It isn't going to help Avast!
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Re: Free Anti Virus Programs - The other freebies out there
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2007, 05:58:35 PM »
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You just proved my point.  You are unable to look at anything related outside this forum or this product without getting hurt.  If you think people are not reading these threads while deciding what they want to use then you have become institutionalized and I asked you old timers to avoid this phenomenon so as not to pollute this thread.
What are you talking about ??? Maybe your Trolling ???
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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 05:59:29 PM »
aren't creating a social atmosphere as a going concern for the product.
I don't think so... lots of Professional users start with Home and forums...

without being so damn biased whenever someone comes on here with this topic.
I don't think we're biased. We tested a lot of other antivirus and products. We're not stupid biased people.

Cool, Avast! has a social forum for those that never get out of the house.
I've used and tested McAfee, Norton, BitDefender, Avira, AVG, ClamWin, NOD32 and (on-line) Kasperky.
Are you sure I never get out of home?

What does the product have compared to its competition?  How is that better than the competition?
There are a lot of threads that already discussed this... look, we can start a new one, but please don't think it's a biased, it just another one...

Avast! is a business.  You want to help them out or take advantage of free room and board?
We are helping them and the others and you can't imagine how...
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Re: Free Anti Virus Programs - The other freebies out there
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 06:06:20 PM »
Okay, you guys made your bed.  See ya in another year or so.  Lets just not talk about such things as Comodo a year from now, or PC Tools, or AVG, and so forth.  We wouldn't want to do that.  Lets just talk about how long we have been living under one roof while sitting on the couch.  I guarantee that the staff are discussing this subject and you guys have been a great help for them. *rolleyes*.

BTW, you haven't been trolled.  You've been owned.

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Re: The other freebies out there
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 06:06:57 PM »
You just proved my point.  You are unable to look at anything related outside this forum or this product without getting hurt.  If you think people are not reading these threads while deciding what they want to use then you have become institutionalized and I asked you old timers to avoid this phenomenon so as not to pollute this thread.  And the more you guys defend your front porch and the less you discuss the competition the less likely someone is going to choose Avast! because the old timers are burnt out and are unable to stay on topic.  Stop avoiding the subject of this thread with all this subterfuge.  It isn't going to help Avast!

No you missed my point. I am getting hurt when someone is trying to say that we don't have life other than this virtual life in this forum... I have my family, my beautiful wife and daughter and they are not missing anything. I am not one of those that keeps staring into the screen whole day, while this whole life is passing by. Sometimes I think how I manage to find some time for everything, but it looks I do manage.
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Re: Free Anti Virus Programs - The other freebies out there
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 06:11:50 PM »
Okay, you guys made your bed.
What do you want to talk about?
Advantages and disadvantages? Features?
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Re: Free Anti Virus Programs - The other freebies out there
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2007, 07:30:23 PM »
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Lets just not talk about such things as Comodo a year from now, or PC Tools, or AVG, and so forth.
If you would look at the forum, you would notice that there are many threads about these subjects.
I think sometimes to many but, to come out and say that they aren't being  discussed is absurd.
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