Well essexboy,DavidR,Tech, & Rafel thank you all for your input. After some hours, (due to Vista being slow), I installed all that was mentioned with only a few hiccups (trojan horse!!!!!!!) found from avast!(will get to those in another post!). Everything is running well together (keeping my fingers crossed). It has been an experience using Vista, one that I dont think I want to repeat!! Thanks again for the input. Trust that you will all be there, again(!) when I need you !! By the way, I was aware that Windows Defender was part of Vista OS but I use Wins XP and therefore Defender is pretty much Greek to me !! It auto updated itself with ZA and avast! Enjoy your week end. And Thanks again.