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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2008, 05:47:24 PM »
MySharedFiles alone already uses a chunk of that 250 Gig.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2008, 04:24:19 PM »
I've just received an email from Comcast advising me of the following:

http://www.comcast.net/terms/network/amendment/

I guess that means that the regulatory agencies aren't going to step in
and curtail Comcast's restrictions on their customers.

If that's the case, how long will it take till all the major ISP's do the same and,
how long will it be till they lower the allowed bandwidth to fall below an acceptable limit ???

(IMHO) If this is allowed to go forward unchallenged, it will eventually affect all of us in a negative way.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2008, 04:48:22 PM »
I've just received an email from Comcast advising me of the following:

http://www.comcast.net/terms/network/amendment/

I guess that means that the regulatory agencies aren't going to step in
and curtail Comcast's restrictions on their customers.

If that's the case, how long will it take till all the major ISP's do the same and,
how long will it be till they lower the allowed bandwidth to fall below an acceptable limit ???

(IMHO) If this is allowed to go forward unchallenged, it will eventually affect all of us in a negative way.
You are absolutely right, it will not be long before all major ISPs start this. Im just wondering what kind of cap Charter will start out with.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2008, 05:37:44 PM »
Looks like you are in for a small taste of what we already get in the UK, I say small as when you compare 10GB monthly download limit for British Telecom broadband users (which is higher than many ISPs) 250GB sounds very generous.

Those UK ISP that still advertise unlimited downloads also have a get out of jail card in their supposed 'Acceptable Use Policy' and they are the ones determining what is acceptable.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2008, 07:42:37 PM »
If you though Comcast was reasonable with their 250GB limit your right. They are nothing compared to AT&T which is considering a cap as low as 20GB

http://www.macworld.com/article/136566/2008/11/att_bandwidth.html


The US Government has got to pass those Net Neutrality laws quickly before more ISPs join in on this.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2008, 07:13:11 PM »
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2009, 09:50:34 PM »
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2009, 07:27:07 PM »
Hi forum folks,

Another threat here will be supplying or denying content according to geo-location.
http://www.nartv.org/2004/11/03/geolocation-filtering/
And a lot of innocent users are not even aware what is going on,
http://www.notanotherconspiracy.com/2009/01/internet-censorship-geolocation.html

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« Last Edit: January 21, 2009, 07:30:15 PM by polonus »
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2009, 08:49:03 PM »
Hey, Cox: Stop Playing God With the Internet

I understand that they can't have people downloading 1TB each month. But my view is that if you are selling 5, 10, 15Mbps service you should be able to provide that amount of service. Dont sell 10Mbps service when you can only provide 1.5Mbps, period. No throttling, no bandwidth caps, just sell only what you can actually provide. That way when people actually USE their connection you dont have to throttle the connection because you have oversubscribed the network by 5,000 people.
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2009, 09:06:56 PM »
Hi .:Mac:.,

Google is given you the tools (three at the moment) to check on what your broadband company is doing?
The tools will give you an insight in what sense the broadband company is tinkering with your connection,
what traffic they are clamping on or blocking to an extent. And why they are not concerned with a bit of added user-anger?

Read about it here:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20090128/1138383558.shtml

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Test and tell us how bad the situation is for you personally...

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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2009, 11:31:57 PM »
Hi .:Mac:.,

Google is given you the tools (three at the moment) to check on what your broadband company is doing?
The tools will give you an insight in what sense the broadband company is tinkering with your connection,
what traffic they are clamping on or blocking to an extent. And why they are not concerned with a bit of added user-anger?

Read about it here:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20090128/1138383558.shtml

Go here for the tools: http://www.measurementlab.net/
Test and tell us how bad the situation is for you personally...

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Charter does not throttle, cap or degrade my connection is any way, they are one of the few good ISPs (thats why I have their service). The problem is that Charter may not be around much longer as its widely believed they will be filing for bankruptcy soon: http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090128/ap_on_hi_te/charter_paul_allen


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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2009, 10:49:30 PM »
Hi .:Mac:.,

Let us go back to basics, and repeat a little history. Along with the recent interim appointment of Michael Copps as interim FCC chairman, this is really good news for Internet users. Remember the commercial Internet was created by the Federal Government with the High Speed Computing and Communications Act of 1991. The commercial Internet was owned and operated by the Federal Government under the auspices of the National Science Foundation. In 1993 the NSF turned over the Internet to the telcos with the proviso that it be operated for the common good. If the telcos are reneging on this deal, then the time is right for the US Govt to take back control of the Internet and operate it as a public utility for the common good,

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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2009, 12:20:36 PM »
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2009, 07:58:12 AM »
Hi .:Mac:.,

Let us go back to basics, and repeat a little history. Along with the recent interim appointment of Michael Copps as interim FCC chairman, this is really good news for Internet users. Remember the commercial Internet was created by the Federal Government with the High Speed Computing and Communications Act of 1991. The commercial Internet was owned and operated by the Federal Government under the auspices of the National Science Foundation. In 1993 the NSF turned over the Internet to the telcos with the proviso that it be operated for the common good. If the telcos are reneging on this deal, then the time is right for the US Govt to take back control of the Internet and operate it as a public utility for the common good,

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Polonus is right as always. Maybe it is time for the government to take control.



Also My ISP, Charter, is finally joining the bandwagon:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Exclusive-Charter-Implementing-New-Caps-100637

I don't think I will hit 100GB anytime soon, especially since I don't have a website like Bob's SharedFiles. Its just The fact that 5 years ago My connection was 384Kbps and today its 5Mbps. In 5 more years what will we be doing with the internet? Will we have advanced at all due to these caps? (most ISPs are not being as kind as Charter and Comcast on their caps)
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Re: Net Neutrality
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2009, 03:43:57 PM »
Even at a 100GB cap it is ten times higher than many in the UK with BT, a major broadband supplier, it has a 10GB cap then you start paying more or have to take out a different contract. Many others however, don't even offer 10GB.

I can see how many would get up to that kind of 100GB cap, download a few HD movies or TV shows and it won't take long.
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