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98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« on: March 24, 2008, 04:47:53 PM »
I know this has been mentioned previously, but has there been any fixes put in place for the 4.8 beta build that fixes it so that the quick launch icons do not disappear from view when running a full scan?
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 04:56:31 PM »
I don't know if that is related to any resource limitation of your system ?

That is something that I've heard in the forums. Win98 is susceptible to problems when resources get low, when I used to have win98, if resources got below 20% I usually rebooted so they didn't get so low as to actually crash.

When using win98 I was very picky about what I allowed to run on boot and prior to running something resource intensive like a scan I would close al other non essential programs.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 09:58:57 PM »
DavidR,

Thanks for your reply.

As you say about closing applications down, that's what I think I will do, like first disconnecting from the internet then closing the firewall, and hopefully when running a scan the quick launch icons will remain viewable.

So when I do this I wont have anything in the system tray apart from Avast as I have done like you did yourself when running 98.

Do you think that come August time there will be a direct link to the 4.8 version for users of other AV programs that want to start using Avast?

I ask because at the moment users need to install 4.7 before they can go for 4.8.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 10:44:35 PM »
I never went as far as disabling the firewall, only non-essential applications.

I would, say 4.8 will be much sooner than August. Though there is no firm date for release we have been beta testing it for a few weeks starting with 4.8.1137, 4.8.1147 and the third beta 4.8..1157 so things are progressing reasonably well IMHO. However, I'm just an avast user like yourself.

They don't have to install 4.7 to get 4.8, that is for the beta version and for your average user I wouldn't recommend beta testing on a non=test machine. They can get 4.7 install it and when 4.8 is released for regular release the auto update process will take care ot the update.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 11:51:14 PM »
DavidR,

The only reason I would have preferred to upgrade to 4.8 was that I thought perhaps the resource 98 problem for the quick launch icons disappearing would have been resolved and fixed, looks like that is not the case.

I suppose disabling my firewall is ok if I disconnect the modem.

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I am actually using AVG at the moment, but I am preparing to use Avast as AVG is dropping support for 98 S.E
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 11:54:16 PM »
I don't believe that win98 quick launch icons was addressed as I don't believe it was established it was definitely an avast problem.

Yes disconnecting the modem would ensure no connection was made whilst the firewall was disabled.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 12:13:47 AM »
I don't believe that win98 quick launch icons was addressed as I don't believe it was established it was definitely an avast problem.

But it must be an Avast problem as no other AV program that I have used in the past has ever given me this problem.

Can this be passed to tech support again perhaps?
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 01:40:34 AM »
If it were truly an avast problem then the forums would be full of it (and we don't see that) as there are now very few AVs that support older OSes and it would effect every single win98/avast user and that simply isn't the case.

I'm not saying you don't have a problem, just that there is no clear evidence to say the problem is down to avast.

If someone from the Alwil team sees this forum, perhaps, there have been a few topics relating to this icon issue but it has never been resolved.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 02:03:38 AM »
The only reason I would have preferred to upgrade to 4.8 was that I thought perhaps the resource 98 problem for the quick launch icons disappearing would have been resolved and fixed, looks like that is not the case.
I can't see a connection with avast ???
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 12:50:10 PM »
If it were truly an avast problem then the forums would be full of it (and we don't see that) as there are now very few AVs that support older OSes and it would effect every single win98/avast user and that simply isn't the case.
Would that not be because many users like myself use AVG at the moment, and the reason I am interested in going for the free edition of Avast is because AVG will soon be dropping support for Windows 98 S.E, therefore no updates etc

Also some users may not be too bothered about this problem so therefore they refrain from posting about it.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2008, 12:53:31 PM »
nightshade, we wish you have no problems with avast, I mean, if you need help, we can try to give you. I just can't see a relationship between the icons on quick launch bar disappearing and avast... maybe a Windows 98 memory glitch... it won't be the first one: Windows 98, when stressed, manages memory loaded programs very badly.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2008, 05:18:59 PM »
nightshade, we wish you have no problems with avast, I mean, if you need help, we can try to give you. I just can't see a relationship between the icons on quick launch bar disappearing and avast... maybe a Windows 98 memory glitch... it won't be the first one: Windows 98, when stressed, manages memory loaded programs very badly.

I am not the only one that has experienced this problem, although I cant remember if they were all 98 related or not.
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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 05:54:41 PM »
Just to confirm that at least one other user has this problem... I have 5 PC's on my home network. One is XP and the others are all Win98 SE. Two of the Win98's have printers attached and typically run at 65% resources after boot-up. Occasionally they will decline into the twenties depending on the quantity of open apps as well as particular apps (Winword). The other two Win98 SE machines run in the mid 70% for resources and rarely go as low as 50%. All are AMD's rangeing from 1.2 Ghtz/100 fsb to 2.083 Ghtz runnining a 333 fsb. All have 512 Mb of ram as they are only Win98 Se machines (error on the side of caution). My Quick Launch icons as well as Explorer icons disappear after using avast 4.7 on the Win98 SE machines. Of course a reboot fixes the problem. Read into it as you will, just reporting the facts!

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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 06:15:43 PM »
Just to confirm that at least one other user has this problem... 
Ah, so it's not just me that has the problem.
Can this be passed to support so at the very least to have a look to see if anything can be done?

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Re: 98 S.E problems on previous 4.7 build
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 06:01:23 AM »
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My old computer is on W98SE and I use to experience the same problem you 2 are reporting. It is a memory problem with W98. Increase the RAM over 512 mb and the problem will go away. I run my W98 computer with 640 mb of RAM.


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