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brockey01

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Internet email scanning question
« on: April 11, 2008, 08:53:55 AM »
im using windows live mail for an email client and avast pro seems not to be scanning attachments i look to see the status of file/ attatments scaned and it says none . im using it to being my hotmail mail to me. any idea i dont see it scanning or working when i open an email that has an attachment.

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 02:50:39 PM »
It won't even be scanning email originating from hotmail (much less the attachment) as it is not using the POP3 protocol when it is being brought into the Windows Live Mail. It uses something which I think is called WebDav which converts the web mail so it can be viewed in an email client rather than your browser.
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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 12:59:37 AM »
Does that mean it will only scan POP3 accounts??

IE, Accounts only used by Windows Mail Only, and not Hotmail.??

I would like to know that too.

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2008, 01:07:11 AM »
Hi charliemor45,

GMail and Hotmail are found to be insecure:
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Gmail, called Google Mail in Germany, Austria and the United Kingdom, is a free Web-based email (webmail), POP3 and IMAP e-mail service provided by Google. It was released on April 1, 2004 as a private beta release by invitation only and was opened to all as a public beta on February 7, 2007. With an initial storage capacity of 1 GB, it dramatically increased the standard for free storage.

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2008, 01:08:38 AM »
Does that mean it will only scan POP3 accounts??
IE, Accounts only used by Windows Mail Only, and not Hotmail??
Yes, unfortunately.

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charliemor45

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2008, 01:14:43 AM »
Right Tech, that is the succint answer.

Thanks alot

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2008, 01:18:25 AM »
Right Tech, that is the succint answer.

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2008, 01:23:32 AM »
It monitors the standard email ports, 25, 110, 119 and 143 and it is expecting the standard protocol for those ports.

So it is pretty much pop3 accounts, Windows Mail is an email client (not an email account/protocol) that is capable of downloading and sending email using pop3 and smtp protocols.

Hotmail is a web-based email normally viewed through a browser, though certain email clients, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express and MS Outlook can convert it so as to download it to be viewed on your email client, but it doesn't use the email protocols or ports, so it won't be monitored.
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charliemor45

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2008, 01:26:47 AM »
Excellent, my Yahoo Mail Plus Account uses SSL ports.

Avast will do that one won't it?

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2008, 01:28:17 AM »
Excellent, my Yahoo Mail Plus Account uses SSL ports.
Avast will do that one won't it?
To ATT Yahoo SSL mail see: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=14854.msg238394#msg238394
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charliemor45

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2008, 01:44:26 AM »
It would appear that it is scanning away happilly with the normal SSL settings, as I see the little 'globe' spinning. :)

The article you directed me to Tech, was a little confusing.

Anyway, I have set my Security Setting in Windows Mail to Highest, but put this Forum's address as a safe domain/sender

Thanks again. ;)

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2008, 03:42:50 AM »
If you are using secure connections for Yahoo in your Mail client then there is absolutely no way that avast is scanning your Yahoo mail.

If you want Yahoo mail delivered over secure connections and scanned by avast then, at present, you need to use a program like STunnel.

Also see this post.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 03:45:04 AM by alanrf »

charliemor45

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2008, 10:20:03 AM »
Thanks alanrf :)

At least it will scan the mail from the ISP mailboxes which are the normal ports.

Point taken. ;)

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Re: Internet email scanning question
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 12:09:03 AM »
The article you directed me to Tech, was a little confusing.
Sorry. I suggest, like Alanrf, the use of Stunnel. If you need help on using it, just ask for it ;)
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