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I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« on: April 24, 2008, 09:16:15 PM »
I observed that anyone has responded to few things in my first post and I find better to ask one of them in a new one:

New version avast 4.8 has antispyware but I can't see any specific module and i wonder if this new feature can dull a spyware installed on my system like Spybot and if it is necesary to be installed.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 10:24:53 PM »
There isn't a dedicated module.
The antispyware capacity is on the virus database and the cleaning procedure.
avast detect and block spyware as well as viruses.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 12:02:08 AM »
So you think it is necessary the support of a dedicated program to prevent spies , an antispyware like Spybot?

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 12:19:14 AM »
I would suggest SAS (free) which isn't resident but on-demand scanner so it doesn't use any resources (if you stop it running on startup), I run it once a week (first download the latest updates) as part of my regular weekly system maintenance.

If using winXP or Vista SUPERantispyware On-Demand only in free version. Or Spyware Terminator Resident scanner (if you use this don't install the toolbar or crawler or the anti-virus module).

I have used Spybot in the past but I stopped using it before the new version came out and the fact SAS is very good I have never gone back to it.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 02:51:02 AM »
So you think it is necessary the support of a dedicated program to prevent spies , an antispyware like Spybot?
Sincerely, not. I have SuperAntispyware and SpywareTerminator as a second opinion, just for on-demand scannings.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 09:14:44 AM »
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 03:48:32 PM »
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 11:16:59 PM »
I would suggest SAS (free) which isn't resident but on-demand scanner so it doesn't use any resources (if you stop it running on startup), I run it once a week (first download the latest updates) as part of my regular weekly system maintenance.

If using winXP or Vista SUPERantispyware On-Demand only in free version. Or Spyware Terminator Resident scanner (if you use this don't install the toolbar or crawler or the anti-virus module).

I have used Spybot in the past but I stopped using it before the new version came out and the fact SAS is very good I have never gone back to it.

SAS is very good at detecting b/c of its new DDA (direct disk access) which bypasses the OS. i scan with that and spybot and have spywareblaster as realtime. (i also keep windows defender on even though it does basically nothing, but layered protection is the way to go).

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2008, 12:16:38 AM »
SpywareBlaster isn't real-time as it is a passive/immunisation means of protection, adding to restricted sites and IE/firefox/opera, etc. activeX (IE only) and tracking cookies etc. So it isn't actually running.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 11:21:27 AM »
Good morning.

Anti-Malwre - "PC Protection From Nasties In General".

It is very easy to become paranoid and feed that paranoia by installing layer upon layer of protection, while ignoring or forgetting that something like 99% of malware infection is self-inflicted, i.e., the result of sloppy practices and careless internet activities.

Most of our arguments for (or against) a particular piece of software stem as much from comfortable familiarity as from trusted performance. To a large degree this is justifiable, as a program we are not able to use with ease and comfort might be worse than having none at all.   

I currently use the following as permanent protection:
- Avast 4.8 Pro (having fallen out with AVG),
- SuperAntispyware Pro,
- Windows Defender,
- SpywareBlaster.

For on-demand, I have:
- A-Squared Free 
- AVG-AS (ex Ewido) Free
- Spybot S&D (mainly for nostalgia, I suppose...).    

My firewall is ZoneAlarm 6.1.744, Free.  (I have a Pro license, for this and for v.7xx, but prefer the simpler free, and earlier, version - comfortable familiarity?)


Over some time, I have compiled a folder of captive "nasties" that I use to try to test (and, in my own way, 'evaluate') the various malware scans, etc. 

They have been gathered from various sources, including P2P sources, and the quarantine chests of several anti-virus and anti-spyware programs.  They also include a Trojan simulator (www.misec.net/trojansimulator) and the spycar files (www.spycar.org).

The total number of files (at this time) is 45.
They range in nature from benign, but suspicious, to downright evil.

The following figures might be of interest.  They show how many of the 45 infected or suspect files were detected by different scans.

The results are, of course, not definitive, and I regard them merely as a general indicator of a program's effectiveness as a malware detector.

(Reference, "i also keep windows defender on even though it does basically nothing".  This also was my opinion; however, the detection rate for Defender might be surprising - it impressed me, especially as none of the test "nasties" was harvested from Defender's quarantine files.)

Scan                 n/45 Detected
A-Squared Free      20
Windows Defender   17
Avast         16
AVG-AS           6
SuperAntispyware      1
Spybot S&D        0

Kaspersky Online   18
Panda Online      16
Trend Online        7

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2008, 01:54:07 AM »
I click on the link you gave and appears that Superantispyware have real time protection but dont know if this include registry protection. But I have to say that I have installed avast in other computer and dont alert neithe windows me that the firewall was disabled. I run spybot and detect me Firewall and (long time ago) Antiveurs Overrride.
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SAS is very good at detecting b/c of its new DDA (direct disk access) which bypasses the OS.
Hey hey hey! easy dude!  :o Im not an expert! b/c, DDA, bypass..What means all that?  ???
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SpywareBlaster isn't real-time as it is a passive/immunisation means of protection, adding to restricted sites and IE/firefox/opera, etc. activeX (IE only) and tracking cookies etc. So it isn't actually running.
Some people have Spybot / Adaware and SpywareBlaster or Spysweeper (i think do the same) and sometimes I tought to install them but in the latest Spybot versions have a inmunisation feature that works good so I dont install the others.
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while ignoring or forgetting that something like 99% of malware infection is self-inflicted, i.e., the result of sloppy practices and careless internet activities.
I don't agree, an infection never is selfinlicted, you never want to get infected. But internet (like the world) is a very vast place fotr all type of atttractive contents (porn, shocking, hacker) and sometimes is difficult to don't succumb to temptation.... Who don't enter sometime in one of this sites? Of course! This are part of our subconscious and sometimes is good to free it, in a controlled way of course. As the world, internet is not always a safe place, but this doesn't mean that we have limitate our navegation habits. If all the people think like this, the man kind never explore the world and never has known the deep sea or space. Sometmes we have to run the risk if you want to learn or discover (I like this word) something. ;) Don't doing it, we don't make the most of interent 100% (I thinkit like in life, is worth enjoy to the max  :D) and is a pity, cause the internet tariff (at least in Spain) is expensive.!  And the best tool to help us is the one that protect us better.
What do you mean with on demand? I use windows firewall, it is probably for that im infected? see the other my post.
Thanks for that chart, I consider it. But I read in Windows defender page that this is only for Original windows users,and thats not my case... ::) Im considering to migrate to Linux, and avoid all of this.

But i saw that there is a Linux Avast, so Linux isnt invencible neither.. :-\
Thanks all guys! ;)
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2008, 02:06:06 AM »
The SAS real-time protection is only with the paid for version and not for the free version. That said I don't know if it has a registry protection function, rather a registry scanning on scan to try to detect known malware entries in the registry but not actually preventing changes to the registry.

When I had Spybot S&D installed (the old version) it detected I had spywareblaster installed and basically said that was better for immunisation. I don't know if that is true with the latest S&D version.

I don't know who the on-demand question is directed, but a scanner can be either on-access (resident) and when a file is accessed the scanner automatically scans that file first (depending on your settings and the file type). An on-demand scan is one that the user initiates, e.g. if you want avast to scan your hard disks, you use the Simple User Interface to start (demand) the scan.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2008, 02:26:50 AM »
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When I had Spybot S&D installed (the old version) it detected I had spywareblaster installed and basically said that was better for immunisation. I don't know if that is true with the latest S&D version.
Spybot "said" to you this? :o. Probably in this old version inmunisation wasnt available yet so many people install spywareblater, but I can tell you that now is available, check spybot web.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2008, 03:23:46 AM »
Spybot "said" to you this? :o. Probably in this old version inmunisation wasnt available yet so many people install spywareblater, but I can tell you that now is available, check spybot web.
You can use both immunization features or even use AdvancedWindowsCare one.
Three won't conflict, they will overwrite the protection in the same place, afik.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2008, 04:51:15 AM »
I search Advanced Windows care and find this screenshot:

My pc is two years old so i don't think that has a hardware problem. Besides I dont know how a system can have errors or conflicts ???. Ive heard that Linux have less errors, is it true? But this program don't detect spyware? Is a system optimizer? I use CCleaner for that.

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