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Offline alanrf

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2008, 05:54:09 AM »
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he has helped users that must be without number by now ...

Since you are quoting me I shall answer you.

What it means is very simply this ... Tech, out of generosity and willingness to contribute to the avast community, has given so much of time and effort to answer those who just scan this forum and also to those who post here that the numbers of those helped must now be beyond computation.  I may go a little overboard in that estimation but when it also covers those who wish to also divulge the difficulties of their daily lives in this forum too ... and yet Tech still gives the same care and attention to the answers ... I think I must submit the name of Tech to Rome for beatification.

Just be glad that Tech is here ... and that Tech cares.       
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2008, 06:34:01 AM »
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I don't agree, an infection never is selfinlicted, you never want to get infected.
Sorry, strongly disagree. As an analogy, having unprotected sex with a stranger might be more enjoyable.Less fuss. But if you get an infection from it, who's responsible? The other person? Maybe. You? Definitely.
Same with windows based systems, although I think that computer vendors (sellers) could be a little more proactive at providing "safe-surfing tips".
Anyway, we all (mostly) know that malware is around, and some of us have an awareness of some of the ways it can get in.
I read a lot of help forums. Logs are often posted. In a fair majority of cases, malware entered the computer because of a deliberate action on the part of the user. (Drive-by downloads were also pretty common, and often associated with out of date software.Which is  also the responsibility of the user.)
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Spybot "said" to you this? Probably in this old version inmunisation wasnt available yet so many people install spywareblater, but I can tell you that now is available, check spybot web
Spybot has had the "immunize" function since version 1.3, and maybe before that. Say, 4 years plus.
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b/c, DDA, bypass..What means all that?
b/c = because.  DDA = Direct disk access. Bypass = (Simply) Can see more stuff. Doesn't need Windows to approve/view things.
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Besides I dont know how a system can have errors or conflicts. Ive heard that Linux have less errors, is it true? But this program don't detect spyware? Is a system optimizer? I use CCleaner for that
Anyone who has used Windows for a time knows that sometimes, errors or conflicts can happen. I've tried out a few programs that have damaged the operating system, made something not work correctly. Often, when Windows gets itself confused, a reboot fixes it.
Linux does have a reputation for being robust, and not prone to malware. Never tried it, though, except at work.
I think Advanced Windows Care comes with Windows Defender, which claims to detect and remove spyware etc.
CCleaner is a cleaner, not really an optimizer, although that may appear to be the result.
An optimizer would make changes to certain system settings to make the PC work at peak performance, or for a particular type of task.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2008, 08:16:21 AM »
to alan
I understand now, and I don't want to divulgue my difficulties, books are divulgued,not difficulties.
In the other post (have you readed?)I was saturated of all, not only I couldn't disinfect my computer, but really  bad things happened to me and I exploded and wrote here. For things like this people do extreme things like escape or suicide, cause a lot of things (not only one) get worse and few or anyone cares (like you).  :( But fortunately Davidr understand me and support me. Days after some things in my life get better and I feel happy and write em cause david said me that he hoped my life get better so Ithink that he glad of it. Then Tech didn't say anything of that and replied me,so i understand why you say tech cares. Yes, Im glad that still are there sensitive persons in the world and related to computers, I was thinking that most are so insensitive and cold like you. You dont answer to any doubt I have (except of this short explanation) and If you think that is less important to give personal support (only in a few lines that can lighten the mood) than computing support and dont understan that both supports can be given exceptionally in the same place, then your human value is equal to the computer you use: ZERO.

to tarq:
again you are wrong,whrn you are infected by a sex disease the infection isn't selfinflicted, you don't infect yourself! Let's speak well. The infection, computational, sexual or viral always is from another. Thats what I want to say and of course that we are responsible that the webs we visit but,as analogy, if you want to go to a cat house you won't  go only for is it dangerous and can get any sexual disease, you will take a condom to prevent it and thats it.  :P I dont know whats Drive-by downloads.
Im informed of Linux and this better programmed than windows cause it don't have fragmentation so it doesnt need aany system optimezer, is an OS optimized  :). But Advanced Windows Care is from IObit, not Microsoft! How can com with winbugs defender?
I downloaded CCleaner from optimizer section of softonic and when you clean temporaly things and registry you optimize the system, so I was thinking that was an optimizer. Thanks for explanation, then what are that changes to certain system settings that optimizers do? Just for curiosity... ;)

thanks all guys (except alan ) Im learning a lot!

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2008, 08:31:15 AM »
Go to a "cat house" (as you put it), wear a condom, it's still no guarantee.
And it's the same with downloading anything from the internet, even with the recommended security software. Even the best AV can occasionally let something through.
So it's still your own responsibility. Don't get me wrong, if you want to look at porn, download warez, whatever, I don't care. But to do those sorts of things and then moan about the antivirus not protecting you is a bit rich.
Likewise, clicking on attachments in an IM program (a common source of infection.)

Of course AWC is from Iobit. Sorry. And it does have an antispyware capability. I don't know how good that is, though. Nor have I used the optimizer function, as I've already applied a couple of tweaks here and there in my system, and don't want them altered.
From what I've seen, optimizers typically alter the internet settings to speed the connection a little. TCP windows, etc. Don't really know much about it. The only time I saw one make much difference was with a really old system, on dial up.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2008, 11:06:54 AM »
Good morning.

As already said, by "on demand" I mean not permanently running, but run as a stand-alone scan to use when I think of it.

I'm a bit old-fashioned, and very much a creature of habit and comfort:
- I don't like "suites"; I prefer my antivirus, antispyware, firewall... etc, to be discreet entities, separate and independent of each other.
- I prefer programs to tell me what they have found and to let me to decide what should be done. I do not want a program to do what IT thinks I should have it do.
(Not easily done with many programs - with Avast, I have a log saved to the desktop so that I can at least see what it has found and done during its 6.00am scan, and repair any damage - so far, all is well.


In my opinion:

- Spybot S&D and AdaAware are fairly useless in the modern environment, and certainly not good enough to be relied on as main anti-malware programs.
(The "Teatimer" facility in SpyBot S&D should, be avoided like the pox: unless you know what you are doing, you can do serious damage to the registry.)

- SuperAntispyware Free is not brilliant, but better than both SpyBot and AdaWare combined.

- The best free antimalware programs I have found, for detection rates and ease of use, are A-Squared and Windows Defender.

- AVG-AntiSpyware (ex Ewido 4) is pretty good but seems to be no longer available since it was rolled up into the AVG8 suite, thus removing one of the better free programs available!

- BitDefender is also very good, but I simply don't like it (and it seems to cause instability in my machine).
 
(NOTE: No single program will detect everything.  But some detect more than others. For example: as part of monitoring and testing my "defenses", I have a keylogger installed on my PC.  It records everything I do on my PC - every program I run, every website, every keystroke, every mouse action...  If activated, it will silently send all that information to an email address of my choosing at regular times.  I regard that as the most frightening device on my machine, yet the only programs I have tried that alert me of its presence are A-Squared, AVG-AntiSpyware and Windows Defender.)

Windows firewall is good as far as it goes, but:

- it only stops stuff getting in; it allows outgoing traffic (and interaction between programs) without question ;

- it freely allows other programs to turn it off without warning (eg, ZoneAlarm)!

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2008, 01:54:27 PM »
- The best free antimalware programs I have found, for detection rates and ease of use, are A-Squared and Windows Defender.
a-squared has an aggressive false positive detection and a very poor restoration eficacy (specially on Registry restoration). Well, my personal opinion and experience.
Windows Defender has a poor detection rate (imho).

- AVG-AntiSpyware (ex Ewido 4) is pretty good but seems to be no longer available since it was rolled up into the AVG8 suite, thus removing one of the better free programs available!
Detection rate wasn't among the best ones.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2008, 02:32:02 PM »
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When I had Spybot S&D installed (the old version) it detected I had spywareblaster installed and basically said that was better for immunisation. I don't know if that is true with the latest S&D version.
Spybot "said" to you this? :o. Probably in this old version inmunisation wasnt available yet so many people install spywareblater, but I can tell you that now is available, check spybot web.

Yes it did say that, I wouldn't have said it otherwise.

At that time S&D did have an immunisation function, again I wouldn't have posted it if it didn't have an immunisation function. I wouldn't have been able to select Immunisation to be informed by Spybot S&D that I have spywareblaster installed which at that time had better immunisation.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2008, 05:45:05 PM »
"spywareblaster...  which at that time had better immunisation"

Does that mean you now consider the opposite to be the case?

(Certainly, SBotS&D no longer advises that S'Blaster gives better immunisation, but information on this is a bit thin...)

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2008, 07:13:33 PM »
No, it means exactly what it said "at that time," I no longer have S&D installed, so I can't make any comparison. In any case it wasn't I who made the comparison but S&D when you clicked the Immunise function, I never compared anything.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2008, 11:19:09 PM »
(I received an email on 2-5-8 at 5:54 saying that Alan has replied me but I don't see the answer, why dissappeard?) ???
 
Hey boys ! still alive!  ;D
Its difficult to respond 4 or more forims and surfing at the same time !
Lately other things has damaged in my house besides of my pc: bath, switch, boiler and the motorbike (again). I dont know if my electric installation has damaged or someone simply cursed me. Is for all of this that takes me so much time to reply here (and for Im spanish! :-\) im always repairing things!

Well, ill start with tarq: you are right, wear a condom its not guarantee, you can get pubic lice. But lets stop talk about it, it starts itching me all..
Fortunately I dont use IM and I use yahoo web and the avirus embedded to download the email attachments. I dont like tweaking the PC, can be broken down? Optimizers can overclock CPU? as well as internet what parts of PC optimizers improve?

to spyderspyder: is not fair that you talk like this of Spybot. It warned me of the override of firewall windows (I don't know why Windows don't warned me). I don't touch never the registry feature and never damaged the registry. BTW spybot warns about it. In fact when starts program under the Spybot logo appear: use it under your responsability (in spanish). I use CCleaner for cleaning registry and never dameged anything.
How can you say that Superantispyware free is better than Spybot if dont have           
Real-Time Blockinghttp://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html   
A-Squared free neither prevent against malware, only scans and remove it: http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/compare/
WHATS THE USE OF AN ANTISPYWARE IF DONT PREVENT THAT SPYWARE ENTER IN OUR COMPUTER?
Windows Defender is available to customers running genuine Microsoft Windows and needs a validation. I dont have an origianl windows so i cant download it. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=435BFCE7-DA2B-4A6A-AFA4-F7F14E605A0D&displaylang=en
So seems that my only choice is use Spybot?
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Windows firewall is good as far as it goes, but:

- it only stops stuff getting in; it allows outgoing traffic (and interaction between programs) without question ;
But the outgoimg traffic isnt necesary to communicate with exterior? ??? If stops enter stuff cant interact with programs?
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- it freely allows other programs to turn it off without warning (eg, ZoneAlarm)!
YEAH programs or virus,cause in othe pc the firewall XP was disabled for someone or soemthing. Iaws 1 week analyzing with avast and adawre (sucks) and anything was founded. Then I downl istall and run Spybot and first detect: antiviruas and firewall override so I thank for it.
Im thinking in the f***ing ballons of windows notifications. Always annoying every x minutes saying (like now) espacio de disco insuficiente! free space insufficient? and DONT ALERT ME OF SO MUCH IMPORTANT THING LIKE THE OVERRIDE OF HIS DAMNED FIREWALL!!! Whats de use of the notif ballons then???  ??? >:(

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a-squared has an aggressive false positive detection and a very poor restoration eficacy (specially on Registry restoration). Well, my personal opinion and experience.
Windows Defender has a poor detection rate (imho).
its like the antivirus spanish panda. Some aVirus bosats of detect more vrus than others and most of them are false positives. Do you know/used Panda?

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sorry but my english is very basic as you can see  ::) I dont understand that:
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I wouldn't have been able to select Immunisation to be informed by Spybot S&D that I have spywareblaster installed which at that time had better immunisation.
So spybot is aying that spywareblaster is better for inmjnisation? Let's see, when we click inmunisation activates Tea Timer, the resident module ? (probably I ve to post this on spybot forum). BTW you say this on Spybot forum? Cuse avast now have antispy can I deactivate Real Time protection on Spybot?

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2008, 11:47:00 PM »
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Well, ill start with tarq: you are right, wear a condom its not guarantee, you can get pubic lice. But lets stop talk about it, it starts itching me all..
Fortunately I dont use IM and I use yahoo web and the avirus embedded to download the email attachments. I dont like tweaking the PC, can be broken down? Optimizers can overclock CPU? as well as internet what parts of PC optimizers improve?
You started the analogy  ;D
Optimizers will not overclock the CPU. You have to do that yourself, I think at a BIOS or even hardware level. I think it's done by fooling the CPU into thinking you use a lower voltage than you really do.
Optimizers will look at your configuration and make some changes. Did you try the "repair" option in AWC? (Re the screenshot you posted.) Try it. Have it set a restore point first, so you can undo any changes.

Re Spybot and immunize...slecting "immunize" does not turn the Teatimer on. That is a separate switch.
I recall a Spybot "firewall override" detection in the past, long ago, and it was nothing to worry about, if I remember correctly. You should search the Spybot forum or ask about that there.

It all sounds very complicated, but it isn't, really. Just pick a good AV (Avast), a good two way firewall, a demand AS scanner (SAS), and not too many immunizations. Just use one program to immunize. And maybe a hosts file. (Google for it. I use the MVPS hosts file.Good information and regularly updated.) Keep it simple, first, then add layers, if you find you need them. It is actually more dangerous to have a lot of different security applications that you don't understand, than 3 that you do.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2008, 11:47:37 PM »
Hey, Gero.

"sorry but my english is very basic as you can see...  omg! 3 days to write this! "

It is many, many times better than my Spanish (and probably of most people in my country, where we are very bad for not learning other languages).  So for me you have no need to apologise.

You (and other non English-speaking members) should be applauded for the time and effort so many of you obviously make to contribute.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2008, 12:17:30 AM »
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sorry but my english is very basic as you can see  ::) I dont understand that:

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I wouldn't have been able to select Immunisation to be informed by Spybot S&D that I have spywareblaster installed which at that time had better immunisation.
So spybot is aying that spywareblaster is better for inmjnisation? Let's see, when we click inmunisation activates Tea Timer, the resident module ? (probably I ve to post this on spybot forum). BTW you say this on Spybot forum? Cuse avast now have antispy can I deactivate Real Time protection on Spybot?
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My experience of Spybot is from the previous version, so I can't say what it is like now. With that older version if you selected immunization and Spybot detected you had SpywareBlaster installed it made reference to use spywareblaster's immunization. I don't know what the current version does if it detects you have spywareblaster.

I don't think you need disable S&D's TeaTimer because of avast's anti-spyware function. The only reason I would disable it is if there were known problems between the two programs and that doesn't appear to be the case.
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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2008, 12:44:44 AM »
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davidr
sorry but my english is very basic as you can see  ::) I dont understand that:

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I wouldn't have been able to select Immunisation to be informed by Spybot S&D that I have spywareblaster installed which at that time had better immunisation.
So spybot is aying that spywareblaster is better for inmjnisation? Let's see, when we click inmunisation activates Tea Timer, the resident module ? (probably I ve to post this on spybot forum). BTW you say this on Spybot forum? Cuse avast now have antispy can I deactivate Real Time protection on Spybot?
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My experience of Spybot is from the previous version, so I can't say what it is like now. With that older version if you selected immunization and Spybot detected you had SpywareBlaster installed it made reference to use spywareblaster's immunization. I don't know what the current version does if it detects you have spywareblaster.

I don't think you need disable S&D's TeaTimer because of avast's anti-spyware function. The only reason I would disable it is if there were known problems between the two programs and that doesn't appear to be the case.

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Re: I don't see any antispyware in Avast 4.8
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2008, 02:04:37 AM »
whoa more than 1000 views!! im feel imporatnt!

The screenshot I post was of a forum,not mine. I dint install AWC yet. When I click on immunize spybot Firefox , Seamonkey (suite) and IE cookies appear but I dont know what it do. Block em?
hosts file? windows dont have one? I read this wiki but i d know what exactly to do with this file.. :-\. What you do ? An d what is MVPS ? I search in googl but only found Most Valuable Person...mmm Tech?  ;D
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Im messed up.. ???

Whats your country spyderspyder? I dont deserve to be applauded cause i only contributed one time with a post other than mine. Im making this effort cause my pc is infected (1month-see other post) and I want to desinfect it and in this post i want to know things about avast (spy).  ::) Thanks for it but I consider that those who help and support people with trouble (like Tech and all of you  ;)) should be applauded as you really contributes (is correct?) to this forum. Makin tutorials and FAQs too. At least this forim is not czech or german! :P
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Maybeok can you tell me where the hell is spoken of that threatfire here? Have you used spybot? Is not bad use 2 avs at same time? I dont underatand what appears in the web you post: Automatic updates (when opted in to ThreatFire Community) http://www.threatfire.com/download