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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 02:21:07 AM »
I got my Fantom 500 GB firewire/USB hard drive today.  I assume since it is FAT32 ready, that it will install flawlessly on my Vista home premium machine. Am I correct?  Also does switching from XP to Vista require any adjustments?  Can I have it attached to both a firewire port and a USB port at the same time, so I can use it on both machines simultaneously?

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2008, 02:24:39 AM »
BTW, since I added this twice by mistake, can I delete it from the topic? :o :o
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2008, 08:13:09 AM »
I got my Fantom 500 GB firewire/USB hard drive today.  I assume since it is FAT32 ready, that it will install flawlessly on my Vista home premium machine. Am I correct?  Also does switching from XP to Vista require any adjustments?  Can I have it attached to both a firewire port and a USB port at the same time, so I can use it on both machines simultaneously?

Hi Roro...

It should work flawlessly with both of your systems, it may not even require the driver CD. :) However, I don't think you will be able to use it on both systems simultaneously.

Best Regards...

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2008, 08:32:50 AM »
I'm using PING for ages. With some trimming you can burn Windows XP image on single 700MB CD. Haven't tried Vista since i'm not sure it would fit on single layer DVD. Maybe dual layer one. But i just have it stored on my second drive. Restoration takes 5 minutes lol...
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2008, 03:34:31 PM »
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Your connection options are one or the other. Not Both
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2008, 12:38:40 PM »
Thank you Bob and Ardvark,
I just connected the hard drive up and am copying files.  I couldn't use the Firewire connection as I have 4 pin Firewire on my PC and the connecting cable is 6 pin.  I have to get an 6 pin to 4 pin adapter, and when I do I will try the Firewire as it is supposed to be much faster.  Right now my 7 Gig is taking 15 minutes to copy.  Everything went well so far.  Thanks for the information.  I will be sure to disconnect from one machine and then reconnect on another.

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2008, 03:39:51 PM »
Firewire like USB (1 and 2) has two incarnations, firewire 400 and 800 I believe.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire for full info.
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Comparison to USB

Although high-speed USB 2.0 nominally runs at a higher signaling rate (480 Mbit/s) than FireWire 400, typical USB PC-hosts rarely exceed sustained transfers of 280 Mbit/s, with 240 Mbit/s being more typical. This is likely due to USB's reliance on the host-processor to manage low-level USB protocol, whereas FireWire delegates the same tasks to the interface hardware. For example, the FireWire host interface supports memory-mapped devices, which allows high-level protocols to run without loading the host CPU with interrupts and buffer-copy operations.[18]

FireWire 800 is substantially faster than Hi-Speed USB.[19]

So depending on the firewire on your system, if it is 400 then it wouldn't be that much difference from USB 2.

Looks like this is your version of firewire:
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Enhancements (IEEE 1394a-2000)

An amendment IEEE 1394a was released in 2000, which both clarified and enhanced the original specification. It added in support for asynchronous streaming, quicker bus reconfiguration, packet concatenation, and a power saving suspend mode.

1394a also standardized the 4-pin connector already widely in use. The 4-pin version is used on many consumer devices such as camcorders, laptops, and other small FireWire devices. Though fully data compatible with 6-pin interfaces, it lacks power connectors.]Enhancements (IEEE 1394a-2000)

An amendment IEEE 1394a was released in 2000, which both clarified and enhanced the original specification. It added in support for asynchronous streaming, quicker bus reconfiguration, packet concatenation, and a power saving suspend mode.

1394a also standardized the 4-pin connector already widely in use. The 4-pin version is used on many consumer devices such as camcorders, laptops, and other small FireWire devices. Though fully data compatible with 6-pin interfaces, it lacks power connectors.
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2008, 04:16:56 PM »
Even if its Firewire 400, it will still outpace USB.  Firewire keeps a constant transfer rate very near its 400Mbps max, where USB fluctuates and does not usually transfer anywhere near its max speed (as Davids quote said USB rarely transfers above 280Mbit).

Also, I Windows Vista has better support for firewire devices than Windows XP, something to keep in mind.
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2008, 10:23:07 PM »
Hi Roro...

You're welcome, glad to help! :)

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2008, 11:19:40 PM »
Hi roro,
Hope you get a lot of good use out of your new toy.  :)
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2008, 01:12:23 AM »
THANKS AGAIN.
I did back up 15 gigs of files using USB 2.0 today.  When I get my 6 to 4 pin Firewire adapter, I will be able to compare speeds. It will be interesting to see what difference it makes.  It is nice to have everything on one HD.

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2008, 09:44:52 PM »
http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

Here is a FREE disc imaging program that I've been using for a few weeks now. Very nice gui and fast (at least for me). Works well on vista 64 bit ,paragon let me down on this one  . The free version does require you to use the boot cd to restore an image. Can backup to external drives or dvd so really there's no reason for people not to have a full backup solution in place. :)  Hope this helps,tim

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2008, 11:14:25 PM »
http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

Here is a FREE disc imaging program that I've been using for a few weeks now. Very nice gui and fast (at least for me). Works well on vista 64 bit ,paragon let me down on this one  . The free version does require you to use the boot cd to restore an image. Can backup to external drives or dvd so really there's no reason for people not to have a full backup solution in place. :)  Hope this helps,tim
Did you test it? Does it really works on a running Windows, i.e., backup the whole partition while it's in use? Wow! Seems promising...
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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2008, 09:40:31 AM »
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Did you test it? Does it really works on a running Windows, i.e., backup the whole partition while it's in use? Wow! Seems promising...

Hi,yes it does. I may be wrong but I believe most imaging programs will create an image while running windows. For sure paragon and acronisTI do.

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Re: Never Re-install Windows Again Part 1 to 3
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2008, 04:10:25 AM »
I have had good luck with both the USB connection and the Firewire 400 connection.  I realized that I already had a 6 to 4 pin adapter cable that I had used for a camcorder.  The Firewire is faster.  After backing up both my laptop and desktop computers, I still have 400 gigs left. Buy.com was selling it for $109.99 with free shipping last time I looked if anyone is interested.
http://www.buy.com/cat/firewire_hard_drives/450.html?dcaid=17873

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