Microsoft is at a disadvantage in updating Internet Explorer.

[alanrf]

But let us not forget that these products fund the entire security (and malware) business

I used to work for a very large bank which uses other operating systems - from my experiences I know that your statement is not entirely applicable.

[TheSpirit]

I used to work for a very large bank which uses other operating systems - from my experiences I know that your statement is not entirely applicable.

True. We should allow other vendors to join the club. 

[alanrf]

By way of update to an earlier post:

Firefox waits until the browser has been up and running for a period of time (I would have to go an find the exact period) before it checks for updates.

It is 10 minutes.

[DavidR]

At least when Microsoft chooses to push an emergency fix then it takes advantage of the fact that (in theory) your system will check for automatic updates on every system startup.  However (as DavidR noted in another thread) their method of server congestion management may mean that you do not get the update immediately.

Well it still hasn't come down the pipe, despite the WU icon popping up twice today and still reporting Downloading 0% this for me is a regular issue taking days to get an auto update to finally complete.

I gave up and downloaded it manually from download.microsoft.com, it took 8 minutes on my poor download connection. Where the au.download.microsoftupdate.com has taken two days of multiple attempts to get nowhere.

[bob3160]

Integrating explorer deeply in the O.S. gives you faster, immediately available functionality and makes your IE browser start faster as a third party browser can (part of it starts at starting your OS), or you have to slim down the browser unto quite an extent (as they did with GoogleChrome) or use a shell browser, but it is/was not one of the brightest ideas security-wise,

polonus

Windows and IE were not designed with security or performance in mind. Only the number of features matters here.

But let us not forget that these products fund the entire security (and malware) business. If Windows were a real OS and IE a real browser, all these people would go out of business, and this forum would not exist.  

I'd consider this post slightly biased 

[alanrf]

Before you posted Bob ... TheSpirit had implicitly accepted this already in reply #16 in this thread.   

[TheSpirit]

I'd consider this post slightly biased 

Sharp observation, Bob. I have an opinion.

I was waiting for one of you usual meaningless, balancing posts. There is one in every thread, I believe.

[Marc57]

I'd consider this post slightly biased 

Sharp observation, Bob. I have an opinion.

I was waiting for one of you usual meaningless, balancing posts. There is one in every thread, I believe.

You know, I've tried to be a voice for peace on these forums but, I think I've had enough. I'm tired of n00bs like you coming to these forums spewing your fanboy crap and talking trash about someone like bob. He's done more here to help others than you ever will.

These forums are here to help people. If you can't do that then leave.

[Hard_ROCKER]

Calm down people, this will get us nowhere. Let's try to stick with the topic and avoid personal attacks.

[Lisandro]

Merry Christmas for you   

[drhayden1]

Calm down people, this will get us nowhere. Let's try to stick with the topic and avoid personal attacks

ageed....no more needs to be said

He's done more here to help others than you ever will.

has helped me and a lots of people on this forum

[Marc57]

Merry Christmas for you   

And to you Tech.