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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #165 on: March 01, 2009, 08:16:43 PM »
Current CIS fancies itself a major Suite with an AV, spends most of its effort there, and CEO says it will be one of the best by October.  The OP questions and most of the subsequent posts have been about the AVs-an area where the use of Avast! vs Comodo gets a lot of attention.  Probably the title should say that?  Current CAVS has lots of False Positives, unknown detection, other issues.  Posts on Comodo site ask things like "how can Avast! be any good when CAVS found 11 Trojans that Avast! missed?"-many must not read the FP threads.   Beta testing comments have to do with the current release being the third final release with no RC, no beta testing between the three final releases.  Mostly CIS AV related.  And most comments were not incorporated yet anyway.  Comments there say things like "this might finally be up to an RC".  Firewall/HIPS broke some things in the upgrades, but primarily for x64 upgrade users, and should remain a pretty stable product-rated ~ 4/5 by the Comodo users, PC Magazine, others.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #166 on: March 01, 2009, 08:40:01 PM »
Current CIS fancies itself a major Suite with an AV, spends most of its effort there, and CEO says it will be one of the best by October.  The OP questions and most of the subsequent posts have been about the AVs-an area where the use of Avast! vs Comodo gets a lot of attention.  Probably the title should say that?  Current CAVS has lots of False Positives, unknown detection, other issues.  Posts on Comodo site ask things like "how can Avast! be any good when CAVS found 11 Trojans that Avast! missed?"-many must not read the FP threads.   Beta testing comments have to do with the current release being the third final release with no RC, no beta testing between the three final releases.  Mostly CIS AV related.  And most comments were not incorporated yet anyway.  Comments there say things like "this might finally be up to an RC".  Firewall/HIPS broke some things in the upgrades, but primarily for x64 users, and should remain a pretty stable product-rated ~ 4/5 by the Comodo users, PC Magazine, others.

I've been away from Comodo forums for a while, posting there again only recently. So I haven't heard yet of these considerations they have now about their AV. I already conflicted once with Melih about that stupid AV lite scan after setup of CFP 3.1, bloody useless ridiculous. As to current CAVS false positives, I'm not surprised. Previous betas (beta phase took bloody ages there  ;D) were so unstable and featureless...OK, to make it simple I've never been waiting for CAV, and it's integration in CIS (so formerly CFP with "just" Firewall/HIPS) never interested me, I didn't even bother to ever install the AV part of CIS; it's only recently I temporarily deactivated Avast, added Comodo AV to CIS, rebooted, took a very quick look, got rid of it as fast as I could and reactivated Avast  ;D. BTW I'm on Win7/64, so I didn't upgrade from a former version, and np whatsoever so far. I've in fact distanced myself from Comodo and their forum when they started the "theatcast" BS and other things I didn't find OK, but I still like "some" of their products.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #167 on: March 01, 2009, 08:46:45 PM »
Nor on my PC when I had Comodo 2.4 and early 3.1 while using Avast.

to make things clear, you've not tried to run Avast and CAV (from CIS) at the same time right?

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #168 on: March 01, 2009, 10:07:54 PM »
Nah as the early 3s in the firewall line had no AV (I had a XP computer and that was what I was running it on) I guess you could disable CIS "real time" scanner and use avast, I know of (well not personally) a few Comodo forum members that have done just that without problems.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #169 on: March 01, 2009, 10:09:50 PM »
^ I would of done the same thing myself but the firewall was blocking something in avast which meant I had no blue ball the i or a ball so no nice spinning a ball.  :'(
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #170 on: March 01, 2009, 10:14:03 PM »
The OP questions and most of the subsequent posts have been about the AVs-an area where the use of Avast! vs Comodo gets a lot of attention.  Probably the title should say that?

That would be a long title: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security) Just the AV part!

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #171 on: March 01, 2009, 10:17:30 PM »
Version 3.0.25.378 : 30th May, 2008 every build after that had the AV integrated in the firewall.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #172 on: March 01, 2009, 11:05:53 PM »
The only 'problem' that I've had with Comodo and Avast was just letting Avast have the necessary permissions to operate - but then, I've had problems with Avast stopping a couple of things from loading and took some time to find out how to do the exclusions.

I even ran CAV and Avast both real time for a while, just out of curiosity  :o , and had no trouble apart from the FPs from CAV.

AVs take a long time to get up to speed and, apart from CAV needing about a year to do that, I like Avast's approach and will stay with it, whilst appreciating Comodo's FW and D+.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #173 on: March 02, 2009, 12:08:23 AM »
Giraffe, CAV will detect nothing that avast is not prepared to... you'll have conflict sooner or later, and problems.
The antivirus part of Comodo is, basically, very weak.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #174 on: March 02, 2009, 12:26:01 AM »
While I try not judge others by my own limitations,it seems that
dramatic improvement of the anti-virus portion of CIS is the only
thing that will really improve "usability" for the average user.
As long as the heart of the operation is a classic HIPS,it is going to
be a techie tool.
Yes anyone can "USE" CIS.
I have a single action Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag.
I can "USE" it.
I can load,aim it,fire it.
That does not mean I am not better off with my Browning Hi-Power 9mm
for defence.
CIS may be a powerfull tool,but for now it is a specialists tool.
(It will remain so as long as HIPS is the heart.)
The queston with CIS is not can it protect your machine,it can't
anymore than Hi-Jack This can.
The queston is can you? or can I?
Because it comes down to pop ups.
Yes,there are detection pop-ups with Avast,but they are clear.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #175 on: March 02, 2009, 01:35:38 PM »
normishmael, it figures that this would devolve into a Right to bear arms discussion.

I think I will set my signature to:

I support the right to arm bears.

Nothing can persuade me to install anything from Comodo.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #176 on: March 02, 2009, 06:53:22 PM »
Giraffe, CAV will detect nothing that avast is not prepared to... you'll have conflict sooner or later, and problems.
The antivirus part of Comodo is, basically, very weak.

I realise that, Tech, but just wanted to try it out of morbid curiosity.

I also know that CAV is weak, which is why, even in Comodo's forums, I say that I prefer Avast and will stay with it for at least a year. If Avast 5 is as good as some of the rumours here suggest that it will be, then I'll use Avast permanently.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #177 on: March 02, 2009, 07:28:50 PM »
normishmael, it figures that this would devolve into a Right to bear arms discussion.

Well,Yo Kenny, my repertoire of conversation is pretty limited.Its guns or,Shemp-vs-Curly,or  Atkinson-vs-Cleese.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #178 on: March 02, 2009, 08:14:59 PM »
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Well,Yo Kenny, my repertoire of conversation is pretty limited.Its guns or,Shemp-vs-Curly,or  Atkinson-vs-Cleese.

I'll take those over redneck, gun-totin hillbillys any day.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #179 on: March 02, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »
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Well,Yo Kenny, my repertoire of conversation is pretty limited.Its guns or,Shemp-vs-Curly,or  Atkinson-vs-Cleese.

I'll take those over redneck, gun-totin hillbillys any day.
http://www.jefffoxworthy.com/comedy/jod/index.shtml

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