Sorry, yes I am admin. I found a utility to get the old McAfee off and I found the major source of the problem - the machine used to be part of a domain and had been disconnected too long for cached credentials to work for some operations. It caused IE and some other windows apps to hang, even though I was logging in to the machine. Once I changed it to say it was no longer part of a domain, things started working again. But when I tried to install Avast again, it says something needs a reboot and reboots the computer whether I answer Yes or No to the dialog asking if I want to reboot. I gave up and installed AVG. I like Avast better for truly trashed machines (I put it on a couple my kids had surfed on and it cleaned them up nicely) but once I figured out that box actually had a configuration problem and not a virus (I have scanned with a few different utilities) I decided that AVG would be fine.