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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2009, 03:16:27 AM »
Maybe they extend the support (virus database update).

That would be nice, and that is all we would want anyway, the virus database update only.

Agreed NightShade, Will still use AVast as long as I can. You Should have some av protection. It is true that in time, "All good things do come to an end", such as 98/ME, in the name of progress ??. ::).

Perhaps WinClam will still be around but not real time unfortunately.

I see no problems not having real time if we are careful, and I don't have a real time adware program either, I run my SAS every so often.
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2009, 03:19:03 AM »
i didn't say now, i said sooner or later...  :)


Eh, I beg to differ, check your writing here.  >:(

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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2009, 03:23:33 AM »
Probably the time has come now... :-\

I thought you said that you didn't say NOW?
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2009, 07:44:00 AM »
Probably the time has come now... :-\

I thought you said that you didn't say NOW?

You shouldn't overlook the "probably"... (in the meaning of possibly...)
But you are right - in my deepest inside i really want to leave the old behind and start something new  :)
Sorry if this sounds hurting in any way - this for sure wasn't my intention. :-[

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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2009, 08:25:23 AM »
I wonder who is still insisting on Win98. It's so ancient and crappy i'd rather use Win2000 at slower speed than have to bare a shatering stability of Win98.
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2009, 10:52:40 AM »
I bet Win9x and Me simply aren't vulnerable to the kinds of 'stealth' malware I've run into on XP and Vista- the type that can even protect itself in Safe Mode and will totally bugger up your system if you try to 'short circuit' the way they alter the Registry and system files during a normal shutdown so they're protected from tricks like booting with ERD Commander or MS DaRT CDs... that's yanking the power cord then booting to Safe Mode where the malware files aren't hidden away and the Registry keys that launch the stealthing during boot can be found and deleted.

It's a clever nasty that can not only hide in Safe Mode but also defend itself against plug pulling AND survive a Repair Install of XP AND auto-deletes all major antivirus and anti-malware programs. I got one of those once, it sneaked past AVG 7, I had to connect the drive to another PC and wait through three days of rapid fire updates (at least 12 in three days) from AVG and many full scans to get rid of it. Couldn't even track it all down and kill it booting from ERD Commander 2005. I noticed the infection when the AVG and Spybot S&D tray icons vanished suddenly.

AFAIK, what runs in Safe Mode in Win 9x and Me is completely hard coded and there is no way to alter it, (which was quite annoying to not be able to have CD-ROM access in Win 95 Safe Mode) which would always leave stealth malware vulnerable, though I have run into some 9x boxes that had problems preventing them booting to Safe Mode- but most of them couldn't boot normally either.

Could be that ye olde Windows will get more secure against malware as time passes because the people who write malware can't do all the nasty tricks with it they can with 2000 and newer.

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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2009, 02:01:18 PM »
You see, there are some good points for having 98  :)

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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2009, 02:03:11 PM »
I wonder who is still insisting on Win98. It's so ancient and crappy i'd rather use Win2000 at slower speed than have to bare a shatering stability of Win98.

Users that have had no problems I would imagine!

As for the stability of 98, I don't know where you get that idea from.  ???
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2009, 02:08:00 PM »
Let me just say this, I use 98 because it hasn't really caused me any worries etc, and usually when you get a new computer which I will do soon, well it's like starting all over again, and the problems I have read about with Vista isn't worth thinking about.

I have been told that I can get a new custom built PC with XP installed, then after a couple of years hopefully Windows 7 will have had it's bugs fixed, does that sound feasible?  ???
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2009, 02:16:44 PM »
Let me just say this, I use 98 because it hasn't really caused me any worries etc, and usually when you get a new computer which I will do soon, well it's like starting all over again, and the problems I have read about with Vista isn't worth thinking about.

I have been told that I can get a new custom built PC with XP installed, then after a couple of years hopefully Windows 7 will have had it's bugs fixed, does that sound feasible?  ???
If I were you, I'll learn directly from Windows Vista. Nowadays computer can run Windows Vista without problems... you're reading anti-Vista reviews or fanatic-XP lovers writings.
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #55 on: April 20, 2009, 02:52:14 PM »
Let me just say this, I use 98 because it hasn't really caused me any worries etc, and usually when you get a new computer which I will do soon, well it's like starting all over again, and the problems I have read about with Vista isn't worth thinking about.

I have been told that I can get a new custom built PC with XP installed, then after a couple of years hopefully Windows 7 will have had it's bugs fixed, does that sound feasible?  ???
If I were you, I'll learn directly from Windows Vista. Nowadays computer can run Windows Vista without problems... you're reading anti-Vista reviews or fanatic-XP lovers writings.

How does Avast compare on Vista? what I mean is have there been many problems being reported?
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #56 on: April 20, 2009, 03:00:08 PM »
Hi nightshade and win98 users,

As a long-satisfied 98SE user, I have now have Xubuntu with dual boot.

I use wine, to the limited extent possible, to run some 98SE programs in Xubuntu.

Linux is more secure than any Windows program but I still have a firewall
for outgoing protection and the Linux debian version of Avast for on demand
scans. (Go to the bottom of this page and switch forums for info).

I am not aware of any plans to withdraw the Avast Debian Version. However,
currently the daily update comprises the full database of signatures;
so it is not incremental and not so good for dial-up users - but once loaded
scans are very fast.

Xubuntu can read FAT 32 files but 98 cannot (as can some windows versions)
read Linux files. It would be possible to share music, pdf and many file types.

I quote a specialist "Microsoft Valued Professional" that older Windows versions
such as 98SE are not more protected than more recent versions - in fact quite the
opposite was stated.

98 has got a reputation for instability but I find it to be excellent.

It takes me some three minutes to move from Xubuntu to W98SE and less than half
that to revert to Xubuntu.

I have 640MB RAM (565 MB available) and I have not yet used as much as 350 MB.
If any 98 user is very short on RAM puppy, damn small, or another version of Linux
might be appropriate.

Finally, you can run Ubuntu (from where I installed the Xubuntu desktop) from a CD.
It will be slower than a hard drive installation but at least it can be tried that way.

I now have the best of all worlds -  so good fortune to my "98" friends. Regards

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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2009, 03:09:39 PM »
Don't you have enough space to run Kubuntu (with KDE) into your computer?
I think it will be easier to adapt to, I mean, from an user coming form Windows 98, KDE is similar to Windows appearance.
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2009, 03:53:13 PM »
Hi Mike,
I'm afraid you are a bit too technical for me, lol  ;D
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Re: Avast 5 & 98
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2009, 04:09:37 PM »
I wonder who is still insisting on Win98. It's so ancient and crappy i'd rather use Win2000 at slower speed than have to bare a shatering stability of Win98.

Users that have had no problems I would imagine!

As for the stability of 98, I don't know where you get that idea from.  ???

I've been using Win98 and random lockups, crashes and stuff like that were nothing unusual. When i got Win2000, i was so thrilled by it i never returned to Win98 even though there were still driver problems at that time. Windows NT5 is like trilion of light years ahead of Win9x.
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