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email client avast scan
« on: March 15, 2009, 09:11:36 PM »
:'( So that I may understand something, in my own simple way ! It all depends on your ISP, rather Avast will scan your emails or not ??? I have both "Outlook Express", and now "Thunderbird". Both revert back to my ISP (ISP.COM), which use to support "Outlook Express", and they changed to Gmail, (need STunnel, Don't want). Forgive me if I seem to be asking the same questions, over and over. Need to understand ! Thanks

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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 09:46:17 PM »
No, that is just one factor.

Your ISP may insist of using SSL (secure encrypted) email in which case avast can't scan it and that doesn't matter what your email client is.

Your complication is using winME where the email client account settings have to be changed to use the avast localhost proxy, using the avast Mail Protection Wizard. Once changed they shouldn't revert back unless you change it back or you run the wizard again and remove the protection (from memory). I doubt you did either so they should stay the same unless you have even more security software that blocks changes.

I can't see how your ISP can change to Gmail ???
So you will have to explain that one to me.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 09:59:10 PM »
No, that is just one factor.

Your ISP may insist of using SSL (secure encrypted) email in which case avast can't scan it and that doesn't matter what your email client is.

Your complication is using winME where the email client account settings have to be changed to use the avast localhost proxy, using the avast Mail Protection Wizard. Once changed they shouldn't revert back unless you change it back or you run the wizard again and remove the protection (from memory). I doubt you did either so they should stay the same unless you have even more security software that blocks changes.

I can't see how your ISP can change to Gmail ???
So you will have to explain that one to me.
DavidR, They changed there home page, and email by saddling up with Google. At point every thing changed, Can't even log on to the old Home page. Can get on but takes forever and mimics "Google's Home Page". That's all I can tell YOU !Thanks for your answers. (PS Have ghanged nothing in "Wizard" I first set up !. can no longer send or receive mail with Outlook Express or Thunderbird.

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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 10:12:17 PM »
I would suggest that you just use web mail then if you don't want to use CTunnel so you can download the Gmail to OE or Thunderbird, so it can be scanned.

You can use your browser to access gmail in the same way as hotmail or yahoo web mail.

The ISP might well be redirecting what used to be the old home page to googles home page, but without more information that is speculation on my part.

One thing for sure if my ISP started messing about like this or it made my life harder they wouldn't be my ISP for much longer. I would be looking for an alternative and as soon as I found one I would try it and if satisfactory I would then vote with my wallet and bin them.

I get round problems like this by having my own domain name, and I pay for an email service for that domain name and I collect me email from their email servers and not my ISP. So I could change my ISP and not have to change my email addresses because they are independent of my ISP.

I can also log onto their webmail location and view my email using my browser if I happen to be away from home. Now this costs but it gives me much greater flexibility and independence from my ISP.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 10:42:37 PM »
As always precise and to the point !! Thanks DavidR.

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 11:30:10 PM »
You're welcome.

Many ISPs forget that it is you that are the customer and they the service provider.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 11:59:16 PM »
Why not simply change your ISP - -  Netzero is about the same price and it supports Outlook express.
I still have one of those free 10 hrs per month account with them.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 12:24:40 AM »
Why not simply change your ISP - -  Netzero is about the same price and it supports Outlook express.
I still have one of those free 10 hrs per month account with them.
Hay Bob ! You know, I had been using "Juno" for about 8-9 Years before I went to isp.com. The last couple of upgrades Juno did, did me in !. Looking back now it may have been IE6 that was the prob. Am now testing and using Opera, So far So Good. NO Opera errors, like I was getting with IE6. May go Back and try JUNO again. Thanks for the input. (Opera webmail) offers for $29 and change,POP and others.) Will look into that too.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 12:30:33 AM »
There are many free webmail options so if you don't need or want pop3 access go with a free one.

For $19 a year that would pay for my domain renewal and a good part of the way for my email service, so I would say that is not cheap, especially if you were only going to use it for webmail.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 03:35:19 PM »
I fully agree with David.
Why pay for something that's available for FREE. :)
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 04:07:10 PM »
My ISP also outsourced their email system to Gmail, so a few comments.  I now access the gmail system and sign on with the username and password associated with my ISP account.  I was already using Stunnel and encrypted email for both Gmail and the old ISP system, so the impacts were very minor-just change the Stunnel.conf to reflect the new addresses.  If you don't want to use Stunnel or Webmail, Gmail already scans both your inbound and outbound mail with an anti-virus and anti-spam system that works very well and is constantly updated and improved.  Just use the port 995 and 587/465 for your email, and select TLS/SSL as appropriate.  An advantage of going all Gmail is that you can also block all traffic in and out of ports 110 and 25 with your firewall, so that even if you get something undesired, it can't communicate.  I still scan incoming email with avast! on my main computer, but mostly out of habit.  :)
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 06:57:30 PM »
I still scan incoming email with avast! on my main computer, but mostly out of habit.  :)
Me too... is more an habit than really an issue nowadays. Using Gmail quite some years and never had a single virus coming by email. Also phising is filtered with Google antispam that is very good and is continuing improving.
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Re: email client avast scan
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 09:44:35 PM »
I expect that Gmail servers see as much spam and email malware as anywhere on the internet so are in an ideal position to do something about them and keep their filters updated.  And agree they seem to do a pretty good job keeping up with it all.  Seems much more effective than relying on individual inputs, honey traps, and the like, but don't really have any insight into their process.  :)