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Lex

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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2009, 10:38:21 AM »
Having one more distributor doesn't make product more popular.

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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 02:13:42 PM »
Product popular - and avast need a major distributor in Nth America - sorry but you back to front Lex    ;D

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And main driver for corporate sales is free home version, installed by administrator or decision maker in that company.

If you in corporate sales and you install free home version rather than pro version, then you must be living on a different planet.


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Somebody can tell that MSE will be accessible only for licensed versions of windows.

It's 2009 Lex, Windows is only accessible to licensed versions of windows.


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And currently in terms of functionality avast is not much more than MSE - tha same antivirus, antirootkit and antispyware functions.

I dont know where you get this idea from.
And the following has no bearing on anything at all. Nothing at all is making any difference other than it has never been more important to have full protection for your computer system, especially when going to the internet. The market is opening up more and more for antivirus solutions in general and avast is in the right place at the right time to take advantage of this surge in demand.

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And McAfee with Symantec is not so vulnerable now. Their products has much more functionality and never have had free full-functinal version as marketing instrument.

For McAfee and Symantec, things are still the same.


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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2009, 09:45:45 AM »
If you in corporate sales and you install free home version rather than pro version, then you must be living on a different planet.
I'm talking about decision maker of potential client. Firs of all they install home version on their home computer and then promote purchase of corporate to their company.

It's 2009 Lex, Windows is only accessible to licensed versions of windows.

May be it's true for New Zeland, but in Russia we have more than 70% of pirated software, so 7 of 10 windows is pirated.

I dont know where you get this idea from.

Please be more specific, I'm talking about functionality.


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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2009, 02:25:12 PM »
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And currently in terms of functionality avast is not much more than MSE - tha same antivirus, antirootkit and antispyware functions.
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I dont know where you get this idea from.
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They are both antivirus, they have that in common. They do function differently but you are right when you say that they both serve the same purpose. MSE stands to substitute for avast. But only in a general sense. Besides, I'm not sure Microsoft wants to delve too deeply into the antivirus market, not when there are abundant third party options that work in well with Windows system. You can count avast in amongst those.

Windows Defender was hardly a heavyweight amongst firewalls. The reality is that Microsoft is always about 80% of desktops on the market. And MSE tools is going to be part of those desktops. But it will  hardly be a takeover as much as it will not be the winning of the war against malware. Those things never seem to happen. Instead Microsoft always seem disposed to working in with third party software if that means keeping Windows on the market in running order. From within the comfort zone of their ubiquitous desktops, they hold a privileged position in the market - when it comes to graphic, audio and antivirus, amongst other things, they can take options in both their own as well as third party software. So they wont be pushing too far out of their comfort zone. Especially with the world outside, 'in the wild', looking far too much of a handful for one single company to contend with.
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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2009, 03:53:28 PM »
I will not have only Microsoft Security Essentials as my malware protection nor anti virus application as I prefer Layered Protection.

Microsoft Security Essentials forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse

Pirates deserve all the wonderfull malware the Internet can deliver and Russia and China seem to be the major sources of malware:
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/worldmap/?view=AS,score

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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2009, 04:00:30 PM »
You can find another discussion on this subject at:
http://forums.pcworld.com/thread/59411?start=0&tstart=0

AV-Comparatives.org, said it would formally test Security Essentials in August, and release its results the next month. (Sept.)
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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2009, 05:14:36 PM »
Well i prefert my nice major kit and its Avast! + MBAM. I love them both and why leave them ? Microsoft missed a lot exploit to my eyes and i think exploit and script is like a major virus now a day. Like i heard in news their like 300 000 websites that is hacked and more... So i think Avast! is accurate on this way.

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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2009, 07:08:44 PM »
From the laugh-of-the day dept
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July 4, 2009 | Symantec: it’s dangerous to rely on free antivirus
By John Pospisil

 A top Symantec executive has hit out at free antivirus software, including Microsoft’s Microsoft Security Essentials, warning consumers that it won’t be enough to keep them safe.

Speaking to BLORGE, David Hall, Symantec’s Product Manager Asia-Pacific Consumer Products and Solutions said that free antivirus software isn’t able to keep up with full-price suites like those offered by Symantec.
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2009/07/04/symantec-its-dangerous-to-rely-on-free-antivirus

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/04/1121255 <== read the comments

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Re: Microsoft Security Essential (MSE) - avast! killer
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2009, 06:08:37 PM »
Probably not the best thread to post this message, but still, does fit in with the content so far.
I will post the main points, then return the MSE focus to a previous thread, where I had been posting most of my content on MSE.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=46087.0


The following applies specifically to XP (and possibly to other Windows OS - Vista and Windows 7).

Microsoft seems happy to categorise MSE as antimalware. Perhaps they do this so as not to intrude too far on the usage of patrons who already have long-standing relationships with third party technologies. On the other hand, perhaps they intend to introduce a new category of software that covers the detection and removal of all malware types. 

The relevant registry entries are found in --
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\

The location of MSE on C:\ drive is --
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\

Event log is found in --
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Support

I have only briefly looked through the log. It is long , and as yet I do not know what is represented.


Also in XP. MSE appears to have a bug. The problem concerns auto updates which are intermittent, may be hit and miss, and do not seem to click in automatically with the new boot.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mseupdate/thread/da5f6761-28c2-4541-aefa-1801470b3150

Some of these issues were thrashed out in the first few days of Beta launch of MSE. I guess because the problems were not resolved, the likelihood is that there is a bug.

The reports from my trial use of MSE will be posted in the following thread --
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=46087.msg392063#msg392063
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