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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3900 on: July 15, 2015, 08:13:57 PM »
But there are others that find it hard to mitigate because lack of an alternative. Large department stores with XP driven cash systems are left out in the cold.
And I agree with you there are millions out there that should not have a "puter" because the way they run it is endangering themselves and others also. Driving an OS without a license should be considered as an offense.

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Well in the UK as far as I'm aware, The National Health Service (NHS) are paying a lot of money so that their XP systems continue to be updated. This is the same as some large companies paying for support for their XP Point Of Sale (POS) systems.

This has lead to the SP4 Hack so XP systems can continue receiving XP POS updates, no doubt in due course MS will kill this hack to try and drive them towards win10 purchase as they won't be eligible for a free OS Upgrade (as legit versions of Win7 and win8.x are).
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3902 on: July 16, 2015, 07:11:17 PM »
But there are others that find it hard to mitigate because lack of an alternative. Large department stores with XP driven cash systems are left out in the cold.
And I agree with you there are millions out there that should not have a "puter" because the way they run it is endangering themselves and others also. Driving an OS without a license should be considered as an offense.

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The Unofficial SP4 for Windows XP: http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Extends updates for an additional 5 years. I would still recommend upgrading but, if that's not possible,
this is better than the alternative: No Updates....
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3903 on: July 17, 2015, 12:21:37 PM »
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3904 on: July 17, 2015, 12:38:02 PM »
No-one needs flash anymore
Agreed Pol, I droped it several months ago and don't miss it... ;)
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3905 on: July 17, 2015, 12:48:03 PM »
Still installed on my end, no malware or exploit yet :D
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3906 on: July 17, 2015, 12:55:09 PM »
Hi Steven Winderlich,

You were lucky then as you know that adobe flash needs constant updating and then again no one needs it now for vids or whatever.
So I hope it will not "zombie"upon you. Just an example of what can happen with exploits. Here is a scan: http://www.domxssscanner.com/scan?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblackorwhite.nl%2F where I searched for "comment", with at the bak of my head what was proposed here: http://blog.9bplus.com/if-i-were-an-attacker-third-party-js-librarie/  I am not an attacker, but just now imagine how easily this could have been done. Always remember those that want to protect just need the whole manual to get full protection an attacker just nbeeds one little wormhole.

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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3907 on: July 17, 2015, 12:58:37 PM »
I still have Flash and Java installed and Avast or me myself keep it up-to-date as much as possible :)
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3908 on: July 17, 2015, 03:36:57 PM »
I still have Flash and Java installed and Avast or me myself keep it up-to-date as much as possible :)
The problem is that the updates only happen after another vulnerability has been discovered and left you exposed:(
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3909 on: July 17, 2015, 03:44:42 PM »
No-one needs flash anymore: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en

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Flash isn't dead at all:
Quote from: 'Google Chrome Article'
Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and enabled by default. Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are automatically included in Chrome system updates.

A.) It's still there, you just don't see it any more in Chrome, but it is there and updated as part of Chrome.
B) You have got to be using Chrome, so that isn't going to happen for everyone (me for one).

I still have Flash and Java installed and Avast or me myself keep it up-to-date as much as possible :)
The problem is that the updates only happen after another vulnerability has been discovered and left you exposed:(

So the same is true of Chrome&Flash, vulnerabilities can still be exploited before Chrome is updated.
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3910 on: July 17, 2015, 04:14:20 PM »
No-one needs flash anymore: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en

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Flash isn't dead at all:
Quote from: 'Google Chrome Article'
Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and enabled by default. Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are automatically included in Chrome system updates.

A.) It's still there, you just don't see it any more in Chrome, but it is there and updated as part of Chrome.
B) You have got to be using Chrome, so that isn't going to happen for everyone (me for one).

I still have Flash and Java installed and Avast or me myself keep it up-to-date as much as possible :)
The problem is that the updates only happen after another vulnerability has been discovered and left you exposed:(

So the same is true of Chrome&Flash, vulnerabilities can still be exploited before Chrome is updated.
That's why you also run Flashcontrol in Chrome. :) 
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3911 on: July 17, 2015, 04:52:52 PM »
No-one needs flash anymore: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en

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Flash isn't dead at all:
Quote from: 'Google Chrome Article'
Adobe Flash Player is directly integrated with Google Chrome and enabled by default. Available updates for Adobe Flash Player are automatically included in Chrome system updates.

A.) It's still there, you just don't see it any more in Chrome, but it is there and updated as part of Chrome.
B) You have got to be using Chrome, so that isn't going to happen for everyone (me for one).

I still have Flash and Java installed and Avast or me myself keep it up-to-date as much as possible :)
The problem is that the updates only happen after another vulnerability has been discovered and left you exposed:(

So the same is true of Chrome&Flash, vulnerabilities can still be exploited before Chrome is updated.
That's why you also run Flashcontrol in Chrome. :) 

Yes, but you miss my point Flash is still present, as are potential vulnerabilities which could be exploited. How are you to know that there isn't a potential vulnerability when you give flashcontrol the OK to load it.

It may well limit the risk but it doesn't completely remove it.

NoScript can also restrict the running of Flash (and JAVA if you have that too), also in the Flash Player settings you can restrict it from storing data on your system.

So there are ways to limit risk, but not completely remove it, this is why hard disk imaging is the way to go for a backup and recovery strategy.
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3912 on: July 17, 2015, 11:49:28 PM »
ILOVEYOU – SPAM

https://blog.malwarebytes.org/social-engineering/2015/07/iloveyou-spam/?utm_source=Gplus&utm_medium=social

Concerning "flash" or anything else as far as that goes, "nothing gets fixed until it's broke".
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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3913 on: July 19, 2015, 05:13:43 AM »
Steer clear of low-tech hacks: How to keep your information safe
http://www.cnet.com/news/steering-clear-of-low-tech-hacks/

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Re: SECURITY WARNINGS & Notices - Please post them here
« Reply #3914 on: July 19, 2015, 09:50:26 AM »
Mitnick proved that social engineering was and is an enormous threat and a prelude to all types of compromittal.
Get the uninformed ignorant persons to tell details they should not share with anyone can mean the difference between a succeeded attack and a trial run. Re: http://wiki.cas.mcmaster.ca/index.php/The_Mitnick_attack

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