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Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« on: March 21, 2010, 09:18:14 PM »
Hi!

How to make avast web shield not to scan through ad muncher traffic?  :o

That way it lets me save virus files to my computer and i don't want to shut admuncher down.

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 09:35:09 PM »
Hi!

How to make avast web shield not to scan through ad muncher traffic?  :o

That way it lets me save virus files to my computer and i don't want to shut admuncher down.

maybe u want 2 search the forum, there have already been some threads concerning ad muncher.
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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 09:55:34 PM »
Well, I wouldn't ask if a would have found some solutions but no..

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 10:30:45 PM »
As far as I'm aware avast doesn't scan ad muncher traffic as it also uses a proxy to do its filtering, so it won't be using the web shield proxy. The web shield redirects HTTP port 80 traffic and ad muncher isn't a browser, so it isn't listed as an approved browser in the web shield, it isn't opted in, so it shouldn't be scanned.

So given your second sentence, you actually want avast to scan the ad muncher traffic, yes ?

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 10:43:07 PM »
So given your second sentence, you actually want avast to scan the ad muncher traffic, yes ?

NO! I don't want avast to scan ad muncher traffic! Kaspersky, bitdefender etc. scans through ad muncher too but with them I can configure that they won't scan it but with avast I can't.

With every detection alert says:
process: c:\programfiles.....admunch.exe

but when close admuncher:
process: c:\programfiles....firefox.exe (that is how it should be!)

I don't want avast scan ad muncher traffic but  I don't know how to configure avast (there is no option).

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 11:35:00 PM »
What avast version are you using 4.8 or 5.0 ?

Sorry but avast doesn't scan ad muncher traffic using the web shield I say this because there are lots of topic about ad muncher and their complaint is that the avast web shield doesn't scan the ad muncher traffic, so I have no idea what is going on on your system.

See these topics which show the web shield by default doesn't scan ad muncher traffic, there are many, many more if you use the forum search for ad muncher in this avast! Free/Pro/Suite particular forum:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53704.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55755.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55757.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56047.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=31486.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56551.msg478401#msg478401

So there is no configuration for avast not to scan ad muncher traffic.

Can you post a screen shot of the alert so I can get an idea of what is catching it ?
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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 08:06:05 AM »
What avast version are you using 4.8 or 5.0 ?

Sorry but avast doesn't scan ad muncher traffic using the web shield I say this because there are lots of topic about ad muncher and their complaint is that the avast web shield doesn't scan the ad muncher traffic, so I have no idea what is going on on your system.

See these topics which show the web shield by default doesn't scan ad muncher traffic, there are many, many more if you use the forum search for ad muncher in this avast! Free/Pro/Suite particular forum:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53704.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55755.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55757.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56047.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=31486.0
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56551.msg478401#msg478401

So there is no configuration for avast not to scan ad muncher traffic.

Can you post a screen shot of the alert so I can get an idea of what is catching it ?

Well, maybe i'm using version 5, that's way i'm writing to v5 forum?

Again, have already tried those links and no help.

And take a look at that picture, hope u understand what i mean.

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 09:03:16 AM »
Well, maybe i'm using version 5, that's way i'm writing to v5 forum?

Again, have already tried those links and no help.

And take a look at that picture, hope u understand what i mean.
According to the screen-shot, yes, you are using Avast! 5 and its Web Shield checking the internet traffics.  As DavidR stated, Web Shield doesn't support Ad Muncher by default (I checked this current version of Avast! 5 means, Program Version 5.0.462 and Engine and Virus Definitions 100321-1).  So, someone must have configured Web Shield for Ad Muncher, which should be clear if you read/understand these posts in DavidR's post.

However, in the first place, why should you like to download virus files?  If you don't know even what versions are your security applications, I cannot but get rid of an impression that you might be playing with fire...  I have to wonder if I am really helping you if I show a way to temporary disable Web Shield.  To me, it doesn't seem to be a good idea...

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 09:14:56 AM »
According to the screen-shot, yes, you are using Avast! 5 and its Web Shield checking the internet traffics.  As DavidR stated, Web Shield doesn't support Ad Muncher by default (I checked this current version of Avast! 5 means, Program Version 5.0.462 and Engine and Virus Definitions 100321-1).  So, someone must have configured Web Shield for Ad Muncher, which should be clear if you read/understand these posts in DavidR's post.

However, in the first place, why should you like to download virus files?  If you don't know even what versions are your security applications, I cannot but get rid of an impression that you might be playing with fire...  I have to wonder if I am really helping you if I show a way to temporary disable Web Shield.  To me, it doesn't seem to be a good idea...

Aah.. I have done that ortin bla bla admunch thing to avast webshield that avast checks http traffic too when ad muncher is on but is there way to make it not to scan through admuncher?

Well, I tried with eicar files how avast works and for the future it could be best if i get best configuration to avast if you can get my point here?

Rumpel, really, please don't answer to my posts again 'cos you really don't give any help. You might think this way: 'customer is always wrong', you don't know how to handle customers.

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 09:18:45 AM »
I'm sorry for my above post..

I'm moving back to kaspersky av. And guys, you should check out kaspersky forum how they help people without underestimate customer.

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 09:54:15 AM »
still have to say something.

I am so disappointed to this forum.  Avast have make such a great product (version 5) but where is the professional forum support? If u ask something, you get some sh*t answers that don't help anything.

And back to my problem, believe me, I'm going now with a baby steps....

Installed avast antivirus version 5.0.462 to my windows 7 32 bit OS. DONE!
Updated virus database. DONE!
Added ad muncher to webshield.ini ---> c:\programdata.......webshield.ini ---> OptinProcess=admunch.exe under [WEBSCANNER]. DONE!
And I did above thing 'cos when admuncher was on avast webshield did not work, and now it works. DONE!
Alright, so I tried eicar testfile and avast antivirus version 5.0.462 did scan eicar testfile through admuncher and i was able to save eicar testfile to my computer. BUT when i close admuncher and tried again with eicar testfile it gave blank page (and i think that is how it should be). DONE!

Now I have the problem that avast scans http traffic through admuncher and I'm asking how to make it not scan through admuncher? And is that even possible?

And if somebody knows what can I do now please help!

But if u have solutions like 'turn avast webshield off' then...

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 11:00:44 AM »
Rumpel, really, please don't answer to my posts again 'cos you really don't give any help. You might think this way: 'customer is always wrong', you don't know how to handle customers.

just 4 clarification: you are not rumpels customer!
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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 11:15:00 AM »
just 4 clarification: you are not rumpels customer!

And I didn't know that yet?
It's just, if u don't know how to help, then why.. Never mind, forget it.

Just mean avast forum support sucks, nothing personal tho!

If I ask someone to help for my problem and only answers is like those what i've get, then...
That is not much for help or is it?

And if there is nothing to do then say something like 'Can't help you, sorry' etc. and I have to live with it.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2010, 11:20:39 AM by Wex »

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 03:12:40 PM »
Installed avast antivirus version 5.0.462 to my windows 7 32 bit OS. DONE!
Updated virus database. DONE!
Added ad muncher to webshield.ini ---> c:\programdata.......webshield.ini ---> OptinProcess=admunch.exe under [WEBSCANNER]. DONE!
And I did above thing 'cos when admuncher was on avast webshield did not work, and now it works. DONE!
Alright, so I tried eicar testfile and avast antivirus version 5.0.462 did scan eicar testfile through admuncher and i was able to save eicar testfile to my computer. BUT when i close admuncher and tried again with eicar testfile it gave blank page (and i think that is how it should be). DONE!

Now I have the problem that avast scans http traffic through admuncher and I'm asking how to make it not scan through admuncher? And is that even possible?

And if somebody knows what can I do now please help!

Sorry, have to put this back to up.. Anyone got any ideas? 
I like this software but that issue is so annoying that I'm gonna change to kaspersky or avira if there is nothing to do.

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Re: Avast web shield + Ad Muncher
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 03:33:29 PM »
You said you didn't want avast to scan ad muncher traffic.

I said that by default it doesn't.

Yet you say you have added ad muncher to the web shield optin process, thereby having avast scan it.

So I am totally confused, a) by default it shouldn't be scanned as I said, b) yet you go and add it to the process that will scan the traffic.

As I said in my first post ad munched uses a proxy and so does avasts web shield.

If you didn't optin ad muncher, then the web shield has nothing to scan (not that it isn't working) as the ad muncher proxy redirects the traffic to its proxy and the web shield doesn't see anything as there is effectively no port 80 traffic.

When you opit in ad muncher in the webshield.ini (and uncheck the Ignore local communication. avast Settings, Troubleshooting, Redirect Settings), then you force avast to scan that ad muncher traffic, so I hope you can see why I'm confused.

But the problem is you keep saying you 'don't want avast to scan ad muncher traffic' and I don't see any way to do that if you also want the protection of the web shield as the two proxies act differently.
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