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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2010, 10:57:18 AM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2010, 11:24:49 AM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

MSE does that - disable automatically and completely Defender - but I never noticed that Avast did, not even the real time scanning part. This said, Defender is completely useless when Avast is installed.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2010, 11:39:12 AM »
I keep Windows Defender updated through its portal:
Latest definition version: 1.79.583.0
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2010, 02:52:30 PM »
Well even in old pc or new pc i alway keep WD turned on without slow down or notice that its was conflict with avast! or anything else. ;)

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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2010, 05:12:34 PM »
This said, Defender is completely useless when Avast is installed.

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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 06:44:52 PM »
This said, Defender is completely useless when Avast is installed.

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On  XP SP3 that is true.

Windows Defender on Vista and Windows 7 is a completely different application than on XP.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2010, 08:10:33 PM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

Can you show some solid evidence of this? WD claims to be fully functional on my 2 Windows 7 boxes running Avast 5 Free.
If Avast 5 is disabling WD its doing it wrong because WD claims its functioning normally. It should not be disabiling WD anyway.
Avast 5 does not have some of the protection WD has.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2010, 11:08:36 PM »
This is Windows Defender on my Windows 7 system:
Client Version:  6.1.7600.16385
Engine Version: 1.1.5605.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.79.629.0

It is set to run a Quick scan daily at 7:00 AM.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2010, 03:35:05 AM »
 I don't know !! But I think AIS is better than Windows Defender.

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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2010, 08:49:37 AM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

Can you show some solid evidence of this? WD claims to be fully functional on my 2 Windows 7 boxes running Avast 5 Free.
If Avast 5 is disabling WD its doing it wrong because WD claims its functioning normally. It should not be disabiling WD anyway.
Avast 5 does not have some of the protection WD has.

I only remember a post (by Vlk I think) to the effect that because WD was integrated into Vista and 7, and had some useful functions, potentially conflicting WD actions would be suspended by avast! installation.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 01:00:19 PM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

Can you show some solid evidence of this? WD claims to be fully functional on my 2 Windows 7 boxes running Avast 5 Free.
If Avast 5 is disabling WD its doing it wrong because WD claims its functioning normally. It should not be disabiling WD anyway.
Avast 5 does not have some of the protection WD has.

I only remember a post (by Vlk I think) to the effect that because WD was integrated into Vista and 7, and had some useful functions, potentially conflicting WD actions would be suspended by avast! installation.

yeah, Vlk also said Ipsec would get deactivated if you disabled the firewall in Windows Seven ;)
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 03:01:16 PM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

Can you show some solid evidence of this? WD claims to be fully functional on my 2 Windows 7 boxes running Avast 5 Free.
If Avast 5 is disabling WD its doing it wrong because WD claims its functioning normally. It should not be disabiling WD anyway.
Avast 5 does not have some of the protection WD has.

I only remember a post (by Vlk I think) to the effect that because WD was integrated into Vista and 7, and had some useful functions, potentially conflicting WD actions would be suspended by avast! installation.

I believe that is incorrect. And if I find out it is correct, I'll (with sadness) be saying goodbye to Avast.

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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 03:30:19 PM »
Windows Defender on Vista and Windows 7 is a completely different application than on XP.

true, nevertheless i never was near likeing any! of microsofts 'security sw', maybe except the w7 fw, which isn't that bad, imo. they have enough work 2 do securing their different oss. (and r much 2 nosy...) ;D
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2010, 09:38:49 PM »
WD is built in to Vista and 7 so avast! 5 disables the real-time scanning component when installed.

Can you show some solid evidence of this? WD claims to be fully functional on my 2 Windows 7 boxes running Avast 5 Free.
If Avast 5 is disabling WD its doing it wrong because WD claims its functioning normally. It should not be disabiling WD anyway.
Avast 5 does not have some of the protection WD has.

I only remember a post (by Vlk I think) to the effect that because WD was integrated into Vista and 7, and had some useful functions, potentially conflicting WD actions would be suspended by avast! installation.

I believe that is incorrect. And if I find out it is correct, I'll (with sadness) be saying goodbye to Avast.

Today I installed the latest build of TrueImage 2010 build 7046. Once completed windows defender popped up wanting to send files to MS to be analyzed.
So its BS that Avast 5 disables Defender. See screen shot.
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Re: AIS 5 vs. Windows Defender (Win7)
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2010, 11:12:02 AM »
Are you running the latest 64-bit Windows Defender ???

What I see in About Windows Defender available in Help options:
Client Version:  6.1.7600.16385
Engine Version: 1.1.5605.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.79.1151.0

Latest definitions available from Microsoft: 
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