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What do you think Avira is?

They are a cheat, no doubt about it.
50 (89.3%)
I trust Avira and I am sure they must have a good reason nehind this.
6 (10.7%)

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Voting closed: July 28, 2010, 02:42:25 PM

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Offline -Genesis-

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 04:40:18 PM »
Seems like both Avira and Avast are pulling equally "dirty" tricks here.

Your wrong dude.

Not Avast but Avira is doing dirty tricks. You could read the 1st page.

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 04:40:49 PM »
There you go bong2x.

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 04:46:26 PM »
If they hurry, I think comodo.de is still available.  ;)
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 04:47:44 PM »
If they hurry, I think comodo.de is still available.  ;)
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 05:09:29 PM »
Seems like both Avira and Avast are pulling equally "dirty" tricks here.

Your wrong dude.

Not Avast but Avira is doing dirty tricks. You could read the 1st page.

I have link for Avast blog. It has most details you need to understand.

I've read it all, only difference is Avira isn't giving some useless excuse for why it's doing it, giving useless excuses just insults the readers intelligence adding insult to injury. They are both doing the same thing in the end, both being "dirty", whatever their excuses.

edit, with the exception that I only see Avast complaining about it while they're also doing it so you can add hypocrite to one site, no prizes for guessing which.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 05:12:07 PM by Browser »

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 05:14:28 PM »
Browser, did you see the dates the domains were registered?
Do you think TrendMicro is doing the same thing with www.antivirus.com ?
You're just making Avira defense for an non-excusable behavior...
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 05:22:48 PM »
The thing is, ALWIL granted the request for AVIRA to buy www.antivir.com address. They kept the www.antivir.cz as this is a very local thing anyway (unlike .com which is global). Plus "antivir" can be "antivirus" in short. avast on the other hand only means avast and AVIRA holding on to it is nothing else than a dirty trick to "steal" avast! users. I know lots of similar addresses are on the internet, held by various users just to make profit out of it, but this one is really obvious. And one thing is for a local kid to have it or a professional company... that's where it makes the difference.
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 05:28:56 PM »
The word Antivirus is an English word not a trademark

So TrendMicro can use it without any problem

The word Avast is also an english word which means 'stop'

I don't think that Avast.eu is an infringement of trademark because after all Avast is an English word in the English dictionary.

Is apple.org an infringement of Apple trademark?

No

If you type Apple.org, it lead to  a Genetically modified Food and Organism website not Apple Mac website

I don't think neither Avast or Avira is wrong.

Finally Avast.eu is registered by Avira in its own name. So Avira has a right to do anything with the domain including redirection...
« Last Edit: March 30, 2010, 05:33:12 PM by Chris Thomas »

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 05:34:02 PM »
The word "stop" has nothing to do with Avira.
You're comparing apples with oranges.
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2010, 05:57:36 PM »
The word stop has a lot to do with Avira as it stops malware

Do you think that the people in Avira are fools to register Avast.eu without consulting themselves with the rules regarding website domain registration and trademark infringement?

They are not kids and they are a highly rated company. They are not idiots to register this domain if they are going to face backlash i.e legal problems.... 8)

They might have made this decision after a very hard study

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2010, 07:32:18 PM »
The word stop has a lot to do with Avira as it stops malware
C'mon, a lot of words will be in this list: security, protection, start, stop, clean, good, bad...
Non sense imho.

Do you think that the people in Avira are fools to register Avast.eu without consulting themselves with the rules regarding website domain registration and trademark infringement?
Not fool or idiot.
Just non honest.
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2010, 07:37:10 PM »
No doubt avira cheats. They use the name of avast, because avast is same name of one of the most popular anti-virus today. And guess what kind of product of avast they are selling. It is an anti-virus also, same kind of product they want to sell. Thus they gain big on this one. I remember long time ago I also installed Avira on my computer, but it did not took so long. Because i'm annoyed of an antivirus whose put a big banner of ads. Whats the point on still putting an ads in product that already been sold to your customer. Is not it a sign of greed.  ;D

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2010, 07:42:52 PM »
I see everyone's point here, but the bottom line is whoever buys a domain name owns the rights to it, and can do with it what they please.

Avast should have picked up all similar domain names when they first created their website so that things like this wouldn't happen.

I doubt that many people would use that domain anyway.

But this type of debacle isn't new... try http://nissan.com/ for example.  Think it's the website for nissan motor company?  ;D
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2010, 07:58:31 PM »
I see everyone's point here, but the bottom line is whoever buys a domain name owns the rights to it, and can do with it what they please.

Avast should have picked up all similar domain names when they first created their website so that things like this wouldn't happen.

I doubt that many people would use that domain anyway.

But this type of debacle isn't new... try http://nissan.com/ for example.  Think it's the website for nissan motor company?  ;D
Legally, you are right but this kind of behavior makes me wonder if the company is trustworthy....especially when the chief developer of their "rival" company is like this...

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2010, 08:47:57 PM »
I don't know why they would choose the word 'Avast' above anything else. I mean, there are more synonyms for 'stop'. They are just indirectly challenging their rivalry against Avast! It does not sound good. Right now, I have got no official word from the forum itself. If I get any, I will let you know for sure.
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