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Offline Vock

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Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« on: April 01, 2010, 01:09:48 PM »
I faced a number of times a strange effect:
When the computer boots up, Avast sometimes start with a red cross first, then becoming a yellow triangle and then being fully available (by the way: if I give the system some time when the login screen pops up before netering the system, then avast starts always directlywith the rotating ball). So far, so good; this happens apparently sometimes during startup, when several programs and services try to start more or less in parallel.
Now; when avast is in the "red cross" status and Zonealarm starts exactly at this time in parallel, my Windows security center tells me, that Zonealarm is inactive... which it clearly isn't.
I did several tests and trials, so before somebody suggests the following let me tell you what I did already:
- uninstall (with tool) avast, reinstall
- re-install Zonealarm es well
- tried to start Avast services after all other system services
- cleaned the databasw of the windows security center (under windows/system32/wbwm/repository
- deleted old prefetch files
The effect somes and goes, maybe every 10..20th system start, and expecially after activities like defragmentation (a faster system does not seem to help, in the contrary).
I did not recognise such a thing on avast 4.8

Looks like some race conditions between services starting up. By the way: I also recognised once that the windows security center itself stated not to be active. When looking into the lists of services it ist stated "started"... so something similar like with Zonealarm itself.

It's not a big problem, by shortly ending Zonealarm and restarting after all is ok again - but still some nuisance.

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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 01:19:36 PM »
troubles with za come up here rather often. :(
i would drop it, isn't that good anymore as it was a long time ago...
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 01:24:46 PM »
Some use WinPatrol to set the startup-order of their services.
Or you could try to set avast to start after all other services have started first.
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2010, 01:28:12 PM »
@Zyndstoff,

as already written in my original post: I tried already to let Avast start after all other services - no good, proably even worse...

But I will give winpatrol a try.
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2010, 01:30:12 PM »
Or you could try to set avast to start after all other services have started first.
See screen shot...

i think he did that... ;)
btw, liked ur april post!!! lol ;D
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 01:39:06 PM »
@Zyndstoff,

as already written in my original post: I tried already to let Avast start after all other services - no good, proably even worse...

But I will give winpatrol a try.

Oooops... sorry, overread that.
Anyway, Asyn is right: ZA doesn't fit too well to avast somehow. Many report good results with Comodo.
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 01:48:13 PM »
Anyway, Asyn is right: ZA doesn't fit too well to avast somehow. Many report good results with Comodo.

or outpost!!! (not 2 b marked as fanboy again..) ;)
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 01:51:33 PM »
or pctools.

Asyn, you must admit: that was a little too much comodo in the other thread.  8)
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Re: Avast 5 free and Zonealarm - conflict?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 02:38:41 PM »
Asyn, you must admit: that was a little too much comodo in the other thread.  8)

meanwhile... i don't even dare 2 spell the 'c' word. ;D 8)
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