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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2004, 11:50:11 PM »
Tell me about that... I posted in here more than 1300 posts and I never saw anyone calls anybody an Idiot... thats' just unbelievable.

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2004, 12:28:07 AM »
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How to communicate with idiots who have horrible English and pull stuff from their ass?
I intended not to get involved in your petty attacks on one of our senior members so I'll handle this as an outsider just visiting this forum and looking at only this one thread.
I can't understand how some one who has had more than 1350 posts (not counting private e-mail help replies) and some one who speak 3 languages can ever be thought of as an idiot.
Judging People by the quality of their posts, I can only attribute S.Z.Craftec as an extremely intelligent person who cares about his fellow human being.
Your posts on the other hand, have usually been nothing more than snippets trying to entice a fight.
If it's a fight that your looking for, you've come to the wrong place.
You might however find that you'll no longer have any one to fight with on these forums.
Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney.
Peace and grow up to become a fine caring young man.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2004, 07:43:30 AM »
I am sorry S.Z. but I am speechless.  I am Infuriated and shouldn't speak out right now.  I would suggest that the moderators of this forum consider banning "Staind"

We don't want and dont need what he brings.

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2004, 09:26:00 AM »
I will address a few issues:

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I always liked the looks of the Confederate flag, also I've seen a few flown here in Canada. My dad and I always wanted to get one.
Hm. I do not know where that says I hate people, or that I'm racist?  Maybe I should clarify this, since I didn't want too before - since it is a bit personal.  The main reason for getting a confederate flag would be to honour and remember 3 of my ancestors who died fighting for what they believed in. Not for the values the flag itself represented, but their memories who died for what they believed and what they did was right - protecting their way of life and what they felt was valuable to them.  Sorry if this offended anyone.
Secondly, please do not mention my father. He has never posted here, and you have no idea how he has impacted my life in any manner.

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Your posts on the other hand, have usually been nothing more than snippets trying to entice a fight.
If it's a fight that your looking for, you've come to the wrong place.
You might however find that you'll no longer have any one to fight with on these forums.
Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney.
You definitely make good points, and I respect your opinion. But I never entice a fight in the sense of what you mean (or maybe I misunderstand you). I do debate, and argue but never want to personally fight. The only thing I cannot stand is stubborn people (I have to admit I am stubborn myself, which is probably the reason for this) and hence get frustrated after awhile.  Most people would respond to this and just say - then give up who cares? But, it's another flaw in my personality that I can't give things up until they come to closure.

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Remember, talking to yourself can become very very loney.
There are worse fates.

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That is the plan.


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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2004, 03:49:00 PM »
Well may you enjoy your fate.  I for one will not respond to any more of your threads, and call on the other regulars to ignore you as well, refererencing this thread as reason enough.  Calling people names is childish and immature, I am sure you will have something nasty to say about me as well but I will simply ignore it and you.  Sitting behind your computer calling people names is cowardly.

As far the confederate flag goes, a war was fought over it, the civil war.  People that stood behind that flag, stood for states rights and slavery.  In this day and age it is a symbol that primarly represents hatred and intolerance for minorities.  The KKK has adopted it as their flag of choice.  

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2004, 04:04:33 PM »
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But I never entice a fight in the sense of what you mean (or maybe I misunderstand you).
There are many ways of fighting and, verbal can sometimes be more abusive then a fist fight. The words you use (or choose) can cause as much pain as if you used your fists. The scars that you create with these verbal abuses last much longer than any physical scars.
Also remember that it only takes one insult or an unkind word to leave a long term impression about the kind of person you are.
So my young friend, choose your words wisely not hastily.
Angry words, spoken in haste, have ended many a relationship. Mine is still in tact after 45 years. I hope one of these days you can say the same. (Remember, a friendship is also a relationship.)
I wish you Peace, long life and happiness.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2004, 04:06:57 PM »
As far the confederate flag goes, a war was fought over it, the civil war.  People that stood behind that flag, stood for states rights and slavery.  
I beg to differ on this point.
The average Confederate soldier wasn't a slave owner and not everyone who fought with the north was against slavery.
As a Virginian,many of my ancestors fought in the "War of Northern Aggression" ;) none of which ever owned a single slave.
I will agree that the Confederate Flag offends many people and I understand why completely.  

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2004, 04:46:31 PM »
I have updated to Firefox 0.9.2  and Thunderbird 0.7.2, seemingly with no problems.  :) First ever security hole now fixed!  

The Firefox 0.9.2 is still in beta, available on the nightly builds and not available on the usual downloads page. The same is true of TB 0.7.2.

Whilst there shouldn't be any problems, people should be aware that it is beta and could cause problems. It may be better to await its release on the downloads page.

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2004, 04:58:07 PM »
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Remember that this version was issued to patch a security hole. Without the patch, the browser is vulnerable to attack.
Which puts the user between a rock and a hardplace.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2004, 05:17:34 PM »
I'm totally aware of that, loading beta software can cause potentially more harm.

The Firefox site 'Nightly Builds' does also warn about beta builds and they haven't put that build on the regular downloads page. So I'm also following their advice.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2004, 07:12:48 PM »
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Well may you enjoy your fate.  I for one will not respond to any more of your threads, and call on the other regulars to ignore you as well, refererencing this thread as reason enough.  Calling people names is childish and immature, I am sure you will have something nasty to say about me as well but I will simply ignore it and you.  Sitting behind your computer calling people names is cowardly.
I have not made many threads, if you aren't going to reply to what I say why wouldn't you do so now instead of ignoring what I have written?  

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As far the confederate flag goes, a war was fought over it, the civil war.  People that stood behind that flag, stood for states rights and slavery.  In this day and age it is a symbol that primarly represents hatred and intolerance for minorities.  The KKK has adopted it as their flag of choice.
A flag has many different symbols depending on the person's cultural background. I already apologized if it offended anyone, that should be enough.  It's like saying that some people see the American flag as a representation of liberaty and freedom while others see it as oppression and imperialism.  Two different views coming from a flag. Hey, go figure?

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There are many ways of fighting and, verbal can sometimes be more abusive then a fist fight. The words you use (or choose) can cause as much pain as if you used your fists. The scars that you create with these verbal abuses last much longer than any physical scars.
I would believe that in some instances except in this one. Idiot, is not that bad of a word .... at all.  If anyone thinks it's horrific, I would suggest they not venture outside.  But, I listen to what you say and take heed to your advice.

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Also remember that it only takes one insult or an unkind word to leave a long term impression about the kind of person you are.
I am a horrible person, I thought we established this awhile ago? ;)


Oh, notice: The mozilla security hole, was really just allowing users to run already scripted programs on your computer. They could not add or edit code (I think, if I'm wrong please tell me). So, overall it wasn't that big of a deal.. at all.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2004, 08:00:48 PM »
I have been reading these forums for a long time now, but have never felt the urge to post until now. I have learned a lot from these forums, and I hate for them to fall apart for something so petty as a little argument. Staind made a mistake in calling a revered member an 'idiot', and he has tried to make amends. He has helped a bunch of people, and he obviously just wants to contribute to the forum. The whole flag scenario was a simple mixup, and staind has explained himself properly. He deserves another chance IMO. Thank you, and please continue the good work on this great forum!

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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2004, 08:37:55 PM »
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Welcome to the forums. I'm sorry you had to pick this one thread to judge thing by.
Unfortunetly, this isn't the only thread or forum on which we have run into the same problem.
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2004, 09:54:19 PM »
I just wanted to comment on something that this thread was originally talking about and that is the security issue with Firefox etc. I have chosen to not upgrade firefox or thunderbird but instead I went and downloaded the security patches that they offered with no problems what-so-ever. I did as instructed, checked to make sure that the patches were working as instructed. Just wanted to let anyone know whom might be considering using the patches to fix the security problems instead of downloading the complete new versions of Firefox and/or Thunderbird. As to the other issues mentioned here no comment from me is forthcoming. This information is to reply to the question posed originally in the first post here from chameleon. HTH chemeleon :)
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Re:Mozilla products security threats and new versions
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2004, 10:00:08 PM »
Hi neal62'
I'm glad to see your face is still smiling and your chin is still up.
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