Author Topic: Melih Abdulhayoğlu: genius, madman, or just purporting another cloud scanner?  (Read 51482 times)

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DACS ? Should be SSFOA(stealing signatures from other AV's)..  ;D That's theft imho and also quite despicable as logos puts it...

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DACS ? Should be SSFOA(stealing signatures from other AV's)..  ;D That's theft imho and also quite despicable as logos puts it...

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IObit had stolen Malwarebytes' database and incorporated it into their software.
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Yes it's quite obvious that they are incapable of producing a decent AV themselves so they resort to another method, stealing detections from other AV's...

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End user has AV xx installed on his system and wishes to participate in DACS for the good of the community. They will install a plugin that allows communication with DACS (through EasyVPN).

Now when a Comodo user scans a file that is unknown, DACS will send this file to the participants with various AV's installed. Those AV's will scan the file, and the result is sent back to DACS. DACS in turn will gather results from all of the supported AV's.

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http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/dacs-released-distributed-and-collaborative-scanning-t66827.0.html;msg470098#msg470098

I don't care how Melih(he is a bit crazy if you ask me) tries to justify this, it's stealing from others and that's that. Even if it's somehow legal(which i doubt), it's at the very least completely unethical.

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They're sharing the infected files (malicious code) not the definitions.
The malicious code copyright is difficult to defend...
If you want to disagree, do it reasonably.
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They're sharing the infected files (malicious code) not the definitions.
The malicious code copyright is difficult to defend...
If you want to disagree, do it reasonably.

unless the participants found a way to scan files without using the original AV software technologies, and centralize the results in DACS, a Comodo labeled product right?

 Sounds like Comodo may have acquired Immunet?  :D (I don't care if there are differences or not, it's the same concept)

is that more reasonable?

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End user has AV xx installed on his system and wishes to participate in DACS for the good of the community. They will install a plugin that allows communication with DACS (through EasyVPN).

Now when a Comodo user scans a file that is unknown, DACS will send this file to the participants with various AV's installed. Those AV's will scan the file, and the result is sent back to DACS. DACS in turn will gather results from all of the supported AV's.

... now it would get funny if all participants were using Comodo AV ;D ... which is very likely to happen. I mean for instance would you expect me as an Avast user to participate in a Comodo program? for the safety of mankind may be? no freakin' way :D get a life Comodo ;)

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How does virustotal own the files and the scanning results?

This is just another Comodo hype about a way to improve their own detection rate and, of course, protect better your products users.
The technology is interesting. The users have their own antivirus license. They're sharing the results.
What I can't see is that this will be better for non-Comodo users like virustotal.
For Comodo users, of course, this is a great advantage.
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How does virustotal own the files and the scanning results?

that's what I said in one of my previous posts here, VirusTotal may have (not a 100% sure about that) an agreement with security software companies, while Comodo, being a security software company themselves, obviously doesn't and cannot.

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I heard that Comodo has patented DACS  ;D

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I figured out what those letters actually stand for:
Display Another Companies Scan  (and claim it as you own.)   ;D
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Thanks to all who have contributed. There are still many unanswered questions about DACS, but if it can increase overall user security it may be worth a shot. Afterall, individually, signature based AV's are losing the anti-malware war. As in, there is currently no single AV program with 100% detection.

What I can't see is that this will be better for non-Comodo users like virustotal.

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We are more than happy to give all respectable AV companies the DACS. So its not just Comodo users who benefit from it, but everyone! lordraiden quoting Melih

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I figured out what those letters actually stand for:
Display Another Companies Scan  (and claim it as you own.)   ;D

How about this bob Despise Antivirus Companies Scams

and use them against them.

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quotes of the day ;D

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Why would you pay a "Security company" for forcing you to be "less secure" by forcing you not to use DACS?

http://bit.ly/hToEEa
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who would want to pay to a "security company" for them "trying to reduce your security"?

 I guess I would add another option to the title of this thread :D
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quotes of the day ;D

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Why would you pay a "Security company" for forcing you to be "less secure" by forcing you not to use DACS?

http://bit.ly/hToEEa
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who would want to pay to a "security company" for them "trying to reduce your security"?

 I guess I would add another option to the title of this thread :D


All those other vendors forcing people to be less secure. What a crazy world. We all better pay close attention to the oracle of overstatement, lest we... er, um, manage to survive without Comodo DACS.
There is a way that seems right to a man,
       but in the end it leads to death
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Hermite15

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yeah the guy is purely and simply attempting to brainwash his fans with the stupidest arguments and lies one can imagine. He's also a desperate manager it seems... could be the sign of an upcoming bankruptcy. To be honest I'm a bit surprised that it hasn't happened yet.

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