Melih Abdulhayoğlu: genius, madman, or just purporting another cloud scanner?

[Hermite15]

I might not be there long: 
https://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/whats-dacs-and-what-does-it-stand-for-t65415.0.html;msg472692#msg472692

reading now

[YoKenny]

I have not liked Comodo since seeing these items:
Comodo continues to ignore malware warnings ....
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/07/comodo-continues-to-ignore-malware.html
Comodo: Watch your staff please (oh and a little correction)
Not content with Melih's blaming MS MVP, Donna Buenaventura for a blog posting by someone else, one of Melih's moderators have gone one step further and posted;

"We should hack her site and post the truth"
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/07/comodo-watch-your-staff-please-oh-and.html

[Asyn]

Also an interesting point... (http://support.emsisoft.com/topic/3196-dacs/)
asyn

This is my personal opinion and not necessarily the opinion of Emsi Software. The main issue I have with DACS are privacy concerns. It is true that DACS will only upload executable files. But even executable files can cause a privacy risk. Ever shared a self-extracting archive of your latest vacation photos with your not so tech-savvy family? Guess what ... that self-extracting archive fully classifies as an "unknown executable" and will get uploaded without your consent.

Now you could argue that Hitman for example does something very similar. But there are differences. The most important one is that I can stop the upload of files. I can decide what should be uploaded and what shouldn't. In addition the file is processed by Surfright exclusively. If they leak the file I upload or somehow abuse it I can sue them. I can't sue Comodo. Why? Because Comodo doesn't process the files sent to DACS. They don't even get a copy of it. All they get is the results provided by the volunteers that have the actual scanner installed on their system. They essentially just provide the infrastructure. So my file gets distributed to potentially dozens of persons that I don't even know. I guess it would take only minutes for a volunteer to change their system settings so they can actually prevent the files sent to them from being deleted by the DACS client software. So there is the real possibility for abuse and there most likely would be no way for me to take legal actions in case any abuse actually happens.

While the idea itself has potential I really doubt that those privacy concerns could be addressed. The only way I see is if Comodo performs all scans themselves and take legal liability for abuse similar to the way Surfright does. If they do so though they open themselves up for law suites by AV vendors. To avoid that they will only be able to use scanners of vendors they were able to arrange an agreement with. That number of vendors will most likely be a lot less than it is now which in turn would defeat the purpose of DACS in the first place which is to get as many opinions about a file as possible.

So I see a lot of issues with it. If they somehow manage to solve those issues it can be a great on-demand tool. But I doubt they will be.
Best regards,

Fabian Wosar [Development]
Emsisoft Team - www.emsisoft.com

[Hermite15]

this is a supposed to be a "CEO" posting here, unable to keep his distance, being hysterical basically... (yeah, I don't think a company leader should be involved at all on a public forum that he owns...for obvious reasons)

[Hermite15]

another quoted masterpiece  

... you can't see the problem that the world is facing in the hands of the AV companies....even MS was forced to build its own AV engine...ask yourself as to why?

http://bit.ly/ijFOHy

so WTF do you need to use their engines hey? ...

[sded]

Well now you have done it, Logos and Bob, you got us dismissed out of hand http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/whats-dacs-and-what-does-it-stand-for-t65415.0.html;msg472810#msg472810 .  Fortunately my stay at Comodo was brief.  It took about 3 months as a mod before Melih created the OA bribery fiasco and I began looking for another Firewall that supported Vista.   Indeed Melih ambushed me about one of my remarks after I had already removed Comodo from all my machines and we had a rather acrimonious discussion of my support to the users vs my lack of support to some Comodo issues and to the more bizarre things Melih had already done.  Comments like "not willing to be a pimp for Comodo" probably didn't sit well.  But I refused to back down from my comments he had collected like "Comodo is notoriously difficult to remove" and he refused to back down on things like his accusations of OA bribery, feuds, SSUpdater support, ...  He asked why I was still there; I told him that the way things were going I probably shouldn't be.  So I deleted my account and he vacuously made me an unmod.  No reason for a grudge; I was gone anyway. Rather I am disappointed in the path Comodo has taken but not surprised at Melih.  I think Melih could do a lot of good for the community, but not by refusing to accept that we are all in this together-"Comodo against the world" needs to be toned down somehow.

[Hermite15]

@sded: I have no idea why melih preferred to understand that I was referring to you when I mentioned the starter of this thread (here) ... when I of course meant Simion. I didn't correct him, as I hate posting there. It's very likely that the OP of the current Avast thread was sent over by Comodo so... the guy can't even admit that.

[bob3160]

I've also made my last post since closed minds don't seem to recognize constructive criticism
regardless which forum it's posted on. 
Unfortunately when you continue to argue with a fool, eventually you start to sound foolish. 

[Hermite15]

in answer to:

It's very simple! Such a hostile reaction from other manufacturers of anti-virus programs and their supporters on a new concept (technology - DACS) identify and destroy viruses shows that the Comodo has created a truly unique thing that other AV manufacturers could not come up with . Of course they will bite a long and painful

>>> Comodo is not coming up with anything, that's the problem, and that's why they're "producing" ten new crap apps a month

[Hermite15]

I've also made my last post ....

yeah, that's why I just gave them the link here and basta... Comodo is a dead end street.

 Again, they knew about this thread here before, as I'm pretty sure that they asked the OP to start it. I just thought that posting a reminder there...

[Hermite15]

this one sounds like a scientologist to me  

Better help Comodo to support the universal, global and free attack for malware.

ps: never mind what it means, or is supposed to mean

[Hermite15]

nice

Anti Virus Companies are Protecting Criminals! Not anymore thanks to DACS!

by Melih Abdulhayoğlu

http://bit.ly/f5YkwD
https://twitter.com/melih_Comodo/status/18027970635501568

(edit: I admit I didn't even bother to read that page when it was posted in the first post of this thread; just heard about it again on Twitter)

[bob3160]

I've also made my last post ....

yeah, that's why I just gave them the link here and basta... Comodo is a dead end street.

 Again, they knew about this thread here before, as I'm pretty sure that they asked the OP to start it. I just thought that posting a reminder there...

Sorry but I needed just one more. 

[Vlk]

Very funny I have to say...

[Chris Thomas]

I think if Avast think this is illegal, they should go to a court and sue them.......

I think we shouldn't post and debate with Melih even though we might be on the right side

Let the law go after them......

And, Bob, you must stop, because Melih might blow this out of proposition and even start a blog post, he never misses a chance to act like a communist leader....

Just like they made a big show with Symantec and challenged them

Just my opinion ofcourse