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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2010, 06:58:07 PM »
I would get a hardware firewall. Doesn't slow down things (noticable) and is much safer than a software firewall. A suppost should stand in front of the door, not behind it. He must prevent not wanted people from comming in, not let them in first and than have to get them outside.

You bet a Hardware firewall is definitely a good choice!
However, I also have a software firewall installed for those times I take the laptop away from my network (D-Link Router) into the public areas...Internet cafes etc. etc. ;)

The problem being most hardware firewalls unless they specifically state it don't have outbound protection, see #### below. Whilst most routers now have a firewall, it shouldn't detract from your providing outbound protection.

Not all malware comes from the internet, with according to avast iNews recently 1 in 7 or 8 infections come from infected USB flash drives; so a hardware firewall is useless against this kind of malware attack.

Whilst if you can guarantee your system is and will remain clean then outbound protection is much depreciated, but the majority of people simply can't guarantee that.

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Any malware that manages to get past your defences will have free reign to connect to the internet to either download more of the same, pass your personal data (sensitive or otherwise, user names, passwords, keylogger retrieved data, etc.) or open a backdoor to your computer, so outbound protection is essential.

If there happens to be undetected/hidden malware on your system and it makes an outbound connection, any resulting inbound connection will be allowed as it originated from your system and it doesn't matter if you have a hardware or software firewall.

Edit: typo
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 07:13:25 PM by DavidR »
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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 07:09:55 PM »
Thank you DavidR, a very concise and understandable explanation. :)

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 07:12:54 PM »
You're welcome.
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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 08:44:42 PM »
SilkO, Window's 7 firewall is alot better than previous version's so i would stick with that and upgrade your MBAM to the pro version, comodo is to fiddly for my liking but it's your choice :)
Even Logos has abandoned Comodo:
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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 08:46:46 PM »
Testing Online Armor Free, right now.

Giving a try to OP Security Suite Free (Firewall) later...

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2010, 09:19:24 PM »
Testing Online Armor Free, right now.

Giving a try to OP Security Suite Free (Firewall) later...

Yes, I've tested both for a month each and they were good...I liked OA better, however so much depends on idividual OS configurations. :)

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2010, 09:54:37 PM »
Outpost Free Firewall is no more.

Now exists Outpost Security Suite Free with AV, Firewall and Anti-Spam.
I'm thinking about download and turnoff just the AV and keep the rest.

The Outpost 7.0 Security Suite Free, will detect avast being installed and will disable elements so they don't conflict. I tried this on my win7 netbook and it disables the AV and anti-spyware elements.

It can be found at http://download.cnet.com/Agnitum-Out...-10913746.html , though the download link will redirect to one of the major download sites (Cnet download.com).

Outpost Free Firewall is no more.

That has not been confirmed. :)
From the Outpost Forum when asked "Has Agnitum discontinued the Free version of Outpost Firewall"

Reply by Moderator " Not really.but it does appear that the suite may be an update of that version. We'll have to wait and see if they update the free firewall or continue with the suite".  ;)
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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2010, 10:59:06 PM »
I highly doubt they will continue the free firewall only when they have the suite which contains version 7.0 of the firewall, when they check for the presence of installed AVs and confirm that you installed it and disable the AV and anti-spyware modules to retain compatibility.

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2010, 11:08:13 PM »
I highly doubt they will continue the free firewall only when they have the suite which contains version 7.0 of the firewall, when they check for the presence of installed AVs and confirm that you installed it and disable the AV and anti-spyware modules to retain compatibility.

That may be true, however from posting on the forum for awhile, I have gotten the sense that there is a movement(whether that matters??) by Free Firewall users to upgrade the Free Firewall,however I think alot will also depend on how well the suite continues to be accepted. :)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 11:13:42 PM by schmidthouse »

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2010, 01:57:12 AM »
Not sure if you'll find this info useful or not, but I thought of sharing it.

Sometime ago, in a few contacts I had with Agnitum, about their paid version, I brought to discussion the future of their free version. They mentioned they had plans to release a new version; only not a release date, and not sure if such would be in a near future.

A week or so after, the free suite came out. I'm not sure if they, in my contacts with them, they were mentioning the suite, or if they were considering whether or not just to provide the suite, and not release just the firewall version.

Who knows...

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Re: Windows Firewall?
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2010, 02:18:00 AM »
may be a personal firewall is necessary to protect your essential pesonal data from thieving :P by crimeware