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Offline DraKuL

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2011, 05:58:42 AM »
PLEASE READ WHAT I WRITE. I even provided a link. Services.msc allows you to go into your Windows services. 95% of that Toshiba stuff is unnecessary. Take time to learn your OS instead of using 3rd party solutions. Everything you need is built right into Windows.

I use two backup program encase one gets corrupted. Windows 7 Backup does not allow you to check the integrity of your backups like Paragon. Both are free so why not use  them. Once messes up you have the other. Its best not to argue with me cause you will loose.

Well I did read what you wrote, didnt have time to go through the ENTIRE site, and why go through all that trouble when you can do it in one click using soluto?

About backup software, I wasnt arguing with you, I said I dont know why they asked me to go for other software when windows offers the same and according to Bob also told that Win backup does a great job.. (I myself didnt have a problem with win back up).. By that post I made I was hoping you could explain why people go for 3rd party SW and not use the windows utility.. and you think I'm trying to argue..

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Its best not to argue with me cause you will loose.

I'm sure the entire forum(as well as some other forums) knows this, and about your computer knowledge  ;D  ;D and That you have 10years of exp  ;D  ;D you made quite an impression when you joined this forum I must say...
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2011, 06:20:25 AM »
I like to try and educate people to sue what they already have.

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2011, 06:21:08 AM »
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Services.msc allows you to go into your Windows services. I even provided a link.

Thanks! So you can delay startup processes by using a windows utility.. Like I said I wasnt sure about it..
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2011, 06:21:41 AM »
Of course you can and that goes back to the days of XP.

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2011, 06:28:56 AM »
I like to try and educate people to sue what they already have.

I assume you meant use?  :P

Anyway again, I only knew about msconfig as the windows utility for controlling start up applications/services.. And you had mentioned that msconfig and cc cleaner is enough to do the job that soluto does, thats why I said soluto does a better job because it lets us delay start up apps and services.. I also said that I wasnt sure whether windows has another utility to let us delay, and as you showed services utility lets us do the same thing.. Thanks..

But There is nothing wrong in using soluto IMO as its more user friendly and has a 'catchy' GUI.. For advanced users the services utility is good, but soluto shows everything in more detail, like the time it takes up of the boot time, it shows everything in seconds, more clearer, easier to understand hence more user friendly.. and according to it, it only takes 2seconds of the startup, so thats not bad IMO...
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2011, 01:45:12 PM »
I personally recommend using Winpatrol to accomplish these functions.
msconfig really isn't designed for this purpose and making changes in there can sometimes
do more harm than good. This has already been discussed in a different thread but,
I guess Dieselman didn't like the general consensus expressed in that thread.  ;D
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2011, 01:50:34 PM »
I personally recommend using Winpatrol to accomplish these functions.
msconfig really isn't designed for this purpose and making changes in there can sometimes
do more harm than good. This has already been discussed in a different thread but,
I guess Dieselman didn't like the general consensus expressed in that thread.  ;D

But Winpatrol wont let us delay most of the processes/ services.. Soluto showed 96 processes (out of which 56 were customizable- can delay/pause) where as Winpatrol shows much less that are customizable..
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2011, 02:48:11 PM »
I personally recommend using Winpatrol to accomplish these functions.
msconfig really isn't designed for this purpose and making changes in there can sometimes
do more harm than good. This has already been discussed in a different thread but,
I guess Dieselman didn't like the general consensus expressed in that thread.  ;D

LOL.............So Microsoft built msconfig into Windows for nothing according to you. And how can it to more harm by simply disabling a start up item? Your not suppose to go uncheck happy. Your suppose to know which programs you are disabling prior to doing this. Find me and IT Pro or a computer tech that installs WinPatrol do do something as simple as disabling a start up item.  ::)

Even if you call tech support with a problem they will tell you to go into msconfig.

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2011, 03:50:49 PM »
You can't delay certain items and that is essentially what is being talked about here by DraKuL, I'm sure you are educated enough to understand that and msconfig nor ccleaner can perform that action, just stop programs from running on boot.

Get it into your head that DraKuL wants to delay certain programs from running not stop them, so msconfig, ccleaner and blackviper can't do that.
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2011, 03:57:03 PM »
Does anybody actually take time to read replies in here before posting? I have said this over and over and its very clear. Drak actually sent me a PM. You use msconfig to stop your auto start ups (BTW any program in your start up can be mainly configured inside the program itself. Dont wont Skype to open when you boot into Windows. Open up Skype and uncheck 'Start with Windows"). If you want to DELAY a service the go into "services.msc". I even posted a link proving people with this information. Everything you need is built into your OS. Ok let me explain this to you people like a 5 year old. For Windows 7 users go to Start and type "Services" Open that up and there you go. WinPatrol makes it easy for non techie people.
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2011, 04:09:23 PM »
i agree with dieselman on that point ^^

i used to use winpatrol by lazyness and i removed it coz finally i can do all by myself.

msconfig or services.msc it's enough.

for soluto, i wanna try it but the installer were so long that i stopped ^^

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2011, 04:19:35 PM »
Soluto is another non techie tool. People think Soluto is great but you can do any of those things yourself. Want to know what's slowing down your boot time? Go into msconfig and check off "Diagnostic start up". Then one by one reable each item till your system slow down/boot occurs. What ever that last item was is the culprit. Its that easy.

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2011, 04:22:03 PM »
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Does anybody actually take time to read replies in here before posting?
Maybe if you learned to give advice instead of orders to most of the threads in which you want to
impose your will, your replies might actually be looked at in earnest.
This is a help forum not a forum in which you hand out advice to computer geeks.
Most of the people who are asking for advice are novices and the advice given to them
should solve their problems without putting their systems at risk.
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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2011, 04:25:51 PM »
Help is a two way street my friend. If you want help then you need to read what people write.

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Re: Avast 6 take long-time boot...
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2011, 04:28:30 PM »
Help is a two way street my friend. If you want help then you need to read what people write.

"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot teach him to drink"
As usual, your missing the point of the type of help required here.
Your still trying to impose your geek cures to non geek users.
Learn to listen before you try to impose your will.
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