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Offline Lisandro

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2011, 02:19:17 PM »
avast autosandbox could fight with Comodod Defense+ in my opinion.
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2011, 02:28:29 PM »
avast autosandbox could fight with Comodod Defense+ in my opinion.
When two security programs fight for a file, the less protected the user will be...

.... Avast auto-sandbox can conflict with Comodo auto-sandbox, this yes, but not with the rest of Def+.

 two things to disable absolutely when running Avast and Comodo:

1 the AV (no need to mention...)
2 CIS or Avast auto-sandbox

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2011, 03:03:16 PM »
Why not Defense+? HIPS and autosandboxing won't be fighting for the file control? ???
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 03:29:27 PM »
Why not Defense+? HIPS and autosandboxing won't be fighting for the file control? ???

Just uninstall Comodo AV and turn off Comodo Sandbox and also the Comodo Cloud.

Comodo sandbox conflict with Avast Autosandbox.

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 03:31:46 PM »
Why not Defense+? HIPS and autosandboxing won't be fighting for the file control? ???

 ??? HIPS will just keep working with sandboxed files, what's the problem ::)
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2011, 03:42:17 PM »
As soon as you are using only one of them, then it might not be possible...

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2011, 04:32:46 PM »
abcd...... :o

Yes, get rid of Comodo AV. You can not run two AVs. Also, there are several posts in Comodo Forums from members running XP Spk3 who claim that CIS 5.3 had crashed their system, but not real answer from Comodo devs if they are investigating these cases. Others are doing OK like Speedy. My case, I am back to Cfw 3.14. I can not make CIS 5 to run well in my sys in Proactive Security. It runs OK in Firewall Security, but that set does not give you all the HIPS protection.

Exclude Comodo in Avast Behavioral Shield and File system shield. Also make it a trusted program for Avast Sandbox.

Avastsvc.exe should be set as " Installer/Updater " and avast.setup (this is hard to find) should be in your trusted files.

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2011, 04:51:12 PM »
Why not Defense+? HIPS and autosandboxing won't be fighting for the file control? ???

No.
Why should they..?
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2011, 09:55:24 PM »
??? HIPS will just keep working with sandboxed files, what's the problem ::)
???
Sandboxed files invoking HIPS outside of the sandbox?
Are the changes really being done? I mean, the sandboxed applications really try to change real files outside of the sandbox and trigger the HIPS?
How does it work?
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2011, 10:04:25 PM »
??? HIPS will just keep working with sandboxed files, what's the problem ::)
???
Sandboxed files invoking HIPS outside of the sandbox?
Are the changes really being done? I mean, the sandboxed applications really try to change real files outside of the sandbox and trigger the HIPS?
How does it work?

I must be dreaming ::) ... sandbox files won't invoke anything, and the HIPS will monitor sandboxed files is that clearer ??? ::)... and if Avast implemented something that prevents HIPS monitoring of sandboxed content -  and I can't tell because I never tested that - that it won't monitor anything. And if it does, it will monitor what happens inside the sandbox.

 Now if the sandbox leaks, then there's no doubt that the HIPS will hit. Look I haven't tested that but I'm pretty sure that CIS def+ sends an alert when Avast auto-sandbox does (an alert about the auto-sandbox alert, not its content). It's a process, period.


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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2011, 10:40:43 PM »
logos is correct.


"...but I'm pretty sure that CIS def+ sends an alert when Avast auto-sandbox does (an alert about the auto-sandbox alert, not its content). It's a process, period."


When I implemented Avast AutoSandbox tool test, I got 1/2 a dozen alerts from Comodo saying that Avastsvc.exe wanted to change some files and registry keys, as matter of fact the alerts came out before Avast itself telling me that the tool must be run in the sandbox ( I have it set to ask ).

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2011, 10:55:06 PM »
Now if the sandbox leaks, then there's no doubt that the HIPS will hit.
Sure. But only in case of leak I suppose then...
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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2011, 11:05:50 PM »
logos is correct.


"...but I'm pretty sure that CIS def+ sends an alert when Avast auto-sandbox does (an alert about the auto-sandbox alert, not its content). It's a process, period."


When I implemented Avast AutoSandbox tool test, I got 1/2 a dozen alerts from Comodo saying that Avastsvc.exe wanted to change some files and registry keys, as matter of fact the alerts came out before Avast itself telling me that the tool must be run in the sandbox ( I have it set to ask ).

thanks, this proves there's no conflict, and CIS HIPS of course hits first ;)

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2011, 11:08:05 PM »
thanks, this proves there's no conflict, and CIS HIPS of course hits first ;)

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Re: AVAST and COMODO conflict
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2011, 11:11:10 PM »
yeah Asyn, I know how powerfull Def+ is  ;)