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dendanny

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Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« on: February 26, 2012, 10:33:32 PM »
Sorry guys, but I just wasted 5 hours of my live due to the latest version!

Since a few days AVast reports many of my apps as 'suspicious' when previously it never complained.
Since version 7 (installed this afternoon) I not only get an alert of a suspicious program - but my computer crashes instantly (!) with a blue screen and a core-dump !!! Complaining about something to do with "ASWNSX.sys".

I am a developer that creates his own executables dozens of times a day - now, every time and without exception they crash with a blue screen! I can not use my machine anymore! I tried setting up exclusions, disable all real-time shields, the sandbox, etc. nothing helps or prevents these blue screens :(((

When I tried to register on the site, it took an hour before I got the confirmation email. Even after confirmation I couldn't use any of the support features wanting to create a ticket and send you guys a support package. Only this forum works (I hope). Avast used to be my preferred virus killer but you guys are going fast to be the next Norton: an overkill of complex features and a million configurable options when I want absolutely nothing to do with whatever is required to stop a virus and other nasty situations. So far you guys had a flawless record, but this is a real show-stopper. Please resolve this asap!!

With Regards,
Danny.
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Gargamel360

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 10:42:53 PM »
The autosandbox works for protecting someone who runs mostly well-known software, but as a software developer, it might well give you more headache than it is worth in terms of security. 

That said, it really should not cause BSODs.  So you might want to upload those dumps to their FTP with a link back to this topic so they can look at them>>https://support.avast.com/index.php?languageid=1&group=eng&_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=18


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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 10:47:35 PM »
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I am a developer that creates his own executables dozens of times a day
Change the setting from auto to ask then you can always tell avast! to run it normally and remember your anser so it doesn't bother you about that .exe  again.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 10:57:15 PM »
That might work now but VLK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2012, 01:34:42 AM by Dch48 »

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 11:07:11 PM »
That might work now but PK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build.

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I am the only one who always sets that to ask just so that I have some notice and control over what gets sandboxed and what doesn't?

Dch48

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 11:12:54 PM »
That might work now but PK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build.

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I am the only one who always sets that to ask just so that I have some notice and control over what gets sandboxed and what doesn't?
No, I always did before v7 but now it's on auto since even on ask, the detected app terminates automatically before you get a chance to choose the options. Apparently the ask option is going away anyway.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 11:39:32 PM »
That might work now but PK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build.

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I am the only one who always sets that to ask just so that I have some notice and control over what gets sandboxed and what doesn't?
No, I always did before v7 but now it's on auto since even on ask, the detected app terminates automatically before you get a chance to choose the options. Apparently the ask option is going away anyway.
Not the last time it asked me and that was with version 7 set to ask.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 11:41:36 PM »
Just disable the AutoSandbox alltogether. For someone who develops his own apps, that feature is bound to do more harm than good.

Dch48

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 11:50:08 PM »
That might work now but PK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build.

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I am the only one who always sets that to ask just so that I have some notice and control over what gets sandboxed and what doesn't?
No, I always did before v7 but now it's on auto since even on ask, the detected app terminates automatically before you get a chance to choose the options. Apparently the ask option is going away anyway.
Not the last time it asked me and that was with version 7 set to ask.
Try the test tool with the sandbox on ASK. Yeah it opens in the sandbox fine but it automatically terminates after about 15 seconds anyway. It never used to do that and in my opinion, it shouldn't do it now.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 11:51:15 PM »
you gotta love the tiltle of this thread ;D

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 11:54:42 PM »
I am a developer ...

We are in the same boat.
My problem is - I need to explain my (potential) customers that Avast have some new "features" ... Just hoping that Avast guys will do something, when they come to work tommorrow... and I spend my weekend trying to find why Avast complain ...

Dch48

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 12:06:19 AM »
Despite what VLK has stated, (or maybe even more so because of his statement), I am not a fan of the new autosandbox behavior and I strongly feel it should go back to how it used to be.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2012, 01:32:22 AM by Dch48 »

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 12:07:48 AM »
"That might work now but PK has already stated that the ask option will be removed in the next build."

It seems the auto-sandbox in v7 is being rendered useless... rather than allowing suspicious programs to be run in a sandbox, for the user to be able to observe the results, it now appears simply be a "tool" to confirm or "take-back" avast's "suspicion".

I'd strongly advocate they bring back the sandbox as it was implemented in v.6
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2012, 12:27:45 AM »
I have not had a blue screen, but some serious crashes on lesser known (but still popular) games that load other resources as avast tries to sandbox them and turn game mode on at the same time!
I have turned it off it's pretty dangerous in default state tbh!

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2012, 12:34:02 AM »
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I'd strongly advocate they bring back the sandbox as it was implemented in v.6

nope ::) ... the process misbehaves , they have to correct this, that's all. Going backwards would be a disaster, and that won't happen.