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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Baltic112 on January 26, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
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Dear Avast developers!
Avast 5 final version suck. I am so disappointed. I was using Avast for 2 years, liked it very much. The new version I've installed today is so raw, and it's not even Beta anymore! I am sorry guys, but I'm just too much disappointed, I even think I'll switch to AVG or back to 4.8
Avast icon is not animated, cannot register for more than a year - is a big disadvantage. I am away from home 5 months a year, my wife will not be able to re register when I'm away.
Ugly, uninspiring interface etc, etc..
Bad job! Shame!
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good luck ;D
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I've discovered Avast cannot scan files on my PC, it just freezes! Also it does not manually update itself, I was waiting for 5 minutes for it to download updates - no luck!
SHAME!!!!!!!!!
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SHAME!!!!!!!!!
YES :D
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I left AVG almost 6 years ago and there is no way I would go back.
Use your previous history of avast and either let us try to resolve your problem (which you don't mention) or revert yo avast 4.8 and we can help you with that too if needs be.
What do you meant you can't register for more that a year, it has never been that way with avast Home 4.8 in the past. If avast pro, it is possible to purchase a license
It is much easier in avast 5 to re-register through the User Interface (which I don't feel at all ugly or uninspiring), see image. When the time is due the data on there will allow for re-registering and is only a few clicks away, you may be doing your wife a disservice in thinking she won't be able to handle it.
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DavidR
I've pointed above many of my problems with 5.0
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My little orange whirlygig goes round - the scans are fast. A display is a display - can you find what you want easily ? it is in my opinion easier than 4.8
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I know where to find it man. It just doesn't go round anyway, in addition to all other bugs that I had with 5,0
Anyway, it was very hard to switch back to 4,8. PC went crazy. Now with 4,8 I cannot scan separate files, and cannot install any skin.
That does it, I'm switching to AVG now. All of my friends use it, and I see it has nice interface. Hope I'll not need to crack Kaspersky, if AVG is the same s*it as Avast 5,0 :(
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I feel very sorry for us all by loosing such an eloquent and tech savvy avast user.
Good luck to you.
;D
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I'm not waiting for sorry words, from some German old dude.
Just want to say that Avast needs to be repaired by the programmers, who made this messy 5,0 s*it.
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we think we now what the problem is, and we could help you fix it.............if you ask nice...... ;D
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Pondus
Thanks man! I appreciate your offer. But there are so many bugs, it's really easier to switch to AVG, until they fix all the stuff I've mentioned.
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Pondus
Thanks man! I appreciate your offer. But there are so many bugs, it's really easier to switch to AVG, until they fix all the stuff I've mentioned.
so why do you keep posting ? you've said it two or three times already..."Avast is crap, a shame etc... and you switch to AVG", why do you keep logging in to this site at all ???
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so why do you keep posting ? you've said it two or three times already..."Avast is crap, a shame etc... and you switch to AVG", why do you keep logging in to this site at all
Wouldn't it be better if you encourage the user to try avast! the next time when the bugs are fixed?
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so why do you keep posting ? you've said it two or three times already..."Avast is crap, a shame etc... and you switch to AVG", why do you keep logging in to this site at all
Wouldn't it be better if you encourage the user to try avast! the next time when the bugs are fixed?
no, not when such a tone is used, I'm not an Avast priest ;D ::) I'm not here to convert anyone.
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Guys,
Just be patient,
I am realize that guy (Baltic112) have unstable emotion, so be patient...be patient...we are facing some guys which lose his control.
Hi Baltic112,
We are really appreciate if you be polite in here to respect and especially for Zyndstoff. Even though he doesn't answered your issues, but please more respect to older one.
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why "especially for Zyndstoff" ??? ;D
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Wouldn't it be better if you encourage the user to try avast! the next time when the bugs are fixed?
Avast is popular anyways without the encouragements. I want to point out to the developers of Avast that they need to make homework regarding 5.0 flaws.
You have to understand my frustration. I've been using 4.8 for a long time, and I liked the lack of problems in it. 4.8 made my PC working experience calm and safe. Now I've experienced such bulls#it with 5.0 and I very disappointed.
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Hi Logos,
Yes, because his old already.... :P :P :P
Hi Baltic112,
I understand what does you problem facing now, but please more be a educated person when you posting statement in here.
Please do respect to others first, if you want to be respected (as Bible said).
I believe that you are educated and polite person.
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I want to point out to the developers of Avast that they need to make homework regarding 5.0 flaws
kidding, giving lessons now ? ::) why don't you start by giving a few details about what went wrong with your avast 5 install, you didn't say anything interesting from the beginning, and just expressed anger, anger about what exactly if I may ask ??? elaborate, thanks, about the freezing etc...: error messages, bsod, got a minidump file somewhere waiting may be? screen shots! If you don't feel the need to troubleshoot what happened, I'm asking again, why do you bother posting at all ???
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Hey, yanto... I'm not dead already. ;D
Baltic,
everybody here does understand your frustration, we've all been through some frustration whilst beta-testing (at least most of us). But it's true: you were not very polite and you didn't answer the questions or described in depth what you don't like and leads to your dismay. You used strong wording, that's all.
I'm sure that many of your problems could be solved. If you don't like the GUI, well, that's a matter of personal preferences. ::)
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Agree....
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To the evangelists , the guys that you mention are really angry because ,
1) the BSOD are too regular (I did personnally what some are saying, no luck, I even lost a part of my mailbox)
2) I submitted tickets with the minidumps, no answer at all (saying we have well received your ...!!)
As a happy user of the version 4.8 , I bought an upgrade to IS 5
Do you think that we hve to smile or to be happy , the problem seems that Avast 5 is not fully tested that's all
Can I just ask to Alwil to say when they think a "stable" version will be available ?
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To the evangelists , the guys that you mention are really angry because ,
1) the BSOD are too regular (I did personnally what some are saying, no luck, I even lost a part of my mailbox)
2) I submitted tickets with the minidumps, no answer at all (saying we have well received your ...!!)
As a happy user of the version 4.8 , I bought an upgrade to IS 5
Do you think that we hve to smile or to be happy , the problem seems that Avast 5 is not fully tested that's all
Can I just ask to Alwil to say when they think a "stable" version will be available ?
Hello pbombart...I agree, you don't have to smile or be happy when your computer has become unstable or you're having issues with software that you've used in the past and probably had fewer issues with. I will say to keep watching the forums and wait a bit. BSOD's are quite frightening, and cause you to feel helpless when they happen. vlk and his crew are probably swamped with minidumps right now for sure and I personally believe they are working through as many issues as they possibly can.
Everyone won't get an answer to their problem(s) from them personally at this juncture. Try to hang in there and I too as you will be watching and waiting. If you're able to use the new version at all, try to keep going with it as I am on my test machine. If not, continue to use the 4.8 and stay close. I'm hoping things will get better...counting on it. ;)
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If Avast 5 is working perfect on some P.C.s but not others is it the programme or the P.C.For me,I am lucky because it works perfect.Scans are a lot quicker,I liked the old interface but I like this one more.Its updates are easier and quicker so for me Avast 5 is a improvement on a already good quality programme.If I did have problems with it I would go back to Avast 4.8.I looked at A.V.G.out of curiosity and saw how great a difference there was between A.V.G. free and pro.I have only ever used Avast and that,s the way it will stay.
I would guess that on those computers it is not working right there is a conflict of programmes otherwise why is it working perfectly on most P.C.s.If it were otherwise you would not even be able to log onto the forum because it would be that busy.
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no "software" is perfect you know :-\
but alwil guys are doing their best to improve their product..
a few people facing some problems with their own pcs does not mean avast is the cause as the majority is really satisfied with it ???
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big chances, as I mentioned earlier today and as some users now seem to confirm, that the behavior shield is behind most issues experienced on XP/32. I can only advise again to disable it, or even uninstall it (temporarily until it's fixed) and reboot. This should sort things out for many.
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lol i have avast 5.0 in both a desktop with XP and Laptop Windows 7, never got any problems...
only thing that i no longer have is my dear url blocking feature, other than that its doing its job beter than earlier.
Without mention it uses half or much less the ram it once used in 4.8 ;D wich is far beter.
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big chances, as I mentioned earlier today and as some users now seem to confirm, that the behavior shield is behind most issues experienced on XP/32. I can only advise again to disable it, or even uninstall it (temporarily until it's fixed) and reboot. This should sort things out for many.
If it is behind most of the problems with XP 32bit I wonder if those affected are using some sort of behaviour/hips processing on their system.
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big chances, as I mentioned earlier today and as some users now seem to confirm, that the behavior shield is behind most issues experienced on XP/32. I can only advise again to disable it, or even uninstall it (temporarily until it's fixed) and reboot. This should sort things out for many.
If it is behind most of the problems with XP 32bit I wonder if those affected are using some sort of behaviour/hips processing on their system.
could be...but I don't think so, a big majority of people as you can imagine don't use HIPS, and haven't even heard of that. What I think is that by nature, the behavior shield reacts, very differently on systems, even with the same OS.
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could be...but I don't think so, a big majority of people as you can imagine don't use HIPS, and haven't even heard of that. What I think is that by nature, the behavior shield reacts, very differently on systems, even with the same OS.
Yeah, I agree. Plus add to that that many system run thousands of different apps, some of which may well be of doubtfull sources. Or an infection (or left overs) that didn't bother 4.8 and is now causing trouble on v5.
I believe that most of the problems lie in the particular users setup (and sometimes better: mess up 8) ). It is absolutely obvious that a software like av-software can not be programmed to fit to every particular machine from scratch.
There are 100 million users for avast - and some thousands are crying out, millions and millions are just happy, content users.
Of course it's completely understandable that each and every single user is disappointed if things don't run smooth from the start. But a little patience is neede, that's all.
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@ Zyndstoff
ReOf course it's completely understandable that each and every single user is disappointed if things don't run smooth from the start. But a little patience is neede, that's all.
Remember:
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time
Abraham Lincoln
Into each life a little rain must fall
Longfellow
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Dear Forum User,
When I approached AVAST site and I had heard it was good I did not anticipate having to deal with a Frozen machine since AVAST did not inspect my machine before I ran the install of AVAST.
The AVAST Panel for selection of types of protection will not work. It is slow in response. I bought AVAST because the machine at home has Lsass.exe on it and I wanted to clean the registry of a bad Trojan.
1. Avast did not remove any errors because the FIX button does not work
2. The machine installed AVAST but did not check for interferring programs hangs the machine
3. Hardware boot is now necessary
4. Your program may not be worth the money I guess I'll go back to different AVAST mistake. What a malaise which I hate but it never froze my operating system. Why doesn't AVAST check for old software and eliminate it or give me the chance to eliminate it when I buy a product from your group?
5. I have a recovery detail in mind but I wish I would have joined this group before I paid you
6. SHAME is AVAST middle name it seems or check that it is their first name
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What security software were you using before? Did you remove it completely, including whatever cleaner is provided (by companies like Symantec, McAfee) or using something like Revo installer? Avast! doesn't interfere with software from other vendors you might have, they don't always know what it is you are trying to achieve, and your choice of other software is purely your decision. Not uninstalling other AVs, for example, can cause problems for the installation of any replacement. Avast! just doesn't take over the management of your machine; that isn't their job. But if you describe here what you have and what you did, there are willing knowledgeable people who can try to help you get things working.
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could be...but I don't think so, a big majority of people as you can imagine don't use HIPS, and haven't even heard of that. What I think is that by nature, the behavior shield reacts, very differently on systems, even with the same OS.
Yeah, I agree. Plus add to that that many system run thousands of different apps, some of which may well be of doubtfull sources. Or an infection (or left overs) that didn't bother 4.8 and is now causing trouble on v5.
I believe that most of the problems lie in the particular users setup (and sometimes better: mess up 8) ). It is absolutely obvious that a software like av-software can not be programmed to fit to every particular machine from scratch.
There are 100 million users for avast - and some thousands are crying out, millions and millions are just happy, content users.
Of course it's completely understandable that each and every single user is disappointed if things don't run smooth from the start. But a little patience is neede, that's all.
+1
I think perhaps we could differentiate between Windows, Linux and Macs when we speak of the problems some users are having with the new release. For myself, I will only be looking at issues with avast 5 on Windows platform. And my gut feeling - this early in the piece – while mostly there will be no problems, issues can arise in the meshing of avast services with Windows OS and for any number of reasons. As I read and copied down this morning (because so well said) - 'there is a vast amount of variation among the billion-plus Windows PCs in the world, so it's hard to pin down the reasons' (sorry cannot reference the link, but came from a post in this forum). And particularly difficult where there may be damaged or corrupted files involved, Windows Installer springs to mind, a real bugbear when broken and the mess can spill out to impede desktop config in general (from what I gather), as well as meshing of web services in general (ditto). Some users are going to have to tweak their desktop and/or their browser before they will have avast 5 smooth running.
Edit - Black Viper always helpful when it comes to tweaking computer - http://www.blackviper.com/
Edit - and work in with your updates of course - avast and Windows
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I had my troubles with the Beta... I flip flopped quite a bit between versions.
Regardless of the issues I had with 5, when I switched back to 4.8 it was stable it was everything it was before I messed with 5.
Some time passed and the issues were fixed. I go back to 5. Whatever frustrations I had were just that... frustration. I can say that once I was back on 4.8 I realized Alwil is a very good company. They have great people and despite all the hateful words they press on and end up with a quality product.
Really people have issues whenever they jump on the bleeding edge bandwagon. Windows has long had this with all versions. I'm not saying Alwil was pushing a product out. But they must have felt that there was sufficient number of people using the beta to release it. If only 2% of the people with problems are rare issues like they have been as of late... then they are harder to track down. As you can see they have another build that might have solved 80% of those 2% who had severe issues.
Quality is a process not a destination. They do put quality work together as they can make changes and make major fixes quickly as well as supporting many other products including older versions. If you have spiteful words or want to go to another product that is fine. I think one jumping else where when the years of using Alwil's Avast Anti-virus... there is no reason to believe they are anything less than they ever have been. Seeing this actually released shows that they still have what it takes to be the best in my eyes.
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Not sure about situation where works in 4.8 and not in 5. I first would have expected same issue to occur in both versions, and problem to have have been desktop or browser. But differences in versions would have to be allowed for as well. It doesn't take much to upset the running.
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gotta say I'm really fed up with people associating the word "shame" with Avast >:( ... these guys have been providing you (us) with a fantastic free AV for years now, the new version might have some issues on some systems but it's still better, much better than the previous version, and the previous version was already really good; those guys, the devs, do not behave like others do on other support forum, ie they don't claim to produce the best security software in the world, they humble and they help and they from what I've seen they seem to work hard on improving things daily, daily, and not just when some of you shameless posters come around here to report a bsod ::) I would have liked to see your face back in the nineties, slow internet or no internet at all for many and Windows 95 crashing ten times a day :D
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I would have liked to see your face back in the nineties, slow internet or no internet at all for many and Windows 95 crashing ten times a day
yeaa......but they fixet it in win98..........it only crashed once or twice a day ...... ;D
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For those interested, check this pre-release (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54491.0) which aims to fix most of the issues.
Moreover, if possible, please provide some more info like previous AV, if it a clean install, or anything else. Most problems are simply fixed by a repair or clean install. :)
Note: The pre-release is still a pre-release afterall so please bear in mind that it could still be risky by some point.
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I would have liked to see your face back in the nineties, slow internet or no internet at all for many and Windows 95 crashing ten times a day
yeaa......but they fixet it in win98..........it only crashed once or twice a day ...... ;D
LOL ;D
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Howdy folks! Well, I've been an Avast user n big fan of long! However, I must admit that Version 5 hasn't quite lived upto our expectations as yet! Yea, it is much slower than v4.8 and also some of the features n interface r quite new! The general consensus would be that with every new version of any software, we expect the overall user experience to be much better than previous versions! That is yet to happen with Avast 5! I installed Avast 5 for a day and my PC took more than 20 mins to boot up! After i switched back to Version 4.8, it booted in jst over 2 mins! My PC ain't no slouch, it's an Intel Core i7 machine with 8 gb DDR3 memory n more than 400 gb free space! So, there're many areas which the developer team needs to address! Also, the previous blue icon looked much more elegant than the new orange!
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I installed Avast 5 for a day and my PC took more than 20 mins to boot up!
and you've been waiting until the login screen appeared ? ;D
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@ glennthera
Well my system by comparison to yours is a slouch and my boot times are essentially the same (I tend not to use a stopwatch) for me. avast5 is streets ahead/better than 4.8, so what is going on in your system certainly isn't the norm.
You don't say what version of 5.0 you had, 5.0.418 being the latest or how you updated to avast 5.0 or what OS (with your system I suspect win7) ?
Yes, there are new and changed features, that is the point in trying to improve overall protection and yes, the interface is new, but it is far more user friendly/intuitive than 4.8. Did you not find win7 different (if that is the OS you are using) but you persevered and got used to it.
We would have loved to have tried to help resolve your problem had you given us a chance, but going back to 4.8 won't achieve anything really.
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Howdy folks! Well, I've been an Avast user n big fan of long!
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Also, the previous blue icon looked much more elegant than the new orange!
Amen!
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Wouldn't it be better if you encourage the user to try avast! the next time when the bugs are fixed?
What bugs are you talking about ???
I've installed avast! 5 on countless computers without any problems.
The only problems I've run into so far have been user errors mostly related to leaving partially installed AV on their system.
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The only problems I've run into so far have been user errors mostly related to leaving partially installed AV on their system.
Yes u are right it seems AVG, Norton, and ZoneAlarm still in system not completely removed will cause problems. I used the installer Programs found in this forum and used them. That did resolve most problems with my PC and with Avast Pro IS.
We Have been a proud user of Avast Free for many years and would not take anything for Avast Pro 5 IS. I hope i am naming this correct but i love this av and will never go to any other as long as it is in service and i am still using a PC.
One PC with XP no problems. One PC with Windows7 no problems. This PC however using XP Media Center Edition, well allot of problems but found it is not Avast. It was related to the Windows updates, and old versions of AV's that were uninstalled but not completely removed. Man what a difference that made, its like a new PC again.
Thanks to all of u on this forum for your help and guidance through many problems. I was guilty of blaming Avast at first did send DMP logs to Avast, and they did reply and answer very fast. It was just as the new build was going to be released, so i did as they said and waited and upgraded.
Wow we LOVE Avast, and Wow we love this Forum and its members
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Welcome to the forum GoneMad. Glad to know your problems are solved. :)
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Pondus
Thanks man! I appreciate your offer. But there are so many bugs, it's really easier to switch to AVG, until they fix all the stuff I've mentioned.
so why do you keep posting ? you've said it two or three times already..."Avast is crap, a shame etc... and you switch to AVG", why do you keep logging in to this site at all ???
He keeps posting because he has no life. No matter what happens some folks just have to be negative on everything on the internet. Usually it is the same guy who yes dear's his wife before she finishes what she wants to say.
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Just a quick story on avast. I work at a college, not a major one but a college. I asked the networking guy about AVAST about 4 or 5 years ago and he said he used it on his computers in the networking room. I guess school admin’s think you have to pay a lot for an AV program but my friend ran his own show in networking. Soooo me being a real smart guy figured I would try AVAST in the adjunct workroom before I put it on my machine at home. I downloaded AVAST and installed it at work. Dagone machine had the audacity to lock up. So I looked up my buddy, (networking guy) and said hey, that computer in the workroom is locked up, what gives? (didn’t tell him I installed AVAST) Next day I ask him what was up with that computer. He said some dumb sh*t installed AVAST without removing SOFOS. I said?? Well I’ll be dipped in sh*t, some people. I made sure I got rid of Norton before I installed it at home. Worked great and still does. 5 is working great too.