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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Vlk on September 22, 2003, 12:31:47 AM
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What about an anti-spam module for a new version of avast? Would you guys be interested? ;)
Vlk
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Just a personal opinion, which I am sure will not be the norm., but... No :P
I'd like a couple of other things in Avast, but prefer to leave Anti-Spam to my mail client and don't need anything else which might not 'interface' .
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yes if this anti-spam module will support both POP3 and http protocols (ISP mail account and web mail a/c like yahoo and hotmail).
But I have 2 questions:
1) will this be available at the HE? ??? ???
2) Will the program become a huge memory/resources consuming monster? ??? ???
BTW, I was testing TrendMicro Internet Security (TIS11)suite beta1 as a beta tester and it contains anti-spam module but I did not like it at all >:( >:( as it uses too much memory/resources. So, I am afraid that would be the case with Avast4.2. :'( :'(
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I tend to mistrust all-in-one packages. I like getting the best anti-virus I can find from one source, the best firewall I can find from another, etc.
However I am curious how anti-spam would be incorporated into an anti-virus program. Would it work on one of the same principles as the separate spam programs already available?
By the way; I've had no problems with 4.1. Free Cell worked on my W98SE even before the latest build (at least it appeared to be working, I don't know how to play it. I could click on cards and they'd go to squares on top anyway). After the latest update I found out that I still don't know how to play it.
Thanks for working so hard to make avast! the best!
Jarron
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i prefer avast to remain as a good AV ;D
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yeah.....I'm not one for all-in-one packages either. it tends to bloat software and hog more recources than its worth.
if you go ahead with it though....kindly allow for modules to be completely turned off as an option. I mean...completely OFF. :D
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What about an anti-spam module for a new version of avast?
Not really. Allmost all hugh Provider offers allready a Spamfilter. Even some Mailer do(like Mozilla). Improving the Malwareability is more intresting(for me).
You will not become a Norton-like Programm, will you? :)
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No, not really...
I like the idea of having layered defence...
this means 1 program as firewall, 1 Antivirus, 1 Anti trojan, 1 spyware killer, 1 scriptblocker, 1 popup blocker. etc....
Having a configuration like this, means that in a possibel infection, not all programs are shutdown by a potentional malware. And you come out defenseless :(
Like Paul Wilders says : Never put all your eggs in one basket :)
Waldo
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i don't like it
i would love a avast like a professional tool agains the virii
and not a boatware...
bye the way p2p & instant messagger for me are in vain
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My opinion: NO
Do the best for avast! as antivirus!!!
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bye the way p2p & instant messagger for me are in vain
ACK! But for me a Scriptchecker and also a Mailchecker are more or less useless, if the Resident Protection can handle that too.
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Like Paul Wilders says : Never put all your eggs in one basket :)
Waldo
cool...i like this!! ;D
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add these
the possibility to scan compressed files , for example max 2mb or 1mb (to set up) this could make resident shield more fast, it can happen to scan zipped files about 30 mb
it could freeze the system
a default button in resident shield (advanced) open/read
this for the novice!!
add some options in the global setting
like setup the interval of updater or vrdb...
or add the possibility to hide the icon or ....
the possibility to DON't load in memory provider that we don't NEED
for example if a user need only a standard shield
is in vain avast load
SCRIPT
OUTLOOK
MAIL
P2P
& instant ...
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Please keep Avast as slim as possible and concentrate on the virus/malware/worm stuff. Antispam modules are incorporated in many email clients and this would make either the Avast module or the email client module redundant.
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"ACK! But for me a Scriptchecker and also a Mailchecker are more or less useless, if the Resident Protection can handle that too."
yes agree raman
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Most users do not want avast! as an antispam :'(
But all users do not want avast! become a "SystemWorks" >:(
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Well, I personally believe that for our server based AV products, anti-spam would be a great added value.
I was not sure about the consumer products, though. The truth is that most people already have some sort of antispam solution in place, and also that an extra module would increase the size of avast a bit... However, if it could be completely deactivated.... why not?
Also, while I absolutely agree with the "multiple layers of defense" paradigm I've got to add that antispam is not really like AntiVirus or AntiTrojan etc. - simply because the objects it filters are passive (meaning that the spam does not actively try to tamper with the protection by trying to kill some processes etc. - i.e. in a way that would in any way influence the working of the rest of the security package (e.g. antivirus)).
Vlk
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Vlk,
what kind of spam-protection are you guys thinking of? Static rules like the former spamassassin had? Bayes-Filters like the new Mozilla Mail? Or a hybrid solution as in the new spamassassin?
Bye,
ts :)
BTW: I would prefer avast! being a great AV software rather than an all-in-one tool. If one can disable it totally (in the home-version too) it won't be a big problem for me though ;).
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don't really need it (and couldn't use it for some of my mail accounts: IMAP with SSL is still not supported in the Mailscanner, is it ) ?
;)
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Mmmmh! Do you need an Italian translator for it? ;)
However, I hope for it, but I hope for good antispam rules in it...And it is not easy to create that in many languages! 8)
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what kind of spam-protection are you guys thinking of? Static rules like the former spamassassin had? Bayes-Filters like the new Mozilla Mail? Or a hybrid solution as in the new spamassassin?
You kind of figured it, we were thinking of integrating the new spamassassin. I know there is a number of products that do just this but we already have all the infrastructure in place so the actual integration wouldn't IMHO be such a problem...
Vlk
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for me nobody wants this feature!!!
every prog . like opera and mail client have efficient feature to create rules
and there are tons of good free (AND LIGHT ) mail anti spam
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don't really need it (and couldn't use it for some of my mail accounts: IMAP with SSL is still not supported in the Mailscanner, is it ) ?
;)
yes....when can avast support ssl imap??....it will be cool if it does!! ;D ;D
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when can avast support ssl imap??....it will be cool if it does!! ;D ;D
Fulll ACK ..!! ;D :)
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i will go back to nod32 or other av program
avast will be a BIG CRAP soon ;) ;) ;)
alwil team look NOD32 the best av in the world!!!!
try to catch the best from the others av programs
a Great DETECTION
VERY simple
- Resident scanner
- mail scanner very easy
- automatic updater
AND STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you (alwil team) ask why nod32 is the software more sold ???
;D
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whocares
what the meaning of "Fulll ACK ..!!"
do u want more more providers? or?
what do u think about my advise in this post but in the first page?
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NOD32 the best av in the world!!!!
I am a Nod32 user, too, but we can discuss the "best av in the world" thing, if you want! Lets make it Wilders(security) like! ;)
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Hi Mantra,
ACK --> I agree with the above SSL-Wish by shgoh
and I don't need more providers, but would also have the possibility to unload/not load the unwanted providers
( I only need the basic filescanner/resident shield)
basically more of the undocumented avast.ini options, or even the provider "hacks" should be included in the GUI under some advanced button
;)
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" and I don't need more providers, but would also have the possibility to unload/not load the unwanted providers"
i agree!!
I'm bored to see so many providers.. for me total in vain
i need only a resident shield!!!!
i have an email with a antirus built in!
"or even the provider "hacks" should be included in the GUI under some advanced button"????
i did not understand!
hacks?
could u be more clear mate
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... we were thinking of integrating the new spamassassin. I know there is a number of products that do just this...
Yep exactly Vlk, so why bother and bulk out Avast.
I personally really hope you don't, but if you must please have it as an 'add-on' or 'plug-in' and not intergrated.
If you wanna do 'something', I might, ONLY MIGHT, think an added firewall be a slightly better option. But many of the same anti arguments would still apply.
How clarifying some of the previous 'wish list' items (ie have they/haven't they happened???) and start a new one. I notice that 'slow shut downs has been mentioned, but is still a niggle.
Just MHO.
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I would like avast! to be the best anti-virus program available. My concern is that adding anti-spam protection would really turn avast! into a resource hog.
Right now, just having the desktop up on my computer, avast! is using 20,000K of memory and this is with two providers terminated -- messenger and outlook. Norton NAV 2003 uses around 7,000K of memory under similar conditions and AVG-6 Free uses 1,800K of memory.
I would prefer to see avast! allow users to completely turn off components that they don't need -- or -- better yet -- be given options during installation.
Dave50
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yeah dave50 i agree wha did u type
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I would vote no. Like others mentioned, keep avast dedicated to virusses.
Peter
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by the way ,vlk why don't give us the possibility to don't upload in memory the providers
so u could do a antispam in avast
so we can decide which provider load...
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by the way ,vlk why don't give us the possibility to don't upload in memory the providers
so u could do a antispam in avast
so we can decide which provider load...
I agree with mantra ;D
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basically more of the undocumented avast.ini options, or even the provider "hacks" should be included in the GUI under some advanced button
;)
I agree with whocares...
The file avast4.ini must be documented and, more, a GUI interface is needed...
Maybe avast! is coming to be a Norton SystemWorks :'(
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Maybe avast! is coming to be a Norton SystemWorks :'(
Please NO ! My 0.2 > SystemWorks is one of the monsters that call themself > good AV's ! :'(
Real Bloatware !
Waldo
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Maybe avast! is coming to be a Norton SystemWorks :'(
Please NO ! My 0.2 > SystemWorks is one of the monsters that call themself > good AV's ! :'(
Real Bloatware !
Waldo
This is what every user of avast! thinks... Please, NO >:(
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Please nooooooooooo (http://www.wackyb.co.nz/msn/v6cry.gif). If you give antispam capabilities to Avast Antivirus, what will be the next step? A webfiltering module? (http://pics.miarroba.com/caretos/pukeface.gif) I don't want an "all in one" software I just need an antivirus solution.
Please, don't make Avast a resource hog with an installer of more than 10 Mb (http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/d/saywhat.gif)
Regards, Lito.
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No Anti-Spam module
And no firewall module while we are on the subject.
The reason why I left PC-Cillin was because it had so many things going on at once that it crashed my PC often.
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I agree with someone above.
Good AV with excellent resident shield + email scanner. I think that it is enough, because resident shield is capable catch it without email plugin too.
Please not personal firewall.
Good AV = avast! and good firewall I can have Kerio for example.
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FWIW,
I'm on the NO bandwagon as well.
I personally use Avast! -> K9 Anti-Spam ->Zone Alarm Pro
plus I occaisionally run SpyBot S&D and for the first time today TDS-3 (Trojan Detection System). I also use Google Toolbar for popup blocking (much better than ZA Pro's implementation).
With this configuration (while it is a bit quirky), I have the option of changing out any item in the chain without affecting the effectiveness of the others.
I personally would like Alwil to concentrate on improving the transparency of POP-3 and SMTP support (e.g. ZA's scanner and NAV's scanner). And improve detection of Trojans that may come in through P2P and other ports (e.g. RingZero stuff). I like (Technical...I think) would like enhanced documentation of the .ini files, and improvements in the help files.
Further, like many I feel that introducing this feature (unless via user configurable plug-in) runs the risk of bloating this magnificent program. Not to mention complicating it.
just my $.02.
Gu3
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I would prefer to see avast! allow users to completely turn off components that they don't need -- or -- better yet -- be given options during installation.
Dave50
cool..... ;D
why not let users choose which modules/providers to install during the installation of avast. that waill be awesome!! ;D ;D
and plsssss.....no norton system works plsss!!!!...that's crap!!!
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maybe vlk can unveil some info about avast4.ini
vlk everybody would like to not upload providers in memory
maybe u could unveil some secrects
if is there a tip to make it
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maybe vlk can unveil some info about avast4.ini
vlk everybody would like to not upload providers in memory
maybe u could unveil some secrects
if is there a tip to make it
any tips will be awesome!! ;D
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pity
a nice solution was renaming some files...
for example the files about script blocking or p2p or instant ,mail and so on
Ahresmai.dll
Ahresmes.dll
Ahresp2p.dll
turn off avast and rename in *.bak
this could help some one to DON't load some providers
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maybe a great could be a heuristic engine
maybe only in the pro version.....!
this could be great
a heuristic engine for on demand scanner
maybe only about OLE documents
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hi vlk,
Yes its a great idea!!
but the anti spam in avast please also in the free home edition!
shooter
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pity
a nice solution was renaming some files...
for example the files about script blocking or p2p or instant ,mail and so on
Ahresmai.dll
Ahresmes.dll
Ahresp2p.dll
turn off avast and rename in *.bak
this could help some one to DON't load some providers
Thanks mantra!
You rule! ;)
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what do u think about a heuristic engine maybe in on demand scann??!?!
or for example in macro blocker about the ole(doc) macro?!?
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pity
a nice solution was renaming some files...
for example the files about script blocking or p2p or instant ,mail and so on
Ahresmai.dll
Ahresmes.dll
Ahresp2p.dll
turn off avast and rename in *.bak
this could help some one to DON't load some providers
Thanks mantra!
You rule! ;)
Sorry, rename files gone away upon updating... This does not solve the problem... ;)
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What about an anti-spam module for a new version of avast? Would you guys be interested? ;)
Vlk
Vlk, what is the avast! position right now?
Did you give up or not? ;D
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Mu oppinion is here: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1263;start=msg6903#msg6903 .
Given your reaction we don't expect to integrate the antispam module to the consumer-line products (avast home/pro) anytime soon.
Vlk
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Mu oppinion is here: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1263;start=msg6903#msg6903 .
Given your reaction we don't expect to integrate the antispam module to the consumer-line products (avast home/pro) anytime soon.
Vlk
Dekuji (thanks) avast! ;)
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Mu oppinion is here: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1263;start=msg6903#msg6903 .
Given your reaction we don't expect to integrate the antispam module to the consumer-line products (avast home/pro) anytime soon.
Vlk
And a what's your opinion about an Avast! Firewall? Or better, an Avast! Security Suite? ::)
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And a what's your opinion about an Avast! Firewall? Or better, an Avast! Security Suite? ::)
Please, let´s run away from another modules...
Please, not avast! Suite (like SystemWorks...) >:(
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About "avast firewall"... I've said multiple times that to make a quality firewall requires certain degree of expertise and skills in this field. I'm afraid we currently posses none of above. ;) (at least not now)
Instead of making a new firewall from the scratch, the option would be to optionally bundle avast with a 3rd party quality firewall, as a separate product, of course... We're currently investigating the possibilities in this area.
Vlk
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...and I hope for Agnitum Outpost or Kerio Firewall... 8)
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...and I hope for Agnitum Outpost or Kerio Firewall... 8)
Vlk, don´t forget ZoneAlarm and Sygate Personal Firewall. ;)
Of course, get away from Symantec Firewalls ;D
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...of course! ;D
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"Yes" vote for Kerio, very good reliable fw with little system damage, (Czech product too, if I'm not mistaken).
"NO" vote for ZoneAlarm. It would be a good choice for beginners if it didn't create so many problems.
No experience with any others.
This is my opinion, but I'll bow to Technical as he's older. :) (Though I am lying about my age).
Jarron
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Yes. But no conflict with Opera M2, the email service into Opera Browser. ;)
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"Yes" vote for Kerio, very good reliable fw with little system damage, (Czech product too, if I'm not mistaken).
"NO" vote for ZoneAlarm. It would be a good choice for beginners if it didn't create so many problems.
No experience with any others.
This is my opinion, but I'll bow to Technical as he's older. :) (Though I am lying about my age).
Jarron
Zonealarm is much easier for novice users and is a wonderful firewall.