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Title: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: hectic-mmv on October 14, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
Hi all,
I'm excited to inform you about AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (build number 10.0.2203).

We have fixed issues found in RC1:

Known issues:
- Cannot delete custom scan
- Aggressive Hardened mode still catches SafeZone browsers for few installations

We are really curious about your feedback on our new feature - Home Network Security. How many of you have a default or weak password on your router?


Features already introduced in previous AVAST 2015 betas:

• GrimeFighter Free
GrimeFighter will offer free cleaning of junk files and tuning of system settings. These tasks are performed by our Zilch and Torque minions. Other minion functions remain as paid-for features.

• HTTPS scanning
Now, we are able to detect and decrypt TLS/SSL protected traffic in our Web-content filtering component. We are using our own generated certificates that are added into the Root Certificate store in Windows and also into major browsers. This feature will protect you against viruses coming through HTTPs traffic as well as adding compatibility for SPDY+HTTPS/ HTTP 2.0 traffic. You can tune/disable this feature in the settings section.

• Home Network Security
Scan your home network for vulnerabilities (wifi status, connected devices, router settings, factory passwords, etc.). This is quite a new approach as we are trying to discover potential problems not isolated on the particular device only, but in the entire network of devices you use or connect to the Internet from.

• SecureDNS (this feature is active in the paid versions only)
We are introducing a new provider which guards against unprotected DNS/DNS hijack on a router/client (including unsecured networks, public ones, etc.).

• Smart Scan
Integrated all on demand scans into one (Antivirus, Software updates, Home Network, GrimeFighter). One scan, different results and recommendations.

• AVAST NG
A hardware based virtualization solution capable of running each Windows process in standalone safe virtualized environment (VM) and fully integrated to your desktop. Each process is executed in its own instance of VM, which means totally isolated from your other applications. This feature is now powering the Avast DeepScreen, resulting in better detection. The technology will also eventually power the Sandbox and SafeZone components (although it does not now).

Note: In this beta build, not all detections are 100% operable yet, so I wouldn't recommend using the new DeepScreen for detection testing for now. It will be 100% operable in the next couple of weeks - we will certainly let you know when is the good time to start testing with your malware collections :).

Note 2: Avast NG can be installed only on physical machine, does not work in VM. It requires HW virtualization enabled.

• New Support System
Easy contact for paid users to submit a ticket with all info included automatically. Improved knowledge base for free users. Help is completely online and is more up to date.

• General bugfixing
This covers a lot of stability & performance changes in all components (but the main focus was traditionally on the network & engine components).

We would like to ask for your feedback, what is not working, what is your experience, whether do you see any performance problems,
connectivity problems, etc. There is a lot of new low-level functionality with an impact to the whole system, so we need your feedback
to tune everything for the final release. Thanks a lot!

Download locations
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_internet_security_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe

avast! cleaner:
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_clear.exe

It should be possible to install this version on top of your existing avast! installation (all settings should be preserved).

enjoy!
Michal Vanek
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 1 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 14, 2014, 07:25:32 PM
Thanks.
The subject reads - Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 1 (10.0.2203)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 1 (10.0.2203)
Post by: hectic-mmv on October 14, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Thanks.
The subject reads - Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 1 (10.0.2203)

My bad, fixed ;)
thx
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: TrueIndian on October 14, 2014, 07:27:45 PM
Is NG and dyna-gen ready yet?? Are you guys sure we will have everything to 100% potential during the final??
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 14, 2014, 07:35:23 PM
I'm wondering the same thing. Because i want to make a proper avast! comeback this time around and show it to people avast! means business again with v2015. RC2 is up so actual release is really closing in now.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: essexboy on October 14, 2014, 07:46:41 PM
Quote
We are really curious about your feedback on our new feature - Home Network Security. How many of you have a default or weak password on your router?
Unfortunately for my ISP (Sky) I am unable to change the password as if I do I will not be able to get online.  However, I do not have sharing enabled


Also there is still no NG shortcut for IE on my desktop .. Win8.1 x64 IE11
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 14, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
OK. Now where did NG go? Geez, RC2 and NG disappears.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 14, 2014, 07:48:55 PM
As far as i know those shortcuts were just for testing purposes in early builds.

@Charyb
Maybe it's automatic now, on low end systems it's automatically skipped and on normal and high end it's automatically installed (if applicable).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: TrueIndian on October 14, 2014, 07:51:47 PM
OK so now NG will only work with SSD's ?? This is getting ridiculous...What's the point of having something like this that is only working for small amount of users.And we dont even know if we would have dyna-gen in the final and what are its effects on protection with or without this NG thing?? Then NG is serious setback.Because dyna-gen must be a backup to NG at all times in case anything happens and should be equally good.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 14, 2014, 07:53:13 PM
Supposedly NG can work with other users somehow (through cloud), but i'm not sure in what way and how quickly. Even if they only have "basic" DeepScreen...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Lord_Ami on October 14, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
OK so now NG will only work with SSD's ?? This is getting ridiculous...What's the point of having something like this that is only working for small amount of users.And we dont even know if we would have dyna-gen in the final and what are its effects on protection with or without this NG thing?? Then NG is serious setback.Because dyna-gen must be a backup to NG at all times in case anything happens and should be equally good.

Seems there is no NGtool.exe after upgrade from RC1 (and restart) so yes...
Devs, did you postpone it until you solve the "resource issue" with VirtualBox? (working on your own environment)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: TrueIndian on October 14, 2014, 07:54:55 PM
Supposedly NG can work with other users somehow (through cloud), but i'm not sure in what way and how quickly. Even if they only have "basic" DeepScreen...

We still need something useful enough for the majority user base.So dyna has to be effective enough just as NG is or will be or all this is a waste of time.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 14, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
Hm, updated to RC2 and everything NG related is now gone. Can't find it in installer and can't find it in running processes (no NG process anymore). Has this been merged into main avast! process or something went south really badly?

I made the update using integrated updater...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: kenny556 on October 14, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
What happened to the DynaGen detections that where so promised in this version hmmm???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: TrueIndian on October 14, 2014, 08:05:21 PM
Well looking at avast scores off late i am loosing my nerve with avast not being consistent in test enviroment.I hope they mean serious protection with 2015 final and dyna technology and NG because i would hate to see another let down.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 14, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
That is "NOT FAIR", my pc is more than capable of running ng, I have a raid setup , just as fast as the cheapest crappy ssd. So I cant update if I want the ng?, ill be stuck on beta until avast 2016?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 14, 2014, 10:50:26 PM
Why is NG only installing on machines with SSD Drives? :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Alikhan on October 14, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Why is NG only installing on machines with SSD Drives? :)

+1.

NG was supposed to succeed Deepscreen so now what for normal HDD users?

What's happening with Dyna-Gen?

Since NG is gone for HDD users and Dyna-Gen is not known yet... what has avast! 2015 improved on in terms of detection and zero day malware?

HTTPs scanning won't make much of a difference.

To be honest to a content, I don't see much of a difference.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 14, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
I have a normal HDD here, now i need to get an SSD Drive.
(Wanted one anyway:))
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 14, 2014, 11:00:24 PM
I cant get my active licence to show up on my account, all I have is the expired one, its reall starting to annoy me now.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 14, 2014, 11:01:31 PM
Where and when did anyone from avast state the NG will only install on systems with SSD's?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 14, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
read the first page
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 14, 2014, 11:04:42 PM
read the first page


OK, thanks. I didn't see that. Just took the wind out of my sail.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 14, 2014, 11:55:01 PM
Yeah ...its totally unfair, it runs just as good on hdds. I spent days doing a fresh OS install to get ng to install properly, now its taken away from hdd users, I would like that extra protection, I have no excuses to not turn to mcafee security now, I get it for nothing every year.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: bob3160 on October 14, 2014, 11:58:52 PM
I have two complaints.
1. No more NG because I don't have an SSD drive even though the last version worked fine with NG and the extra protection it offered.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1413323511897-68273.png)
2.There has just been a major breach in Dropbox and everyone needs to change their password.
Is it really a good idea to push this product ?

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2014, 12:33:05 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1413324955103-5335.png)
Another problem still present in the latest version.
Missing Ignore option on some add-ons
Request to remove Google Play Music is obviously a mistake.


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1413325917353-41674.png)
This has been around for a very long time and still hasn't been corrected ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 15, 2014, 01:00:07 AM
Many of the GUI issues that I mentioned are still not fixed.

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Mahmudul Hasan Shohag on October 15, 2014, 01:05:15 AM
Think so this is a design bug in tray icon of Avast.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: NON on October 15, 2014, 02:38:31 AM
Thanks for the update. :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: davidtee1976 on October 15, 2014, 03:11:33 AM
Still doesn't work for Windows 10. When all other antivirus software's do. Thought with this update use would had made it work for windows 10
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: TrueIndian on October 15, 2014, 06:19:36 AM
Why is NG only installing on machines with SSD Drives? :)

+1.

NG was supposed to succeed Deepscreen so now what for normal HDD users?

What's happening with Dyna-Gen?

Since NG is gone for HDD users and Dyna-Gen is not known yet... what has avast! 2015 improved on in terms of detection and zero day malware?

HTTPs scanning won't make much of a difference.

To be honest to a content, I don't see much of a difference.

Agreed!! So what's the catch with NG here?? Why only for SSD's?? We will be loosing fair amount of protection without it.So is dyna-gen going to be as effective or better than NG.Hopefully,we will have these technologies in place.

Is this only going to be this way only in the RC 2?? Hope it is as if not we need dyna-gen to be as effective or better with or without NG.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 07:03:52 AM
Seriously, WTF!? NG only for SSD systems? From limited range of virtualization and powerful enough systems you have narrowed it down to only systems with SSD drives which means a tiny % out of 200 million users will be even able to use it. This will be yet another useless release by avast!. Well done... ::)

I have a system with friggin 18GB of RAM where i can run 4 virtualized systems in real-time with each having 4GB of dedicated memory and yet i can't use NG at all because i don't have SSD. You guys make absolutely no sense.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: MartinZ on October 15, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
Hi gyus.

NG won't be just for SSD, still working on better determination system requirements. We just don't want end up in situation, that after avast installation your computer is unusable ;-)

Browser Cleanup issues will be fixed during October.

Windows 10 support will be added in upcoming versions, definitely not in V2015 R1.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 10:01:10 AM
So this yet again means we won't get NG on a avast! 2015 release day. Do you ever actually release anything new on the actual relase day or do you just always release just a new GUI and add new stuff that actually matters half a year later? Not cool and just confirms the problem yet again that i've stated in the RC2 thread...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Spec8472 on October 15, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
Seriously, WTF!? NG only for SSD systems? From limited range of virtualization and powerful enough systems you have narrowed it down to only systems with SSD drives which means a tiny % out of 200 million users will be even able to use it. This will be yet another useless release by avast!. Well done... ::)

I have a system with friggin 18GB of RAM where i can run 4 virtualized systems in real-time with each having 4GB of dedicated memory and yet i can't use NG at all because i don't have SSD. You guys make absolutely no sense.

For good performance of NG, it is critical to have a system disk with good random read performance. In final version, there will be no hard SSD condition, but rather a 16kB random read performance requirement (2 MB/s for example). Also it will be possible to install NG through installer even if disk performance condition isn't met.

It is possible to check the performance of system volume by "winsat disk -ran -read -drive c" command.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 11:27:31 AM
3,84 MB/s with my HDD (WD Caviar Black 2TB).

Good to hear it won't be blocked entirely, because that would be really stupid.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: hectic-mmv on October 15, 2014, 11:29:45 AM
So this yet again means we won't get NG on a avast! 2015 release day. Do you ever actually release anything new on the actual relase day or do you just always release just a new GUI and add new stuff that actually matters half a year later? Not cool and just confirms the problem yet again that i've stated in the RC2 thread...

- you will get NG on avast! 2015 release day
- new release contains more improvements Home Network Securit, SecureDNS, https scanning
- your complains in another thread are under investigation
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 11:34:57 AM
I know i sound totally negative lately and all, but every such news really drags me straight down to the bottom, that's why i express my concerns so "harshly". I just wish a 2015 release will be a properly punchy one, so people get more faith into avast! capabilities. That's all.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 15, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
1.03 MBs on my 500 GB Hitachi HTS545050A7E380 HDD Drive.

Now we know whats going on with NG.

But what about Dyna-Gen, is it ready yet, and when will it come in? :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: AndreaVr on October 15, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
I must point out that there a problem when you run intelligent scanning !! basically says that there are problems inside the network and then running a scan on the targeted network ok
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Asyn on October 15, 2014, 11:58:54 AM
I must point out that there a problem when you run intelligent scanning !! basically says that there are problems inside the network and then running a scan on the targeted network ok
Confimed, same has been reported in the German section.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: AndreaVr on October 15, 2014, 12:04:23 PM
I must point out that there a problem when you run intelligent scanning !! basically says that there are problems inside the network and then running a scan on the targeted network ok
Confimed, same has been reported in the German section.

I attach the photo below in sequence after clicking solve everything:

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Vlk on October 15, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
To reply to your questions regarding the improved detection capabilities, all of these are supposed to be enabled till the end of this week.
That is, starting early next week, you should see a significant pop in detection rates from Avast (namely Avast 2015).


DynaGen is just one of the things that will get enabled. There is at least two more similar things that have been in the pipeline for a while but were not enabled until A2015.

And regarding NG, I think it's been communicated very poorly here so far. Let me try to fix that. In a nutshell, NG is an underlying technology that you shouldn't really have to worry about. It replaces the old DeepScreen sandbox on machines that can handle it. On other machines, it doesn't -- but that's not a huge issue because all the DeepScreen results are now stored in the cloud in real time, so even if your machine is not NG-capable, chances are that some other Avast user, with a NG-capable machine, has already seen your file before. The SSD requirement will not be there in the final version, but we've put it there for now to get some additional telemetry data.

The NG browsers were there as a test. To be honest with you, we saw that the technology is not quite ready yet to be completely rolled out in such a mode (e.g. for general purpose browsing) and we still have quite some work to get there. This will be our goal for the upcoming months.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: jrace on October 15, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
I must point out that there a problem when you run intelligent scanning !! basically says that there are problems inside the network and then running a scan on the targeted network ok

...exactly the same behaviour here!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Dwarden on October 15, 2014, 02:06:37 PM
what about systems which have multiple HDD and SSD ?
can't you simply determine/ask for the volume usable for the NG operations ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: zerotox on October 15, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Has anyone else noticed WMI (windows management instrumentation) using constantly CPU after Avast installation? After I restart the WMI service, it is repeated again on next computer restart. I'm on Windows 8.1 pro 32 bit.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
Does fiddling with System Restore (VSS) later when avast! is already installed and has generated NG image affecting the functionality of NG or it is only needed during image creation and doesn't matter anymore later?

EDIT:
Also, is anyone else experiencing flaky account panel functionality? It often starts loading, i see the loading circle animation but it never realyl opens that. When i wanted to remove an inactive system from it, clicking Settings button did nothing at all.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: hectic-mmv on October 15, 2014, 03:12:18 PM
what about systems which have multiple HDD and SSD ?
can't you simply determine/ask for the volume usable for the NG operations ?

It will be enabled in RC3 again. We will not install NG just on slow disks. Decision will be made during installation.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 03:22:26 PM
So, if user buys the SSD and clones the partitions from HDD, they'll have to re-install avast! to get this feature enabled. People do this for SSD's quite often, but not for faster HDD's. For those they often install from new.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: YLAP on October 15, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
It will be enabled in RC3 again. We will not install NG just on slow disks. Decision will be made during installation.

What do you mean saying "slow disks"? More details please :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Asyn on October 15, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
What do you mean saying "slow disks"? More details please :)
See: Reply #34
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: YLAP on October 15, 2014, 03:55:03 PM
See: Reply #34

Thanks, my mistake. Missed that post :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Asyn on October 15, 2014, 03:59:52 PM
See: Reply #34
Thanks, my mistake. Missed that post :)
NP pal. :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Superman1975 on October 15, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Does anyone notice that when logging on to your user account the Avast tray icon takes kind of long to appear with Avast 2015?

Pretty sure it was much faster with Avast 2014.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
Does anyone notice that when logging on to your user account the Avast tray icon takes kind of long to appear with Avast 2015?

Pretty sure it was much faster with Avast 2014.

No appreciable difference on this system (see signature).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
I've had a certain time where system sort of stalled with all the system trey icons loaded but didn't load others for some reason. Unfortunately i did no manage to confirm what was the cause of it. Re-installing avast! 2015 beta once with later cleaning with uninstall utility didn't help. So i made a full cleanup by manually cleaning registry with old free JV16 PowerTools and then passes of Wise Disk and Registry tools, defrag of my system partition and now it boots instantly even with avast! 2015 installed. So it was either a conflict or something else. But works fine with it now so it's most likely not avast!'s direct fault.

I suggest you uninstall avast! and observe the boot time. If things don't change, then it's not avast!.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 15, 2014, 06:55:43 PM
I really don't like you (avast) turning on system protection and creating a restore point when I have it turned off and have my own plan in place. So, please don't.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Para-Noid on October 15, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
Now that Grimefighter is included in the free version I have one question which has been asked many times before.
It shows it found issues but what are they?  ??? There is no listing of anything it found.  ???
I'm not going to give blind trust to anything. Please provide a detailed list of issues. Until that
happens I'm not going to trust Grimefighter at all. Period.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 15, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
I really don't like you (avast) turning on system protection and creating a restore point when I have it turned off and have my own plan in place. So, please don't.

They will eventually change that, but currently using Volume Shadow Service is the fastest and easiest way. Though i'm not sure if they have to store the image permanently or not. I fiddled once with it after the image was crated so i'm not sure if NG was operational after that (if you for example clear all restore points).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2014, 07:44:57 PM
I really don't like you (avast) turning on system protection and creating a restore point when I have it turned off and have my own plan in place. So, please don't.


Not seeing that on this XP Pro system (so wouldn't have NG, if that is the culprit) - I have had system restore disabled on all hard disks for more years than I care to remember and that is the way it still is.

I too prefer to have my own backup and recovery function.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 16, 2014, 12:15:55 AM
I just installed the free version and I think the GUI looks very nice. I haven't read of anyone complaining about it being too light or too dark or anything else of the sort. I guess this opens the door, but anyway.


Good job on this!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: irongod on October 16, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
 :-\



To me these RCs are still BETAs cause functionalities are still going in/out and several macro-functionalities (as I got following this forum) are still not mature enough... thus feels like 1year ago: mid October, new version out (personally felt it was rushed!) and lot of problems still there!

at the end of the day I do not care whether is called BETA or RC just it has to work when release as final, but having RCs where just little tweaks are necessary increases the users confidence and trust...  ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Charyb on October 16, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
It would be nice if the problems and fixes were acknowledged. Some of the same errors in RC1 are still in RC2. Do we need to report these same problems all over again?

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 16, 2014, 04:24:12 PM
RC3 is planned and considering how well it otherwise works, it's not that rushed... It has been in public beta since august after all and NG has been in testing pretty much since last year.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DavidR on October 16, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
It would be nice if the problems and fixes were acknowledged. Some of the same errors in RC1 are still in RC2. Do we need to report these same problems all over again?


Problems that have been reported from early beta to RC2 - haven't been acknowledged much less resolved.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
Thanks, this seems to be working well:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1413476181274-33539.png)
The auto redirect to the update however did not work.
I needed to do the update manually in the usual "about Chrome" manner.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 16, 2014, 06:51:30 PM
Is 7-zip still being updated to a BETA version?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Chris Thomas on October 16, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
Will AVAST NG reduce the life of SSD?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 16, 2014, 08:19:34 PM
Us HDD users would like NG back, im sure we all would sign a petition to prove we want it. Hey wtf ...all my karma points have gone, I had 513 now I have 28
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 16, 2014, 08:23:28 PM
NG will be back with RC3...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DavidR on October 16, 2014, 08:30:03 PM
Us HDD users would like NG back, im sure we all would sign a petition to prove we want it. Hey wtf ...all my karma points have gone, I had 513 now I have 28

If you read these topics you will already see that it will be available for HDDs in a later build - There will be a prerequisite that your HDD meets a speed test, also mentioned.

Who cares about Karma points (8 to 513 to 5 to 208) - I have never felt gimmicks like these are required in a security based application.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Para-Noid on October 16, 2014, 08:34:21 PM
A petition would prove worthless. I wouldn't worry too much about "karma points"
until the final version. "Karma Points" will be activated in a later release.

See https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156508.msg1133699#msg1133699
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: irongod on October 16, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
RC3 is planned and considering how well it otherwise works, it's not that rushed... It has been in public beta since august after all and NG has been in testing pretty much since last year.

 :-\ hope so... it would be "quite" bad for Avast whether the v2015 launch xp would be the same as v2014 in terms of improvements ans stability (v2014 that - btw - was claimed to have had the longest beta period in the Avast product history up to last year!) ...  Avast should be extremely carefully with the launch better 2 extra betas and RCs with 1 month delay rather than unstable and uncomplete product! ...errare humanum est, diabolicum perseverare!  ;D
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: RejZoR on October 17, 2014, 02:43:47 AM
Does HTTPS scanning gives avast! ability to prevent exploits like "Poodle" or in other words, how well is this part designed to prevent it from avast!'s end since it's inserting its own certificate and secure connection in between the browser and internet. Is the mechanism strenghtened and secured more than browser or not? It certainly gives avast! guys ability to control this part now that HTPS scanning is done as well...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: gordon451 on October 17, 2014, 02:05:27 PM

For good performance of NG, it is critical to have a system disk with good random read performance. In final version, there will be no hard SSD condition, but rather a 16kB random read performance requirement (2 MB/s for example). Also it will be possible to install NG through installer even if disk performance condition isn't met.

It is possible to check the performance of system volume by "winsat disk -ran -read -drive c" command.

Code: [Select]
C:\>winsat disk -ran -read -drive c
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -drive c'
> Run Time 00:00:09.52
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.77 MB/s          4.1
> Total Run Time 00:00:10.62

Well there goes my WD5000AZRX Caviar Green  :(

Gordon.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: irongod on October 17, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
So... considering the supposed "recommended limits" only SSDs and high perf new HDs (top end) will be able to manage the NG!  :-[

To me this means that this functionality is not thought for normal users that have 1-3 years aged mid range PCs, but only for entusiasts (please correct me if I am wrong, since I have not tested it yet...). Which was the impact on performance wrt v8/9 on office oriented PCs?  ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: MartinZ on October 17, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Thanks, this seems to be working well:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1413476181274-33539.png)
The auto redirect to the update however did not work.
I needed to do the update manually in the usual "about Chrome" manner.

Thanks Bob,
we are aware of this issue. It was caused by some change in Google Update, which requires UAC, and we cannot do it automatically ;-(
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: boe323 on October 17, 2014, 04:44:27 PM

For good performance of NG, it is critical to have a system disk with good random read performance. In final version, there will be no hard SSD condition, but rather a 16kB random read performance requirement (2 MB/s for example). Also it will be possible to install NG through installer even if disk performance condition isn't met.

It is possible to check the performance of system volume by "winsat disk -ran -read -drive c" command.

Code: [Select]
C:\>winsat disk -ran -read -drive c
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -drive c'
> Run Time 00:00:09.52
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.77 MB/s          4.1
> Total Run Time 00:00:10.62

Well there goes my WD5000AZRX Caviar Green  :(

Gordon.
I should be fast enough then ?C:\Windows\system32>winsat disk -ran -read -drive c
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -drive c'
> Run Time 00:00:05.94
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       2.90 MB/s          4.6
> Total Run Time 00:00:06.33

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: CraigB on October 17, 2014, 04:55:37 PM
Hopefully it's fast enough to run NG, big difference between that and my SSD below

C:\WINDOWS\system32>winsat disk -ran -read -drive c
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Running: Feature Enumeration ''
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> Running: Storage Assessment '-ran -read -drive c'
> Run Time 00:00:00.13
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       461.30 MB/s          8.2
> Total Run Time 00:00:00.48
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: propheticus on October 17, 2014, 05:09:38 PM
I've got an SSD as C: drive and here NG has fanished as well. So even having an SSD is not a guarantee it seems.

<ModeFlags friendlyName="Random Read">0x01000002</ModeFlags>
<IoSize units="bytes">16384</IoSize>
<ZoneStart units="bytes">0x0021000200</ZoneStart>
<ZoneEnd units="bytes">0x3b9e600200</ZoneEnd>
<Throughput units="mbs">392.73</Throughput>
<IssueTime units="us">0.0396</IssueTime>

392MB/s 16KB random read  should be enough...right?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Dumi86 on October 17, 2014, 05:35:08 PM
There is information already,that when his definitive appearance is expected ?  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: CraigB on October 17, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
There is information already,that when his definitive appearance is expected ?  :)
You keep asking the same question and the answer is always the same " there is no set release date " when it's released you'll see it posted here on the forum.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Dumi86 on October 17, 2014, 07:27:33 PM
Ok Thanks :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Toco on October 17, 2014, 11:18:53 PM
Is it final release?
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/avast2015final.1413580664.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/avast2015final.1413580664.png)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: bob3160 on October 17, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Is it final release?
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/avast2015final.1413580664.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/avast2015final.1413580664.png)
As already mentioned, it's a Release Candidate.
It is not a final release.
(Since I don't understand your language, I also can't tell what the words are on your screenshot.)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DJBone on October 17, 2014, 11:26:12 PM
There is a new version 10.0.2204

DJBone
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: DavidR on October 17, 2014, 11:49:41 PM
Is it final release?
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/avast2015final.1413580664.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/avast2015final.1413580664.png)
As already mentioned, it's a Release Candidate.
It is not a final release.
(Since I don't understand your language, I also can't tell what the words are on your screenshot.)


You don't need to know the language, the avastUI clearly shows Avast 2015 (no beta on that page) and the about avast window below that shows 10.0.2024. Mind you My avastUI home page doesn't show beta on it either - but my about avast shows 10.0.2023.

Certainly strange considering we were/are expecting an RC3.

So this looks very like it is a Regular

Now see the new topic indicating a new RC3 build https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=157166.0 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=157166.0).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Release Candidate 2 (10.0.2203)
Post by: Staticguy on October 17, 2014, 11:52:22 PM
Is it final release?
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/avast2015final.1413580664.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/avast2015final.1413580664.png)
As already mentioned, it's a Release Candidate.
It is not a final release.
(Since I don't understand your language, I also can't tell what the words are on your screenshot.)


You don't need to know the language, the avastUI clearly shows Avast 2015 (no beta on that page) and the about avast window below that shows 10.0.2024. Mind you My avastUI home page doesn't show beta on it either - but my about avast shows 10.0.2023.

Certainly strange considering we were/are expecting an RC3.

So this looks very like it is a Regular

This is RC3 not the final release. https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=157166.0