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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Beta - Avast => Topic started by: hectic-mmv on January 21, 2016, 03:50:39 PM
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Hello,
we have just released new beta version 2016.11.1.2249.
Major changes:
- for Win8+ replacement of Firewall AswNdis driver by new driver - AswNetSec.sys based on WFP
- all binaries are now signed according to new MS security recommendations
-- http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/32288.windows-enforcement-of-authenticode-code-signing-and-timestamping.aspx
--If you see any problems with installation or not working Firewall after update, please report to us.
- improved DeepScreen (NG) performance
- "Improved OpenVPN connection method for SecureLine VPN. Connection setup should be 2x faster. Please try to connect and give us your feedback"
Find installers here:
- https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0
thanks,
Avast Team
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Thanks for creating a new topic this time :)
Greetz, Red.
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I hope youre gonna improve the detection and performance of DeepScreen (NG) much further, same for your cloud backend, phishing protection and hopefully the HIPS improvement will come soon :)
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Thanks for creating a new topic this time :)
Greetz, Red.
We would like to release beta once per week, what whould you prefer, 1 post for each beta or 1 post when beta1 for release is out and continue posting into this post until release?
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Thanks for creating a new topic this time :)
Greetz, Red.
Hurraa!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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We would like to release beta once per week, what whould you prefer, 1 post for each beta or 1 post when beta1 for release is out and continue posting into this post until release?
In my opinion both are good solutions. Only one suggestion: in case you decide to keep one post for n betas up to the RC, I think it's better if the post title reports the current release number .2xxx that is changed everytime a new beta is added
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We would like to release beta once per week, what whould you prefer, 1 post for each beta or 1 post when beta1 for release is out and continue posting into this post until release?
In my opinion both are good solutions. Only one suggestion: in case you decide to keep one post for n betas up to the RC, I think it's better if the post title reports the current release number .2xxx that is changed everytime a new beta is added
Personally I feel it should be a new topic for each new beta release.
Simply changing the beta topic, doesn't change the previous posts Title only subsequent posts Title. Also any previous issues in a beta would still be in the now current beta version. I think this could lead to confusion, not to mention the topic posts could soon get very big, making it hard to navigate and people aren't really going to read the whole topic to catch up to where we are..
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I think ideal would be read-only sticky with the on-going changelog (updated with new ones)
and then new thread per each new beta
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Personally I feel it should be a new topic for each new beta release.
+1
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I think ideal would be read-only sticky with the on-going changelog (updated with new ones)
and then new thread per each new beta
Not a bad idea : It would be easier to keep track on what has been changed/fixed earlier.
Greetz, Red.
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Is the new firewall driver also used for anything else (Web Shield etc) or just for actual firewall?
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New driver is part of firewall only. It is not related to webshield etc.
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Why did avast! beta installer offer "avast Virtual Machines" on my crappy laptop but didn't on my powerhouse PC with Core i7 5820K and 32GB RAM?
Same thing I've noticed with stable builds. I just don't have avast! VM, the NG version of DeepScreen. And I have all virtualization enabled in BIOS for my CPU. Virtualization and that VT-x or whatever it is.
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Hi Rejzor, and what aboud disks? SSDs on laptop or desktop?
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Yeah Noticed even on my newer System, AMD FX 8310 8 core processor, Virtulization says Enabled, on Windows 10 Home 64bit, yet don't even have Secure Virtual Machines even listed when I installed Avast on this newer System. Standard 7200RPm 2tb hard drive, not SSD as yet, supports Virtulization, task manager shows enabled
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Hi Rejzor, and what aboud disks? SSDs on laptop or desktop?
Laptop has SSD, but it's so stupendously slow due to crappy CPU it just makes no sense.
PC on the other hand has a speedy 2TB 7200RPM HDD with a M.2 AHCI SSD cache (using PrimoCache software). Essentially what I have is SSHD.
I did notice that Windows Resource Monitor doesn't show any Read activity (it's just blank) for disk. It doesn't list apps and how much disk reading they are doing. Could this be the reason why avast! thinks my disk is too slow and refuses to activate Secure Virtual Machines? Apparently has something to do with how PrimoCache hooks in between HDD and SSD to form a SSHD "array".
Why can't we just have a damn override for this thing so I can manually enable it and be done with it forever? I'm tired of this thing disabling itself because its detection mechanism seems wonky or doesn't predict scenarios like I have.
PrimoCache:
https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/primo-cache/
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Same here have not had NG for nearly 6 months
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ditto!
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They've fixed this long ago and apparently broke it again. And it used to work just fine on my HDD.
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Hi guys, (atm) you need a SSD for NG to work, afaik.
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Well just got my newer Asus Desktop, AMD 8 Core system, so due to seal (warranty stickers on the side) not planning to do any hardware upgrades for a year--but January 2017 I so plan to add SSD drive, and convert this current 2tb main hard drive to Data only drive. Will be very first SSD into any PC then
Avast running well though, and everything else with this newer system
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Hi guys, (atm) you need a SSD for NG to work, afaik.
No. Few months ago it was very fast HDD or SSD. Then they just silently flipped it without telling to anyone. My HDD does random 4K at 3MB/s. Not SSD level but plenty fast. NG always worked perfectly fine on my old system. This new one is even faster and I can't use NG. It's just silly.
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Hi guys, (atm) you need a SSD for NG to work, afaik.
No. [...]
The devs will correct me, if I'm wrong. ;)
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my DNS bug is still unfixed https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179243.msg1273434#msg1273434
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Sorry, I didn't add this to release notes
- "Improved OpenVPN connection method for SecureLine VPN. Connection setup should be 2x faster. Please try to connect and give us your feedback"
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Just to add a bit to the above comment, everyone who installs the beta build gets a 7-day trial license for SecureLine. Would be great if you can try connecting to various locations and share your feedback. The old method of using OpenVPN sometimes led to connection setup taking about 12-15 seconds. New method should cut that in half.
thanks,
Davidek
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Sorry, I didn't add this to release notes
- "Improved OpenVPN connection method for SecureLine VPN. Connection setup should be 2x faster. Please try to connect and give us your feedback"
How is this "Improvement" realized in the Stand Alone Version?
I have not received any update to my Secureline installation
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Can I get a straight answer about NG already? At first it worked on everything, then they made it to run only on fastest HDD's (which I have) and then they broke it again and now they don't even want to answer it. And I had avast! installed on my system for half a year thinking I had NG working where in fact it was just gone because someone decided my system all of a sudden isn't fast enough anymore...
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Can I get a straight answer about NG already? At first it worked on everything, then they made it to run only on fastest HDD's (which I have) and then they broke it again and now they don't even want to answer it. And I had avast! installed on my system for half a year thinking I had NG working where in fact it was just gone because someone decided my system all of a sudden isn't fast enough anymore...
There certainly needs to be a specification (system requirement) published somewhere, preferably in the forums (possibly a sticky) or in the avast help function. That way there is no confusion as there is right now and for some considerable time.
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Or just adding a bloody switch with a disclaimer so you can force enable it on your own. I know my system can handle it, I want to use the darn thing. Not being defined by an algorithm tuned to serve Average Joe's crappy computers.
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Pretty Sure my Newest Desktop Can Handle NG now, I know my old one couldn't, but this one is AMD FX 8 Core Processor, AMD-V Supported and enabled, and all kinds of other Instruction support, hard drive should be fast enough I hope, but I have no way of knowing right now why it's not offered to even install on Windows 10 Home 64bit.
I kept Avast installed on this newest PC since I really enjoy using Avast
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I have a 6 core system (with 12 threads) running at 4.5GHz, 32GB of RAM, fast HDD with hybrid support from a M.2 AHCI 128GB SSD cache and NG can't run on it.
But there I have a crappy laptop with AMD E-450 dual core running at 1.6GHz, 8GB RAM and Crucial M4 128GB SSD and it can run NG even though it can barely run a browser? Lol? It just makes no sense.
Before all this I had quad core with 8 threads, running at 4GHz, 18GB of RAM, same speedy HDD without any SSD cache. Guess what. NG worked just fine.
avast team decisions just don't make any sense sometimes. And that "sometimes" is quite often lately...
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Yeah NG was running on a month ago or so on my Little Atom PC LOL, barely could even open a browser, Intel Atom (Single Core) 1.8ghz, 2gb of ram, and 160gb Serial ata hard drive. I don't know now if it would offer it if I did a add/remove programs, change, and such. But over a month ago did notice it was running on that one.
my Old System was an HP P6-2133W, AMD APU Desktop 2.20ghz, Quad Core, Hitach 1tb hard drive 7200rpm, 8gb of ram, and AMD Radeon 6530D.
Newer PC Asus AMD FX 8310 (8 Core Processor) 8gb of ram, AMD Radeon R7 2gb, Toshiba 7200RPM 2tb hard drive
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And like always, no reply... ::)
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Sorry, I didn't add this to release notes
- "Improved OpenVPN connection method for SecureLine VPN. Connection setup should be 2x faster. Please try to connect and give us your feedback"
How is this "Improvement" realized in the Stand Alone Version?
I have not received any update to my Secureline installation
Might I also get a response to my inquiry.
Is the same research and development applied to the Stand alone version as this HP laptop came with Secureline pre-installed from factory and a 30 Trial available if desired.
As this laptop does not have Avast security installed, I'm interested in knowing how/when any improvements listed in this beta will be applied to the stand alone version of Avast Secureline.
Thnx in advance :)
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Update: Version 11.1.2251 released:
change log:
- Added toaster informing user about inserting the signature into emails
- Improved experienced with opening tutorial after installation
- Final stabilization fixes before release
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NG. Can someone answer the damn thing? This is ridiculous.
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NG. Can someone answer the damn thing? This is ridiculous.
+1.
It's like we're just getting ignored regarding any questions towards it.
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Update: Version 11.1.2251 released:
change log:
- Added toaster informing user about inserting the signature into emails
- Improved experienced with opening tutorial after installation
- Final stabilization fixes before release
In the future would you please start a new topic each time a new release takes place?
Beta, RC or, Final Release.
Is NG working now? Uh...No! At least it doesn't show up in Task Manager anywhere. ???
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The USER and DEVELOPER relation we had a decade ago with avast! is now entirely gone. It just doesn't exist anymore...
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Agrees, before got good replys back when had questions on specific features, no word if NG isn't in the current builds at all, if it's not triggering for some reason, absolutely nothing..
I still like Avast, and will continue using it and Mobile version on Android Phone, but doesn't really help folks deteremine if the feature is failing for some reason, not there in first place, or what. Beta build running well on XP Laptop thus far, so happy on that part, just wish I knew why NG isn't running on Desktop, Secureable tester from GRC.com, showed Yes on 64bit, Yes on Hardware Dep and Virtulaization, tried to find it in my Asus bios earlier to make sure Hardware Virtulization was on, but couldn't find it
(Model is Asus M52BC)
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And now NG seems to be gone even for the laptop. This is just stupid. It's like having a super advanced airbag protection in a car that just decides to randomly not even be in the car... Like WTF!?
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And now NG seems to be gone even for the laptop. This is just stupid. It's like having a super advanced airbag protection in a car that just decides to randomly not even be in the car... Like WTF!?
@RejZoR Avast is still having problems and the NG is not not resolved, what is going on in Avast backyard and I have no idea.
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I don't understand how they expect users to rely on their solution when a component that I consider as one of the most important in avast! just randomly decides not to work at all. Because reasons. I want a predictable solution that works consistently, not when it decides to work fully and give me 100% protection it can offer and then the other times when it offers me just 60% of what it can actually do. It's ridiculous. C'mon avast! team, get your s**t together.
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I don't understand how they expect users to rely on their solution when a component that I consider as one of the most important in avast! just randomly decides not to work at all. Because reasons. I want a predictable solution that works consistently, not when it decides to work fully and give me 100% protection it can offer and then the other times when it offers me just 60% of what it can actually do. It's ridiculous. C'mon avast! team, get your s**t together.
@RejZoR all I can say is get yourself on the plane and fly over to the New Avast head office and this is the only way you can give them a wake-up call, either way I don't think their going to listen from via Avast Forum when they might have too much on their hands I guess but what can you do and you can always borrow my shotgun ;)
Cheers ;)
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It's just sad that we've come from situations where I could point at a feature in avast! and say "My idea/suggestion made this happen." to making suggestions and questions on forum that don't even get answered anymore. Blimey.
If avast! was a "family" company 10+ years ago, it's just another faceless corporation now. And that really saddens me.
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It's just sad that we've come from situations where I could point at a feature in avast! and say "My idea/suggestion made this happen." to making suggestions and questions on forum that don't even get answered anymore. Blimey.
If avast! was a "family" company 10+ years ago, it's just another faceless corporation now. And that really saddens me.
@RejZoR I really hate to say this IF you think about it in a common sense point of view, 10+ years is over now and I believe they already move on now and just maybe the old staff might be gone now all the ideas by the original people may have move on with their lives now. Think about Outpost Pro from a point of view they've already move on, and I believe this is what their doing to you now they've move on from you when not listening basically it's just common sense really is all I'm saying.
Maybe you should move on now you can't win.
Edit:- Welcome to the real world RejZoR and this why Masons don't believe in politician any more, just like another faceless corporation.
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I don't think people changed. Most of the original staff is still there, especially the most critical ones like Vlk, igor and the entire old team. What really changed imo is the pressure from the top, the investors. Still, that shouldn't be an excuse to have an innovative tech (NG) broken.
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When this blue screened my machine I went back to the stable release.
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I'm with RejZoR. Why have a big lead-in about NG saying it's the big thing in protection by using the built-in
virtual technology in today's computers and not have it work as advertised?
It seems to me the true meaning on NG is not "Next Generation" but "No Good" technology.
Maybe avast should change the acronym to "MIWWS" as in "Maybe It Will Work Someday".
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Whilst I either can't get or don't want NG on both systems, one my XP system (so no hope there) and the other, my little netbook (where I don't want it as it is resource challenged), but in the very early days avast installed it twice on that.
If NG has all the potential of being great (so it was stated when first muted), yet it doesn't seem to be getting installed, what the hell is the point.
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Sorry, I didn't add this to release notes
- "Improved OpenVPN connection method for SecureLine VPN. Connection setup should be 2x faster. Please try to connect and give us your feedback"
How is this "Improvement" realized in the Stand Alone Version?
I have not received any update to my Secureline installation
Might I also get a response to my inquiry.
Is the same research and development applied to the Stand alone version as this HP laptop came with Secureline pre-installed from factory and a 30 Trial available if desired.
As this laptop does not have Avast security installed, I'm interested in knowing how/when any improvements listed in this beta will be applied to the stand alone version of Avast Secureline.
Thnx in advance :)
It's sad, even when you want to support the product/Service by PAYING $$$$$ there is no response to my inquiries!
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Hello RejZoR,
I am really sorry to see your desperation in this thread. I don't really know why someone from the NG team didn't comment on the topic earlier, especially since they've listened to your feedback.
I've talked to them today and have found out that based on your suggestion the team added the option to manually select NG even on computers that don't meet the disk requirements (such as your's). This should be available in the next build. Please wait for the update, then go to the Custom Setup and install the NG component if you want it.
Lukas.
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Heck when I got my newer AMD 8 Core System in early January I was hoping to be able to finally use NG, as I think this machine supports it lol, or hope it does lol, Goes to look at NG Requirements while I'm bored and not doing much lol.
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Thanks. I've also found another bizarre thing which was with the final build, but since we're talking NG, I'll drop it here.
I've re-installed laptop with Win10, installed current final build of avast!, unchecked EVERYTHING except basic 3 shields. I've unchecked even Secure Virtual Machine. But when avast! started, Secure VM was available in menu and also checked. It's like my installation option was ignored. Hm.
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may someone from Avast please comment about the issue with DNS resolve which cease to work ?
I wrote several threads,
reported it in 2 stable and N beta versions, I noticed on the forums there was like 5+ other topics with users reporting it too
yet absolute silence even in this very same thread
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Hello RejZoR,
I am really sorry to see your desperation in this thread. I don't really know why someone from the NG team didn't comment on the topic earlier, especially since they've listened to your feedback.
I've talked to them today and have found out that based on your suggestion the team added the option to manually select NG even on computers that don't meet the disk requirements (such as your's). This should be available in the next build. Please wait for the update, then go to the Custom Setup and install the NG component if you want it.
Lukas.
Thanks! Anxious to see! RR
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Ok, got PM from avast! team member regarding NG. They are re-enabling override setting for NG so anyone can enable it by hand, but they'll still utilize disk speed detection for initial installation so casual users won't be affected. As far as I understand it, they already re-enabled this for this beta build and it'll be in effect for then release build as well.
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still wish someone would state exactly what are the requirements for ng, then we would all know exactly how to proceed. more memory? faster hdd? etc.
thanks in advance for response
skinnypops
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When this blue screened my machine I went back to the stable release.
Hi GTX66 :)
With a BSOD it would be helpfull if you submit a support file using the Avast Support Tool https://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB33
- In step 7 select "Full dumps".
- Don't submit a ticket, but post the Support Package File ID here in the Beta forum.
Greetz, Red.
Btw. these instructions should be added to the Beta testing - Overview https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0
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Long BETA this time :)
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Long BETA this time :)
Final version is out already. ;)
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=182468.0
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Thanks, missed that :)
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You're welcome pal. :)
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We would like to release beta once per week
What happened with this idea :-\
Greetz, Red.
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We would like to release beta once per week
What happened with this idea :-\
Greetz, Red.
That presumably is only when there is a beta version in testing.
This topic has also covered a few beta versions so there is certainly confusion as to which beta it was at any given time.
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Mmm ...
It could also be understanded as a continious Beta testing I think :-\
Greetz, Red.