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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Beta - Avast => Topic started by: petr.chytil on February 03, 2017, 10:35:28 PM
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Hi all testers,
we had a busy week filled with bugfixing. All critical issues should be resolved now. We know about few UI glitches, but otherwise, the build is a final release candidate. So please, give it a hard time and try to break it!
What's new:
- Generally UI stabilization improvements
- Wifi inspector - fixed most UI glitches
- More than 100 fixes and improvements
- Translations finished
Download links:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0
Known issues:
- Avast account is turned of. Will be enabled later as it allows new UI mechanism.
- Notification counter does not change when clearing notifications.
- Vulnerability details merged together in wifi inspector.
- Boot time scan installation progress bar never finishes.
- Under some circumstances creating rescue disk does not work
- Few texts are missing its translations
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Thanks for the update! Everything went smooth.
* Right click - Update still opens Main UI
* I don't like to see what's in attachment :/ If this is going to happen month-by-month, it's... bad.
Love the new Settings font and buttons. So vibrant and good to read :)
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Popup windows for component settings are still too big for my screen getting cut off behind the taskbar on my screen so i cant reach OK and cancel by mouse..........
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I like the changes to the GUI, although it's still loading ridiculously slow and it always seems to load elements in tiles which makes it feel really awkward, almost like trying to play most demanding game on a very low end graphic card.
But don't you think the Known issues are rather significant? Especially the notifications counter and a dud boot time scan?
Oh, and browser extension for Firefox 64bit is STILL broken. How can this be an RC if not even basics work as they should?
EDIT:
Btw, has occasionally glitched out trey icon amoeba animation fixed now?
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RejZoR,
we are definitely going to fix more issues in the UI before the final release. Moreover, fixing similar issues will be much more easy for us with the new UI and its update channel.
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There are some welcome improvements in the UI for sure but it is still slow to load.
Assuming the known issues are fixed for the final release, it should go well.
- I don't see the AOS plugin issue mentioned?
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There are some welcome improvements in the UI for sure but it is still slow to load.
Assuming the known issues are fixed for the final release, it should go well.
- I don't see the AOS plugin issue mentioned?
Ali, check Slack, I've posted you the guide how to install AOS to Firefox 64bit.
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Tray icon amoeba animation is still having spasms :( I love that little moving orange blob down there, but this is driving my OCD insane.
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hey rejzor interesting for me this newest beta loads the ui super fast i see only a VERY slight delay now. this version for some reason is working FAR better then the previous one. i was having major slowdowns with certain pages like yahoo and you tube with videos stuttering etc and now i dont see these issues. i am liking all changes made so far, i also would hope to see it a bit more refined.
sitting here testing it trying to overload it and its working very very well, while drinking some nice czech beer i found here in the usa ;D 8) finally have a couple hours since we got back to myself, ive been crazy crazy SWAMPED trying to catch up on everything. been doing 12+ hour days. i miss being away lol
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hey rejzor interesting for me this newest beta loads the ui super fast.....
GUI loads in about 3.5-4 seconds for me. Not horrendous, but far from super fast. In comparison ZAM opens is well under a second.
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Here is a video showing how long it takes for the GUI to load. From approximately the 3 second point until approximately 11 seconds. In my case, it's approximately 8 seconds to open this thing. You should be able to do better than this.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/doqhbntwdqoqo2h/Snap_2017.02.03_19h23m30s_003_.wmv?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/doqhbntwdqoqo2h/Snap_2017.02.03_19h23m30s_003_.wmv?dl=0)
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Petr :)
With all respect, but you can't call this this a RC if there are so many ( known ) issues to fix.
Forgive me for asking, but are the the Marketing guys pressing ( again ) ?
Greetz, Red.
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hey rejzor interesting for me this newest beta loads the ui super fast.....
GUI loads in about 3.5-4 seconds for me. Not horrendous, but far from super fast. In comparison ZAM opens is well under a second.
im seeing approx 2.5 seconds which is not really to bad. previous builds took at least twice that, compare to some others like eset it is a bit slow, but then compare to say avira with the new connect and its not at all bad.
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Loading a bit faster on my older Intel Atom Nettop from Acer lol, can't wait to see how it works on my main Windows 10 more powerful system, (hopefully upgrades smoothly from Avast 12.3.2280, or I might opt to remove that, and do a clean install possibly, will see what I decide to do when it's final.
Also The Known issue list is shorter than another antimalware release back in December that had a ton of issues compared to Known issue list Avast lists there, confident that those known issues will be solved in a timely manner and will be nice and stable and smooth hopefully.
Use powerful system for Gaming, video watching, sometimes skype calls, and General PC duties, sometimes word processing, video encoding, will definitely see how it performs when it's final, don't really install beta versions on this system much
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Avast statistics is no more on gui.Why??@petr.chytil
Avast loading is still slow.
Anti-Spam not on and still not fixed.
Google Chrome(64 Bit) plug in(AOS) Not install.
Love to see if Behavior Shield work off-line aswell as on-line. :)
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the times i quoted are from a older toshiba i5-560 based laptop with 8gb ram im using for testing right now. not the fastest by any means.
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Thanks for the update :)
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We're faced with a problem about Web Shield. We sometimes cannot open the websites until it turns down, like the famous Sina. Once we found the Firewall suspicious, the websites can't be opened still when closed. Web shield, however, is off the way in Firewall. On this occasion, it's amazing that we should reopen them.
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UI is still ridiculously slow, considering how fast my PC is, I don't even want to imagine what it's like on something slower.
And why is there still the demented shredder icon. If I wanted to have a UI with half the items not working and popping up "buy our great xxx to use this shitty option yyy" all over the place, I would be using the free version, I sure don't want to have something like this in a paid product.
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;) hope that final will be soon :)
i need only free version :)
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For a final release it's to early.
=Snake=
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ok too early but at least when or date that make pepole more happy ok
Please, don't try to push the devs or anybody else!
;)
=Snake=
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And why is there still the demented shredder icon. If I wanted to have a UI with half the items not working and popping up "buy our great xxx to use this shitty option yyy" all over the place, I would be using the free version, I sure don't want to have something like this in a paid product.
Have you disabled the ad popups available only in the paid versions ?
AvastUI > Settings > General > Popups - uncheck 'Show popup offers for other avast products.'
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Yes, that's disabled, but it's not what I'm talking about anyway.
I'm talking about the shredder, which is a premium function that shouldn't be hogging space in AIS UI since it can't be used anyway. The "pop up" thing was an exaggeration, though if you click on it, it's basically the same, just without the literal "pop up".
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Yes, that's disabled, but it's not what I'm talking about anyway.
I'm talking about the shredder, which is a premium function that shouldn't be hogging space in AIS UI since it can't be used anyway. The "pop up" thing was an exaggeration, though if you click on it, it's basically the same, just without the literal "pop up".
I'm with you on this. When you already pay for a product, it should not advertise other products as you have already paid and decided.
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If this is what you are talking about it is part of the privacy sectio, I assume that VPN is to go there as well
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If this is what you are talking about it is part of the privacy sectio, I assume that VPN is to go there as well
And would it be possible to untick privacy?
;)
=Snake= aka HDW38
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If this is what you are talking about it is part of the privacy sectio
Privacy section I don't want to have there, especially if the only thing that's in there isn't even working.
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If this is what you are talking about it is part of the privacy sectio
Privacy section I don't want to have there, especially if the only thing that's in there isn't even working.
I also had a word with the Avast team regarding the Data Shredder being shown in Privacy section of Internet Security.
In simple terms, it's an upsell feature to upgrade to Premier. The data shredder isn't installed and it won't be part of the custom install option since it's not included in Internet Security.
This will remain as it is now although not ideal for some including myself. You can NOT remove it from Privacy tab if using Internet Security.
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In simple terms, it's an upsell feature to upgrade to Premier
The only thing that such "upsell" feature does for me, is to NOT WANT TO PAY for the product once my subscription runs out. First it was the Chrome forcefeed fiasco, then SafeZone browser and now this... sigh
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Avast statistics is no more on gui.Why??@petr.chytil
The stats will not make it to this release since they weren't good enough. They will be added at a later date.
Avast loading is still slow.
In terms of the UI loading, yes it is slow but I believe they will be further UI optimizations.
Anti-Spam not on and still not fixed.
What do you mean by not on? It's working fine here.
Google Chrome(64 Bit) plug in(AOS) Not install.
This has been reported a few builds ago. There is a few hours delay before the plugins get installed in the browser although (most) of the time it doesn't really install in the BETA. You can get if off the Google Store from here : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/avast-online-security/gomekmidlodglbbmalcneegieacbdmki?hl=en
Love to see if Behavior Shield work off-line aswell as on-line. :)
The Behaviour Shield does work off-line but I'm pretty sure it works better with cloud. Correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
In simple terms, it's an upsell feature to upgrade to Premier
The only thing that such "upsell" feature does for me, is to NOT WANT TO PAY for the product once my subscription runs out. First it was the Chrome forcefeed fiasco, then SafeZone browser and now this... sigh
It's not actually installed, just the icon is there.
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The Settings GUI is finally OK. I understand the most important thing is to have a good working (free of bugs) usable interface, and great protection, and only then make the interface better and better with monthly updates schedule. Some things that i think should not go in the release version... The "Running" thing when a scan is running shouldn't show 4 seconds after you opened the antivirus section of the UI, but instantly. Also, one should not have to go to status and then come back to antivirus to see the "Running" thing actually moving. It should show everytime when both conditions are met - (1) a scan is running and (2) the antivirus section of the UI is currently shown. Also, the boot scan has a scheduling in the settings!!! I mean, what??? It is different than the other scans, you schedule that scan by clicking the button. You should also make the option to unschedule it by clicking the same button again as it was in previous avast versions. Fix the name in the settings for that scan as it is currently "??".
The GUI is not as dark with green and orange as i thought it would be good, but it is okay. It works now (or after you fix the known issues), but it is far from feeling a good interface. You would have to work hard on it after the release. Another thing that i think you have to do is to make the padding in the items popup smaller. When you click protection what shows is the worst part of the interface.
To work on this after bugfixes of current GUI and stable integrated protection modules are released:
Improvements have been done but far from what is needed to love it when you see it. In the left part, where there are only 3 buttons now, maybe show "Status", "Protection","Privacy", "Performance" and "Quarantine". And this is the time when you realise that you have done the buttons too big to fill the space instead of utilizing it better. Make the proposed buttons show constantly in the left. A little darker on hover as it is now is good. On click (active) they can become orange, like the brand is. That mix of purple, violet and blue is certainly not good. The thing that currently opens when you click some of the buttons should take the whole space, not only 85% nor 90% width. It should be dark, with buttons of 3 groups: installed features, available with your license but not installed, and available with upgrade only. There should be blank rows (margins) between the rows with buttons to visually separate better what is available and what is not installed and what is available after upgrade. One should be able to install and uninstall features right from there without the need of going to control panel, and also should be able to upgrade with 2-3 clicks from there. Settings should be merged with the new GUI and each feature should have its own button with own settings instead of everything in one settings panel. The current settings and schedule buttons on top of the features will make it. The upgrade button should go on the place of the current BETA. So the title will say: Avast Free Antivirus with an upgrade button next to it. Avast Pro antivirus (maybe with an upgrade button next to it) and so on. You can put something usefull on its current place like a news feature or something else that will popup when you click it.
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But right now, 'Privacy' is also part of the free version. As I don't need it, I ask again, if it would be possible to untick:
;)
=Snake=
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But right now, 'Privacy' is also part of the free version. As I don't need it, I ask again, if it would be possible to untick:
;)
=Snake=
On a custom install you should be able to uncheck options in the Privacy section.
If you didn't do that AvastUI > Settings > General > Components - scroll down to the Privacy section, that should allow you to uninstall unwanted components.
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Thx, David. :)
=Snake=
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Thx, David. :)
=Snake=
You're welcome.
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Is IDP/ software analyzer working like it should in this beta?
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Is IDP/ software analyzer working like it should in this beta?
Yes. Do you see any problems with it?
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On a custom install you should be able to uncheck options in the Privacy section.
That will still leave you with the shredder icon, since it's not an install option and neither is it in the components dialog.
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On a custom install you should be able to uncheck options in the Privacy section.
That will still leave you with the shredder icon, since it's not an install option and neither is it in the components dialog.
+1 ;D
=Snake=
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On a custom install you should be able to uncheck options in the Privacy section.
That will still leave you with the shredder icon, since it's not an install option and neither is it in the components dialog.
I have just done an install over the top on this system. I can now see what you mean, that the data shredder icon in still in the UI Privacy tab. But it also has a lock icon superimposed over it, I would have though a No Entry sign/icon would have been more appropriate.
It is also the same in the Protection, Sandbox, Firewall and Secure DNS all have locks over them. I also believe these should be greyed out also to indicate they aren't installed.
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On a custom install you should be able to uncheck options in the Privacy section.
That will still leave you with the shredder icon, since it's not an install option and neither is it in the components dialog.
I also believe these should be greyed out also to indicate they aren't installed.
Especially for users with glasses. +1
=Snake=
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I also believe these should be greyed out also to indicate they aren't installed.
Especially for users with glasses. +1
=Snake=
Or better yet they should be grouped by installed or not, separated in two rows and on hover of not installed ones the text will change to clearly show you. Plus the lock icon when not on hover.
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i can see both sides when it comes to this. they would love people to upgrade and add things on but i know i also HATE extras just sitting there. and i make sure to do custom and not install pretty much anything except the basic things i need. but for the sake of beta testing i use premier with everything installed it comes with. this way i can test out all the options and features and try not to miss issues i may otherwise not see, on my non beta systems however i would personally rather not see it at all even though i lic's are for premier i dont use those extras (i get my lic's from my company so i dont care that its premier)
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hope avast will improve detect PUA/PUP software
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hope avast will improve detect PUA/PUP software
Means...??
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Having had the hassle of trying to get AOS installed and working in Firefox 51.0.1, which failed miserably requiring many restarts, all of which I did.
I had occasion to open the UI again only to see that the Status reporting You're Protected BUT 'There are a couple of things to fix'. The FIX ALL option did nothing other than reporting a Restart was needed and now there was '1' notification. This resulted in the issue reported by many of it never goes away, clicking on the Bell just sends on a merry go round (having reported You have no new notifications).
Running a Smart Scan reports nothing found.
About to restart once again.
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Having had the hassle of trying to get AOS installed and working in Firefox 51.0.1, which failed miserably requiring many restarts, all of which I did.
If you got AOS working on FF, you're one of the few lucky ones. ;)
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Did anybody try a clean install of avast and succeeded in installing the new AOS?
;)
=Snake=
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Did anybody try a clean install of avast and succeeded in installing the new AOS?
;)
=Snake=
I believe some certainly have (seen in some topics) and some have done a clean install to try and resolve issues, over and above the AOS not working.
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Did anybody try a clean install of avast and succeeded in installing the new AOS?
;)
=Snake=
Clean install doesn't work because the install routine is broken. Use this method:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=195701.msg1364124#msg1364124
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Did anybody try a clean install of avast and succeeded in installing the new AOS?
;)
=Snake=
Clean install doesn't work because the install routine is broken. Use this method:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=195701.msg1364124#msg1364124
That didn't work for me at all (see post after RejZoR's), I could get AOS installed, but no different to my original condition (beta install over the top of 2280), AOS showed enabled in FF51.0.1 but AOS didn't work in searches and AOS icon in FF was greyed out.
I ended up going round in circles before disappearing up my nether regions.
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First Hello to all and early I said I was interested in trying the beta and perhaps giving some input well I must say the new avast premier download went flawlessly but there are a few things and one is important
1 I notice what a few other testers have said that the GUI takes time to load in task bar and when you go into avast it takes time to open.not bad but you can notice the delay
2 this is confusing with the cleaner do you need the separate program or does premier have its own in the security program it's very confusing needs to be told more clearly on this users are confused and me especially
3 this is the big one avast firewall is putting the users connection to public at home so when you put it to private you reboot and lose internet connection and omg I couldn't get back on and on reboot it wouldn't let me log into my windows account with no connection what so ever I had to do two system restores to finally get back to working condition with internet connection.and when checked the firewall is back to private now the can't log into windows could be your cleaner removing something but connection lost issue was the firewall.
but online experience is smooth and fast boot is quick and shut down is good could be better hangs a little but overall you did an awesome job you should be proud great job avast team just work on number 3 that's the big one that needs attention. I read a few other places that the also were having trouble with the firewall and internet connection.
Hope it helps you some
Mark
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After installing on windows 7 x86 2gb ram
UI works good but translate slovak is not finished cos some meaning is still in english lang.
also own scannig when application is on full screen showing only 10% done after minimize it it showing normal % of scanning on screen
so i will waiting for final :)
hope you will be fastest like ESET :)
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We're faced with a problem about Web Shield. We sometimes cannot open the websites until it turns down, like the famous Sina. Once we found the Firewall suspicious, the websites can't be opened still when closed. Web shield, however, is off the way in Firewall. On this occasion, it's amazing that we should reopen them.
Hi Kinry,
could you please specify websites you are having difficulties with? I tried sina.com (is it correct?) in chrome and firefox browsers with web-shield and firewall running and so far no issues observed.
Thanks in advance,
HK
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Having had the hassle of trying to get AOS installed and working in Firefox 51.0.1, which failed miserably requiring many restarts, all of which I did.
If you got AOS working on FF, you're one of the few lucky ones. ;)
If this is the correct version, then it's working for me:
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cbn1IX6V8P
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Having had the hassle of trying to get AOS installed and working in Firefox 51.0.1, which failed miserably requiring many restarts, all of which I did.
If you got AOS working on FF, you're one of the few lucky ones. ;)
If this is the correct version, then it's working for me:
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cbn1IX6V8P
Hi Bob, no, 12.0.88 is the old version.
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Having had the hassle of trying to get AOS installed and working in Firefox 51.0.1, which failed miserably requiring many restarts, all of which I did.
If you got AOS working on FF, you're one of the few lucky ones. ;)
If this is the correct version, then it's working for me:
http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cbn1IX6V8P
Prior to running the tests, mine to all intents and purposes was working as far looking at FF51.0.1 add-ons showed installed and enabled. But it didn't work in searches, the AOS icon in FF browsing was greyed out and clicking that icon showed zero history/data.
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The problem with the settings is still here :(
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The problem with the settings is still here :(
Devs are working on it.
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The problem with the settings is still here :(
Devs are working on it.
Good to know that. 8)