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Title: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: lister on June 10, 2008, 07:21:29 PM
I'm running Vista Home Premium and today I noticed I have 50 instances of ashWebSv.exe running in the processes list in the taskmanager.
They stay open whether the browser is open or not.

Anyone?
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: DavidR on June 10, 2008, 08:33:25 PM
I have seen one other post (with an image) of this issue, though not 50 instances of ashWebSv.exe multiple instances. I don't know if that one was also Vista OS, but my XP task manager only reports 1 instance.

I don't know if this would be different if I or you used IE and had multiple windows open ?
I use firefox so only see one window with multiple tabs.

I would normally suggest that you do a clean reinstall, but I don't use Vista nor IE7 so I can't test to see if there would be multiple occurrences of ashwebsv.exe. It certainly wouldn't hurt to try it.

Download the latest version of avast http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html (http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html) and save it to your HDD, somewhere you can find it again. Use that when you reinstall.

Download the avast! Uninstall Utility, find it here (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html) and save it to your HDD.

Now uninstall (using add remove programs), reboot, run the avast! Uninstall Utility, reboot, install the latest version, reboot.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Lisandro on June 10, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
I noticed I have 50 instances of ashWebSv.exe running in the processes list in the taskmanager.
Where? Into TCPView? Into your firewall activity log? Or into Windows task manager?
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: DavidR on June 10, 2008, 10:37:26 PM
He says the task manager in the text you quoted.

I have also see an image of the same thing (in task manager) today in another topic, I couldn't find it though.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Lisandro on June 10, 2008, 11:34:09 PM
I suggest an installation from the scratch:

1. Uninstall avast from Control Panel first.
2. Boot.
3. Download the latest version of Avast Uninstall (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html) and use it for complete uninstallation.
4. Boot.
5. Install again the latest avast! (http://www.avast.com/eng/programs.html) version.
6. Boot.
7. Check and post the results.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: alanrf on June 11, 2008, 01:14:58 AM
I suspect this is the post David is referring to:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=36114.msg303892#msg303892
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Lisandro on June 11, 2008, 01:33:30 AM
But we do not find an answer and don't know how to troubleshoot it...
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: DavidR on June 11, 2008, 02:38:54 AM
I suspect this is the post David is referring to:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=36114.msg303892#msg303892

Yes Alan that is the one.
Since your involved in that topic you might suggest to skyguy a clean reinstall and see if it resolves the problem.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Vlk on June 11, 2008, 09:07:10 AM
lister, indeed an interesting problem.

Could you please open the Task Manager again, go to the Processes page, menu View -> Select columns and check the box next to "Threads".
What is the Threads value for each of the ashWebSv.exe processes?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: lister on June 12, 2008, 01:05:26 AM
After a reboot, the problem has gone away. I'll certainly post back if it happens again.

Though i'll soon be formatting and installing XP on the laptop, so it may not happen again.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Hairsnooks on June 20, 2008, 09:26:07 PM
Good-day. I searched and found this topic the other day because I also had 50 of them. I followed the advice and re-booted and they went away.

I've noticed for some time that I've been having a 'chattering' problem, freezing for a split second etc. (Can't remember when it started.)

Today I noticed that my hard drive was chattering a bit again and so looked at the task manager: my normal 50 processes had once again jumped to 100. But this time I had the following:

scvhost.exe =   9 of them (6 to 32 threads)
winRAR.exe  = 41 of them  (1 to 3 threads)

Note that it adds up to 50 once again. This may help someone somewhere to get a handle on what's going on.

Thank you.

I suppose it would help if I told you it was Vista Basic on an Acer.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: tinsoldier on May 28, 2009, 05:24:26 AM
Hi folks.  I was wondering if there has been any update to this problem.  I have completed an uninstall and reinstall as suggested by Tech & DavidR.  Still have the problem.   It's really dragging the performance of the computer down.  The problem always occurs on start-up and persists for as long as 45 minutes.  After start-up, all instances but one will close and things seem to run pretty smoothly after that.

TIA

Jim
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: calcu007 on May 28, 2009, 05:53:12 AM
Please read VKL post
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: tinsoldier on May 28, 2009, 06:29:54 AM
Shows a thread value of 18 at the moment.  I have no idea what that means.  Also, at the moment, I only have one instance of the .exe running.

Jim
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: DavidR on May 28, 2009, 03:19:39 PM
I believe that is normal as I only have one occurrence of ashwebsv.exe and it has 21 threads, that I guess is related to what it has scanned, the number of windows/tabs open, etc. (I really don't know for sure). I have firefox with 11 open tabs.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on July 30, 2009, 10:00:21 PM
Was this anomaly ever figured out? I've been recommending Avast! product for awhile now, and everything was perfect. One or two versions back, people begin experience MAJOR slowdowns with Avast! installed. In these people's Task Managers I'd see three or more instances of ashWebSv.exe. The only way to bring back the performance is to disable Avast! Web Shield permanently and re-boot. Uninstalling Avast! and even running the Avast! Cleanup utility and re-booting and re-installing Avast! freshly doesn't resolve this anomaly.

So far I've only seen XP users experience this anomaly, ... I'm in hopes the problem would be quickly resolved, but after having read over different topics regarding this anomaly, it doesn't seem even the developers have any clues to why this is occurring.


Regards,
Phant0m``
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on July 31, 2009, 02:14:40 PM
While this particular anomaly doesn't exists on a particular type of computer system, one of the commonly affected computer systems that I have observed this anomaly on is with the Intel Celerons. Celerons are very slow to begin with, and with Avast! installed make booting up that much more slower, but with this Web Shield anomaly it brings these Celeron systems to a crawl for the entire Windows session.


The only logical step is to stop recommending Avast! until the Avast! development teams takes this anomaly seriously and addresses it finally.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: YoKenny on July 31, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
@Phant0m``

Typically if the user chooses a Celeron based system then it will have a small amount of RAM and that is the major cause of slow systems so adding RAM is the best solution and to not recommend avast! is not.   

RAM is the best and cheapest investment to improve system performance.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on August 01, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Has nothing to-do with not having enough RAM in these computers, these computers are fairly new and have 1 through to 2GBs of RAM. Also this isn't specific to Celerons, I have reported a similar if not identical problem happening on Pentium 4 system back in Dec 2008.

And I don't remember seeing several ashWebSv.exe instances running in people's Windows Task Manager up until mid to late 2008.

What are the conditions for two or more instances of ashWebSv.exe to be loaded? Does it have something to-do with simultaneous connections?

I would really like to have this problem investigated, I'll do the WebShield log activation and e-mail it.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Lisandro on August 01, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
Does it have something to-do with simultaneous connections?
No, it shouldn't. Normal installations have a lot of connections without multiply WebShield instances.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on August 01, 2009, 08:17:52 PM
I have a customer's Laptop here, It's Pentium-III with Windows XP Home running on it.

They have Avast! installed on-it and the anomaly exists with this here setup. I've uninstalled Avast! and re-booted and ran the Avast! Clean-up utility, and re-booted again before re-installing the latest official Avast! package.

I've noticed right from the very beginning of the Windows session, avast! Web Shield, four instances of it shown in Windows Task Manager. These instances are rapidly taking up more and more memory and continues on. After watching for many, many minutes I then see avast.setup appearing and shortly afterwards three more instances of Web Shield appears in Task Manager. avast.setup instantly easts up much memory and continues to increase, avast.setup disappears and re-appears and disappears several times. avast.setup always shows to be cycling through a-lot of CPU, finally long after, like about almost 16 or so minutes later some Web Shield instances disappears. Around 19minutes in, avast.setup is disappeared for a minute or two and Web Shield is down to one instance and then disappears. Avast! now informs me of the updated definitions. And now things seems more responsive, but there isn't an instance running of Web Shield. I went into the Avast! 'On-Access Protection Control', and view the state of Avast! Web Shield in the list of 'Installed providers', and the information shown ... Web Shield Version 4.8-1335, Scanned count 0, Run time 20:23+. The Start button was disabled, Pause and Terminate buttons were active and Web Shield set for Sensitivity level - 'Normal'. Web Shield entry in the list of 'Installed providers' was the usual bolded self. And now when I rebooted into Windows and visiting Windows Task Manager doesn't reveal multiple instances of Web Shield, .. even after doing some browsing.

At this point it's almost seemed like some sort of internal conflict with avast automatic updater and Web Shield. I decided to simply uninstall Avast, re-boot and re-install Avast and to finish it off, I edited the <avast>\data\avast4.ini file to include the Web Shield logging entry and re-boot again.

Upon re-boot it was instant, four ashWebSv.exe instances appears, behaving the identical way as before, with basically everything staying the same until the final stages where it drops to one instance of ashWebSv.exe and remains active. When Avast automatically updates the definitions, I re-boot and when back into Windows things are running smoothly and speedy as if nothing has ever happened with Avast!.

... Now I do remember seeing avast.setup in Windows Task Manager when they experienced major computer slow downs and Avast! had several instances of Web Shield running. I cannot tell you though if every single customer who had Avast! and the Avast! Web Shield anomaly had avast.setup showing in Windows Task Manager.

And by the way, terminating Web Shield after the final stage, and visiting <avast>\data\ folder, both files avast4.ini and ashwebsv.ws were 0bytes for filesize ... I guess there's no point in e-mailing these files then?  ;D



Regards,
Phant0m``
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on August 01, 2009, 11:41:53 PM
Is there something special I should do?
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Lisandro on August 02, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
Phant0m, it's beyond my knowledge. I need help from the technical staff of avast.
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on August 02, 2009, 01:48:15 AM
Having determined from my investigation, multiple Web Shield instances seems to be linked to some type of internal Avast conflict with it's automatic updater .. I've continued to experiment.

I figured perhaps I could get different results if I were to play around with Avast! 'Update *' section, so I enabled 'My computer is permanently connected to the Internet' in 'Update (Connections)', re-booting and monitoring Windows Task Manager some more.

This time avast.setup almost immediately appeared upon start-up, and several minutes later Avast informed me of definitions update. The whole entire time there was ONLY ONE instance of ashWebSv.exe in Windows Task Manager.

I couldn't be absolutely sure this problem was cured by simply enabling 'My computer is permanently connected to the Internet' feature in 'Update (Connections)', so I've uninstalled Avast! and re-booted, re-installed Avast! and re-booted. And re-tested, and had the very same results.


... I wonder if this is the same problem for the other people on this forum who experiencing the multiple ashWebSrv.exe instances in Windows Task Manager.  ???
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Jack 1000 on August 02, 2009, 02:08:59 AM
Quote
Having determined from my investigation, multiple Web Shield instances seems to be linked to some type of internal Avast conflict with it's automatic updater .. I've continued to experiment.

I figured perhaps I could get different results if I were to play around with Avast! 'Update *' section, so I enabled 'My computer is permanently connected to the Internet' in 'Update (Connections)', re-booting and monitoring Windows Task Manager some more.

This time avast.setup almost immediately appeared upon start-up, and several minutes later Avast informed me of definitions update. The whole entire time there was ONLY ONE instance of ashWebSv.exe in Windows Task Manager.

I couldn't be absolutely sure this problem was cured by simply enabling 'My computer is permanently connected to the Internet' feature in 'Update (Connections)', so I've uninstalled Avast! and re-booted, re-installed Avast! and re-booted. And re-tested, and had the very same results.


... I wonder if this is the same problem for the other people on this forum who experiencing the multiple ashWebSrv.exe instances in Windows Task Manager. 


I have never had instances of multiple web shields appearing or conflicts in this regard, but I know that when I check the "My computer is permanently connected to the Internet." it does help with updates, so maybe that would help with the web shield synchronization as well.  Users with this problem, have you checked that prompt, "My computer is permanently connected to the Internet." check box, than rebooted to see if that solves the problem?

Jack
Title: Re: multiple (50) instances of ashWebSv.exe
Post by: Phant0m`` on August 07, 2009, 11:32:25 PM
Has this been corrected for version 5 of Avast?