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Title: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: ace2701 on August 05, 2008, 11:32:01 PM
Has anyone had any trouble trying to reach siteadvisor.com on Mcafee (or any other site,for that matter)?
I had to uninstall the add-on from my FF, and now I can't download or install a new copy.  Anywhere I
go, when I get transferred to siteadvisor.com, I can't make contact.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: DavidR on August 05, 2008, 11:42:35 PM
Exactly how are trying to connect, e.g. is this ?
siteadvisor.com seems very slow to respond.

I would say you should go to the Mozilla add-ons site and search for siteadvisor from there to get the add-on, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: polonus on August 05, 2008, 11:46:37 PM
Hi ace2701,

I have dropped MacAfee's SiteAdvisor add-on a long time ago for Fx or Flock, only ran it inside IE7, and their results are not quite reliable because it is not the actual situation on the net that it checks against, but what is in their databases, and this could be quite different from the momentary situation, with the modern ways to hack sites there is no longer any distinction between good sites and evil sites. The malcreants reduced the validity of these URL checkers quite some bit, believe me....
Better is Finjan Secure Browsing 1.314 add=on or the real-time DrWeb's anti-virus link checker enforced through Nightly Tester Tools for Fx 3. You could also use scandoo.com search-engine and add that to you regular search engines in Fx,it  does more or less the same as SiteAdvisor would.

polonus
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: ace2701 on August 05, 2008, 11:54:01 PM
Tried that.  No siteadvisor listed.  For that matter, any plugin  on any site which leads to siteadvisor.com leads nowhere.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: ace2701 on August 06, 2008, 12:01:53 AM
Thanks polonus. I've installed Finjan, and will see how it works.  If you don't hear anything further from me on this subject, consider
this case closed.   ;)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 06, 2008, 12:37:28 AM
Thanks polonus. I've installed Finjan, and will see how it works.  If you don't hear anything further from me on this subject, consider
this case closed.   ;)
ace 2701. Do a simple GOOGLE search on siteadvisor. You'll get your link. I agree that FINJAN is far better. I'd like scandoo to be integrated like FINJAN and siteadvisor in the browser, in order not to get separate result.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: polonus on August 06, 2008, 01:05:49 AM
Hi gdiloren,

Have you experienced that they differ qua results? There was an issue with MacAfee's SiteAdvisor  blocking the sites of sans institute because they reported on some flaws with SiteAdvisor, not a thing that will enhance my trust in their results: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4799
Next they blocked a German site that was critical about the MacAfee AV result. On two of these ticks, it is out for me- don't trust it anymore, no further need to defend it anymore. Did you knew about these issues?

polonus

Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Sesame on August 06, 2008, 03:01:35 AM
where do i download it from?form thr mcafee site?
http://www.siteadvisor.com/download/ff_preinstall.html

Some questions are better asked to Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=site+advisor+firefox).
However, WOT (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3456) and Finjan SecureBrowsing (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4892) may be more helpful.
Reusing my old post due to sheer laziness.  ;D

Have you experienced that they differ qua results? There was an issue with MacAfee's SiteAdvisor  blocking the sites of sans institute because they reported on some flaws with SiteAdvisor, not a thing that will enhance my trust in their results: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4799
Next they blocked a German site that was critical about the MacAfee AV result. On two of these ticks, it is out for me- don't trust it anymore, no further need to defend it anymore. Did you knew about these issues?
I couldn't remember details but, personally, I don't have site advisor due to my doubt.  I don't recommend it strongly to the others, neither.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 06, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
Hi gdiloren,

Have you experienced that they differ qua results? There was an issue with MacAfee's SiteAdvisor  blocking the sites of sans institute because they reported on some flaws with SiteAdvisor, not a thing that will enhance my trust in their results: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=4799
Next they blocked a German site that was critical about the MacAfee AV result. On two of these ticks, it is out for me- don't trust it anymore, no further need to defend it anymore. Did you knew about these issues?

polonus


Thanks polonus, I'm not looking anymore to force the installation on my user account while its results (installed on admin.) will be filtered. No I never experienced any problems with siteadvisor except installation problems in FF but I am happy you made me know FINJAN better, thanks to AVAST!!! ;)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Sesame on August 07, 2008, 12:00:48 AM
I dropped by since I came across a YouTube video titled as SiteAdvisor vs. MyWOT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkbRImLmsZI).  It's done by a WOT fan but he/she compares them quite comprehensively.

I remembered some reasons why I uninstalled SiteAdvisor...the result felt rather uneven depending on sites and, at times, I couldn't agree with the results on some sites.  So, the reason is rather subjective and heuristic although I find some people felt more or less in the same way.  Again, I have to say, "try it out yourself and see if you like it or not."
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: avast08 on August 14, 2008, 11:20:15 PM
hi everybody... i want to know if I install SiteAdvisor, I have avast, spybot search and destroy, plug in dr web, IE7 ...
thanks ...
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 14, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
hi everybody... i want to know if I install SiteAdvisor, I have avast, spybot search and destroy, plug in dr web, IE7 ...
thanks ...
It won't be bad as web checkers do another job, parallel, than the resident antivirus and antispyware.
I would suggest WOT extension on Firefox or Finjan rather than SiteAdvisor.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: avast08 on August 14, 2008, 11:34:07 PM
ok... i will try...  ;)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 14, 2008, 11:41:45 PM
ok... i will try...  ;)
Post the results and your experiences ;)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: avast08 on August 15, 2008, 04:34:45 PM
Finjan does not detect almost anything, I try to webs xxx , cracks, and green mark, it is rare, scandoo and siteadvior detected more quantity ... I believe it is not very effective ...
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 15, 2008, 05:37:00 PM
Finjan does not detect almost anything, I try to webs xxx , cracks, and green mark, it is rare, scandoo and siteadvior detected more quantity ... I believe it is not very effective ...
Thanks for posting your experience. I'm using WOT but I'm not able to compare the effectiveness with other web scanners.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 15, 2008, 11:10:49 PM
Matter of fact, I'm totally lost with McAfee SiteAdvisor extension! It sometimes appears in my searchs, sometimes not (when it is most needed!!) and on my user account browser FF it won'y simply install!! It's a pity!!! :'(
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: avast08 on August 15, 2008, 11:58:31 PM
a question: Is that the best anti-virus detected almost 500000 viruses, they are created 5475000 per year? ..
that would be infected constantly ...
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 02:37:13 AM
a question: Is that the best anti-virus detected almost 500000 viruses, they are created 5475000 per year? ..
that would be infected constantly ...
Give a reference we can verify to your data, link or something. ;D
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: polonus on August 16, 2008, 02:50:23 AM
Hi gdiloren,

A av-engine can only hold a specific amount of detection, this could be a problem because a dropped older and "revamped" virus could form a new threat.

pol
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 04:29:04 AM
So, the only way is still to use Sandboxie or keep a serious watch where we surf...! ::)
Is Sandboxie truly 100% malware infection proof after all. It's hard to believe someone would not pierce the mystery on how to break down Sandboxie to infect Sandboxie protected pcs one day or the other. :(
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: DavidR on August 16, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
There is no such thing as 100% when it comes to security. There are I believe some malware variants that avoid the sandbox so it isn't a 100% guarantee.

If you totally isolate the sandbox, no saved browser cache (not very good on dial-up) favourites, etc. and not save anything back to the non-sandbox area when you close it, then it would contribute greatly to your overall security, but nothing is 100%.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 04:02:51 PM
I agree! I see! :D
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Finjan has also FP. It is now flagging red the searchs about the web site of a Canadian newspaper, The Globe and mail, on GOOGLE,  while WOT says it's OK. This is annoying. I also scanned the URL with Dr. Web Link Checker and it says CLEAN there! :o
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 16, 2008, 05:41:57 PM
I'm using WOT but I'm not able to compare the effectiveness with other web scanners.
Seems that the experience is going toward WOT against other web scanners ::)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: DavidR on August 16, 2008, 06:21:09 PM
I like WOT because it isn't a pain when you are on a dial-up connection, it just seems lighter on my pathetic bandwidth.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 09:40:29 PM
Caution must be used with those link scanners results in BOTH ways. Use your judgment.  ;D They can break your surfing pleasure for nothing or make you download malware while telling you it's safe. There is no safe  heaven for us on Earth, web surfers! :P
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
There is no such thing as 100% when it comes to security. There are I believe some malware variants that avoid the sandbox so it isn't a 100% guarantee.

If you totally isolate the sandbox, no saved browser cache (not very good on dial-up) favourites, etc. and not save anything back to the non-sandbox area when you close it, then it would contribute greatly to your overall security, but nothing is 100%.
At our Senior Center (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/MLRA%20Blog/MeadowLakeCenter.png) I use a program called Deep Freeze For Windows (http://www.faronics.com/html/deepfreeze.asp)
Since the computers used there are public access and we place now browser restrictions on their use,
this is the only way to make absolutely sure the systems never remain infected.
Once rebooted, they always return to a clean, un-infected state.

Granted, the average user can't save any information for future use but, that's a small price to pay for your guaranteed system integrity.  :)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 16, 2008, 09:48:03 PM
At our Senior Center (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/MLRA%20Blog/MeadowLakeCenter.png) I use a program called Deep Freeze For Windows (http://www.faronics.com/html/deepfreeze.asp)
Other options for free are Windows SteadyState and Returnil.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 16, 2008, 10:13:46 PM
At our Senior Center (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/MLRA%20Blog/MeadowLakeCenter.png) I use a program called Deep Freeze For Windows (http://www.faronics.com/html/deepfreeze.asp)
Other options for free are Windows SteadyState and Returnil.
Fact is I fear it will be living HELL for me:I spent most of my time on internet updatiing and upgrading my various security softwares (AVAST HOME, Malwarebyte, SB, Asquare antimalware, Windows Update, WD, SAS, ST). But I'll study the matter. ;D
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 16, 2008, 10:36:01 PM
Fact is I fear it will be living HELL for me:I spent most of my time on internet updatiing and upgrading my various security softwares (AVAST HOME, Malwarebyte, SB, Asquare antimalware, Windows Update, WD, SAS, ST). But I'll study the matter. ;D
Do you have more than one partition?
If so, with Returnil you can protect the operational system one and let the programs be updated and installed in a second one. When you upgrade programs (due to windows registry) you'll need to temporary disable the protection.
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2008, 10:56:56 PM
gdiloren,
Once you get used to the routine of when and for how many boots to disable the protection,
It gets fairly easy. Considering that this assures you of always having a clean system in a usually
unsafe environment, it's worth the little extra effort.  :)
 
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: gdiloren on August 17, 2008, 12:48:23 AM
Well with Sandboxie & Returnil my PC will be "bullet proof" so to speak! ::)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 17, 2008, 01:00:22 AM
Well with Sandboxie & Returnil my PC will be "bullet proof" so to speak! ::)
Backup - and more than once - is the only "bullet proof" ;)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: bob3160 on August 17, 2008, 02:08:05 AM
Sorry Tech,
I have to disagree with you.  A backed up infected system is not bullet proof. It's already been killed.  ;D
The only way to make sure your system stays clean is to make sure it can't get infected in the first place.  :)
Title: Re: Trying to reach Mcafee on Firefox
Post by: Lisandro on August 17, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
Sorry Tech, I have to disagree with you.  A backed up infected system is not bullet proof. It's already been killed.  ;D
You're not disagreeing with me. You're right. Of course I'm talking about clean backups and more than once...

The only way to make sure your system stays clean is to make sure it can't get infected in the first place.  :)
As we do not live in a perfect software world... you'll get infected and then... oh, boy, use your loved backups ;)