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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: polonus on October 16, 2009, 09:46:02 PM
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Hi malware fighters,
You av solution doesn't detect "all them malware" (maybe 90%-95% of the present malware assortment, but not 100%, it never will); you do not want the remainder to go undetected.
By providing a fast and light layer of virus detection and linking everyone in a global community we harness a security sum that is far greater than its individual parts, we call this Collective Immunity.
Community Based Protection
Cloud Computing
Collective Intelligence
Immunet Protect gathers strength daily as the Immunet Community grows and best of all its FREE. Already have AntiVirus? Even better, install Immunet Protect alongside your existing product, and it will make the Immunet community even stronger,
This does not mean that you should not also use layered protection, in-browser protection and update and fully patch your Operational System and third party software (use Secunia PSI), use your machine with less rights when not downloading updates and when you absolutely cannot do without full admin rights,
Anyway I am glad Immunet Protect is now supporting avast, look at my active window pic,
Who else has Immunet Protect "in the cloud-av layer" in combination with avast?
polonus
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I just downloaded, installed it, and ran the first scan which took 1 minute & 18 seconds.
There are 18, 216 users when it installed.
I will see how it goes with a dial-up connection.
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It reports Microsoft Security Essentials but does not know about avast! V5 yet.
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I installed Immunet Protect on my XP sp3 desktop & on my Vista sp2 64bit laptop.
So far, all is good. 8)
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Hi YoKenny,
Maybe you haven't installed the latest version. Only that plays ball with avast,
pol
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interesting thread here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=251402&highlight=immunet
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This software looks very much like Threatfire so the real question is which software preform better Immunet Protect or Threatfire ??? ???
I've already had the latest version of Threatfire on my PC and I'm not sure about Immunet Protect.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Threatfire..whatever it looks like.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Threatfire..whatever it looks like.
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It used to be call Cyberhawk the behavior-based anti-malware software Cyberhawk has been renamed and released as PC Tools ThreatFire.
ThreatFire features innovative real-time behavioral technology that provides powerful protection against both known and unknown viruses, worms, trojans and malware.
See link http://www.threatfire.com/ (http://www.threatfire.com/)
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Thankfully, I can not tell that Immunet is running on dial-up but it is and there are no bad files listed, of course. :)
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I don't think it has anything to do with Threatfire..whatever it looks like.
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It used to be call Cyberhawk the behavior-based anti-malware software Cyberhawk has been renamed and released as PC Tools ThreatFire.
ThreatFire features innovative real-time behavioral technology that provides powerful protection against both known and unknown viruses, worms, trojans and malware.
See link http://www.threatfire.com/ (http://www.threatfire.com/)
so what ??? how does that make it similar at all with Immunet ? (thinking about the cloud thing here ;) )
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Hi YoKenny,
Maybe you haven't installed the latest version. Only that plays ball with avast,
pol
I'm running V1.0.18
Windows 7 (RC)
Supports 32-bit platforms only at this time
Must meet the minimum Windows 7 (RC) operating system requirements
Required for all installations:
A working Internet connection
Internet Explorer 7 or greater
Firefox 3 or greater
http://support.immunet.com/index.php/Immunet_Protect_Software_Requirements_(Beta)
Does not support avast! yet.
I don't want to register though:
https://www.immunet.com/login
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yep I think I'll skip this one ;D
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Does not support avast! yet.
Where did you see that statement???
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Does not support avast! yet.
Where did you see that statement???
Here What Anti-Virus packages are supported by Immunet Protect?
Currently Immunet Protect supports the 2009 versions of Norton Antivirus, N360 and Norton Internet Security as well as the beta of Norton Internet Security 2010. Additionally supported is AVG Pro and Mcafee Security Center.
http://support.immunet.com/index.php/Immunet_Protect_Frequently_Asked_Questions
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That FAQ is probably out of date.
On the UI of Immunet it says ... avast! antivirus is also running.
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That FAQ is probably out of date.
On the UI of Immunet it says ... avast! antivirus is also running.
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The FAQ is out of date but avast! V5 beta is not recognized and I am not about to email their support to ask for V5 inclusion until it is officially released.
I'll try it on my XP Pro system shortly.
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Yeah, I suppose that would be true of V5 since it is still a beta and not yet officially released.
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It doed not recognise avast! Professional running on my XP Pro system and reports only Microsoft Security Essentials.
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Hi YoKenny,
Maybe you haven't installed the latest version. Only that plays ball with avast,
pol
I'm running V1.0.18
Windows 7 (RC)
Supports 32-bit platforms only at this time
Must meet the minimum Windows 7 (RC) operating system requirements
Required for all installations:
A working Internet connection
Internet Explorer 7 or greater
Firefox 3 or greater
http://support.immunet.com/index.php/Immunet_Protect_Software_Requirements_(Beta)
Does not support avast! yet.
I don't want to register though:
https://www.immunet.com/login
I'm using 64bit version of Immunet Protect on my Vista 64bit laptop.
Supports 32-bit platforms only at this time
I downloaded Immunet Protect with Opera & run scans with Immunet Protect with Opera.
Required for all installations:
A working Internet connection
Internet Explorer 7 or greater
Firefox 3 or greater
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It doed not recognise avast! Professional running on my XP Pro system and reports only Microsoft Security Essentials.
I'm running Windows 7 and it's recognizing avast! But I've stopped using MSE.
I think Immune Protect only lists one AV so if your running more than one, the second one doesn't show up.
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Bob, what does Immunet Protect offer to avast 5 protection? ???
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Hi Tech and bob3160.
With Immunet Protect can opt to allow it monitor application installation and the application that will start. You also have the option to be notified on events (cloud notifications). The active protection of Immunet will prevent you to install any software unless it is determined as safe. This is useful nowadays because many are victim of Trojan downloader that automatically installs files and there are many rogue programs pushed aggressively.
The program let you run a Flashscan to check if any malware exists as running process or in the registry. It’s a very quick scanning by Immunet. The UI provides easy access to Summary, History, Scan and Settings. There is also an option sending Invites to your friend to start using Immunet. You will need to create a free registration though to start sending an invitation.
Its protection is visible in system tray and will notify you of any files have been installed and if any application has started.
Avast 5 will also have a sort of "in the cloud" protection from collective avast user interaction with the av-solution's base, but if you want the additional community (various av solutions) protection you can have this free in the cloud av next to avast resident av. Just testing this to see how this new concept will work, it has just been started since September last,
polonus
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Thanks Polonus... not yet self-confident that I need a cloud protection.
I test any gray setup on virustotal and judge the results.
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Immunet Protect kept hanging my XP Pro system so I have un-installed it.
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Is Immunet Protect good enough to run alone without avast!?
Does Immunet Protect have antispyware protection?
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Is Immunet Protect good enough to run alone without avast!?
No as it is not as effective as avast!
Does Immunet Protect have antispyware protection?
Read polonus' comments.
Its too new to say whether its anti-spyware protection is any good.
I would say that the combination of avast! anti virus and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) is hard to beat.
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I would say that the combination of avast! anti virus and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) is hard to beat.
Yap, the combi is epic!
But we dnt know if Immunet Protect is the key in unleashing avast's potential ;D....hmmmm....
I'll continue reading this thread for further notices^^
-AnimeLover^^
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From what I have read, we can't choose what to do if IP catches something, like put it in quarantine. ::)
So, I've ditched it.
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Hi rdmalloy,
This is a half truth, When a file is convicted and placed in Quarantine it is possible to reverse the conviction and have the file placed back onto your file system.
If you for instance seen through virustotals that it is a FP, In order to reverse this conviction and to restore the file to it's original location you simply need to press the Restore Button,
polonus
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Well I guess that is no different to avast or MBAM, in being able to restore the file, but what that doesn't do it to stop it from being detected in future scans and be placed right back in jail.
So unless there is an exclusion function (and reporting FPs) you are right back to square one.
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Hi DavidR,
Bugs etc. can be reported.
This is in the cloud protection, it convicts and quarantine only what is downloaded onto your computer,
after you restored it it is allowed. As I see it work the in the cloud scanner is for all that comes into your computer "in the cloud" from the Internet. The other things can be regulated with the scanning settings. This is also the fact that it cannot be run as a stand-alone and needs some resident av-software next to it to give ample protection. If it worked like you assumed no one could use it practically. This would mean very user-unfriendly behaviour and I would uninstall it also, you can also exit the protection and re-enable it on demand. I think it is rather flexible,
polonus
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Thanks, I think it will be some time before I'm in the cloud ;D
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is this a replacement for threatfire? or a good addition to use it with tf and your current AV and / or software firewall?
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Hi DarkLegend,
Immunet Protect and ThreatFire can be used together, no problem, in a way they are complementary.
Immunet Protect will scan system files and executables that are actually running on the machine while the user is online and evaluate everything the user is trying to download for being non-malcoded. It is specifically directed at preventing malicious downloads like Fake AV, ransomware etc. another aspect is that the users' database is bundled "in the cloud" this is closing the vulnerability gap further. Did not experience any reverse effects from downloading and running it and will report here,
polonus
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Immunet Protect and ThreatFire can be used together, no problem, in a way they are complementary.
Some partners that work well together in Windows 7 :)
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ok thanks, I'll install it and test it for a while and see what it does =). Also, Has anyone actually seen this thing in action? I have seen many a posts questioning how a new program can be protecting them against 4 + mil viruses already. I really hope this isn't just a program sitting in the background saying it's doing something but in reality it is not.
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@Bob: Which programs are the 1st and 4th icon on your screenshot ?
Haven't really read this thread the way i should have but i just wanna ask(especially Damian) about this Immunet thingie a) does it actually work, i mean does it actually increase my security at all as i am having a hard time believing this actually does anything so usefull that would warrant an install on my system b) any slowdowns ?(you know i game alot) and most important of all c) how stable is this program(anyone using it on 64 bit win) ?
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Hi Miha,
Yep, I think so as it scans everything that lands on your machine even temporals from your MBAM downloads, so for SAS download it gives a message for instance UIREPAIR.DLL with a green tag at a SAS update. I am just testing this in the cloud additional av. The scan you perform inside the program scans all your system files and all that runs there actually like all that is open in TaskManager for instance, slow-downs nothing of the sort...
Damian
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Have you tried testing it against anything ? That's what i want to know, is it effective, does it catch anything. YoKenny also said it kept crashing on him but that was on a 32 bit system, i'm more interested in the 64 bit version but if the 32 bit one is unstable i don't think the 64 bit one would be any better. I think i'll stay away from this one for now and let you guys test it properly first. If you still give it a green light after a month or so using and testing it i'll give it a go then probably.
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I have been testing it for several days and there has not been even one problem with Immunet and no slowdown of my 5 year old computer. It's scans are also very quick.
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Hi Mikey,
1. Comodo Verification Engine for IE
4. ThreatFire
Hope that answers your question. :)
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Hi bob3160.
Today my Immunet Protect said Oct 21st 133 clean programs installed.....
that means all that was installed updates, programs, temporal files; all went through Immunet Protect.
It is recognized specifically by ThreatFire, as people install ThreatFire it gives a message that one also runs Immunet Protect, so they actually work in full cooperation,
polonus
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Small question about Immunet Protect......How do I clean the history log if it get to full between the Summary and Scan section. ???
Thank you.
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Does immunet detection lowers when an internet connection is super slow?^^
Thanks^^
-AnimeLover^^
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I think I skip that test me to, but thanks for the information thought.
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Hi users of Immunet Protect,
@YoKenny
The information confirms that YoKenny did not install the latest version 1.0.17 or he should have known better - latest version supports avast and ThreatFire for that matter. The info you point to is obsolete..
@ SpeedyPC The log can be set from 24 hours to 7 days or to one year...Set it to a day then....
polonus
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Hi users of Immunet Protect,
@YoKenny
The information confirms that YoKenny did not install the latest version 1.0.17 or he should have known better - latest version supports avast and ThreatFire for that matter. The info you point to is obsolete..
@ SpeedyPC The log can be set from 24 hours to 7 days or to one year...Set it to a day then....
polonus
Nowhere on their site does it indicate what the latest version is.
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The latest version I have on my PC is 1.0.18 ;)
@ Polonus thank you ;)
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Does immunet detection lowers when an internet connection is super slow?^^
Thanks^^
-AnimeLover^^
Please answer my question^^
Thanks^^ ;D
-AnimeLover^^
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Hi +AdDicT+,
As long as you have connection you have Immunet Protect.
I downloaded a program - a photo-editor plug in to refresh old photo's - AKVIS Retoucher.
(I prohibit extra downloads from the downloadsite just the setup file)/ the download was from a official download site, because there are also torrent downloads as I would not trust these.
I scanned the download link first against malcode, then downloaded and this was scanned
against avast, MBAM and SAS and a-squared. All green.
During the install procedure my Immunet Protect neatly followed all the various installs during the complete procedure. Glad I can report Immunet Protect scans from within the cloud all that lands on your computer,
polonus
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I now have it running on all 3 systems :)
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Last question could someone please advise me the recommended setup setting for Immunet Protect and could you please explain why do you recommended these settings.
Thank you.
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Hi SpeedyPC,
I would go for Immunet Protect full settings, because it does not weigh heavy on the old cycles and give you all the real time in the cloud alerts on what is scanned on entering your machine or whenever you install some download. I give you an idea of what I sniffed from Immunet Protect communication with my computer XP SP3:
3 UDP 10.0.0.150 174.129.10.48 1167 53 phone 2
313 Bytes 471 Bytes 2.2 KB/Sec 25-10-2009 21:47:07:140 25-10-2009 21:47:07:265
00000000 A5 5F 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 41 55 75 ._...... ....*AUu
00000010 35 35 45 70 46 66 79 72 59 74 2D 42 35 45 70 4B 55EpFfyr Yt-B5EpK
00000020 4C 6F 6A 42 45 2D 42 34 48 6A 51 41 51 41 4D 41 LojBE-B4 HjQAQAMA
00000030 51 41 41 45 67 41 41 01 61 07 69 6D 6D 75 6E 65 QAAEgAA. a.immune
00000040 74 03 63 6F 6D 00 00 10 00 01 t.com... ..
00000000 A5 5F 84 80 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 2A 41 55 75 ._...... ....*AUu
00000010 35 35 45 70 46 66 79 72 59 74 2D 42 35 45 70 4B 55EpFfyr Yt-B5EpK
00000020 4C 6F 6A 42 45 2D 42 34 48 6A 51 41 51 41 4D 41 LojBE-B4 HjQAQAMA
00000030 51 41 41 45 67 41 41 01 61 07 69 6D 6D 75 6E 65 QAAEgAA. a.immune
00000040 74 03 63 6F 6D 00 00 10 00 01 2A 41 55 75 35 35 t.com... ..*AUu55
00000050 45 70 46 66 79 72 59 74 2D 42 35 45 70 4B 4C 6F EpFfyrYt -B5EpKLo
00000060 6A 42 45 2D 42 34 48 6A 51 41 51 41 4D 41 51 41 jBE-B4Hj QAQAMAQA
00000070 41 45 67 41 41 01 61 07 69 6D 6D 75 6E 65 74 03 AEgAA.a. immunet.
00000080 63 6F 6D 00 00 10 00 01 00 00 0E 10 00 61 60 41 com..... .....a`A
00000090 51 46 4E 75 65 52 4B 42 51 41 41 41 45 68 70 41 QFNueRKB QAAAEhpA
000000A0 45 4E 4B 53 51 41 41 41 41 41 77 4C 67 49 56 41 ENKSQAAA AAwLgIVA
000000B0 6D 31 67 37 2B 6F 79 4D 53 50 52 57 57 62 4A 34 m1g7+oyM SPRWWbJ4
000000C0 4A 44 77 4B 78 6B 51 4E 4A 48 64 41 68 55 44 35 JDwKxkQN JHdAhUD5
000000D0 44 67 51 6F 58 35 34 63 78 72 52 76 6B 6F 74 71 DgQoX54c xrRvkotq
000000E0 78 30 48 76 36 61 47 32 38 67 41 41 41 41 41 x0Hv6aG2 8gAAAAA
polonus
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Last question could someone please advise me the recommended setup setting for Immunet Protect and could you please explain why do you recommended these settings.
Thank you.
I have everything "on" except for ... Verbose Tray Notifications ... and all seems well. I did this several days after the initial installation. All settings were left at default until the several days later.
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Thanks CharleyO and Polonus you're very helpful ;) ;D
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You are welcome, SpeedyPC. :)
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