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Title: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
It is free for personal use and there is no difference between the paid version and free version

http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Defrag-Download.html

Features

Puran Intelligent Optimizer - PIOZR
Directories Consolidation for speed boost
Optimization by Freeing Space
Automatic Defragmentation for worry free defrag
Boot Time Defragmentation for system files like MFT
Low Priority Defrag for work while defrag experience
Individual File/Folder Defrag for selective defrag
GUI and Console Command Line Defrag Supported
Restart/Shutdown After Boot Time Defragmentation
File/Folder Exclusion or exclusion by wildcard facility
Native support for 64Bit Windows
Supports Windows Xp/2003/Vista/2008/7

How do you rate?

This software is free

Both the paid version and free version are the same and have same features
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on January 31, 2010, 12:57:03 PM
sounds defragmentation is becoming a high pole of attraction these days  ???
(http://www.puransoftware.com/featureslook.png)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on January 31, 2010, 01:15:45 PM
Looks and sounds great!

Maybe, I'll try this one later...

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on January 31, 2010, 01:17:41 PM
yeah, all these people watching the laptop while defragging's in action, must be great  8)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
yeah, all these people watching the laptop while defragging's in action, must be great  8)

Hahaha  ;D ;D ;D

I just tried it just now and I find an increase in speed. I used Perfect Disk before.

Maybe it is just a placebo effect but this software is great
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on January 31, 2010, 01:25:09 PM
For  $19.95 USD I'll skip it.

Windows 7 automatically defrags weekly for me.

Defraggler from Piriform the maker of CCleaner is all I need for XP:
http://www.piriform.com/defraggler/features
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cakedoer2 on January 31, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
Yeah, Defraggler and CCleaner are great, I use the latter daily. =D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on January 31, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
yeah, all these people watching the laptop while defragging's in action, must be great  8)

Hahaha  ;D ;D ;D

I just tried it just now and I find an increase in speed. I used Perfect Disk before.

Maybe it is just a placebo effect but this software is great
Have u tried its boot-time defrag? Sounds great to work on,.,.hmmm...Im going to use this one right now out of curiosity^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 01:34:06 PM
@ addict

I didn't try the boot time scan but I find this option intresting

@YoKenny @cakedoer2

There is no need to buy the paid version

Both the paid version and free version are the same and offer the same features

This software is free

Get it here

http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Defrag-Download.html

I am a great fan of Piriform
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on January 31, 2010, 01:41:46 PM
Hmm finished downloading and going to install now..*heart throbbing sensationally..*

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on January 31, 2010, 01:46:51 PM
I'll see if after 30 days it becomes "Nagware":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagware
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on January 31, 2010, 01:48:21 PM
Installed smoothly...going to report tomorrow after I use this before I sleep^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on January 31, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
people just a warning, this has happened to me a few times on XP/32...Vista/32...and Seven/64 >>> data corruption following boot time defrag, on two different machines, with O&O (and diskeeper too I think).
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 01:52:30 PM
@ Addict

Make sure you tick mark some needed Advanced options under Additional Operations like

Fill Gaps to avoid Frequent Fragmentation

Optimize directories for Faster System Access

Free Some Space For Windows Temporary Files On Faster Disk Access

Boost Overall Speed by Puran Intelligent Optimizer (PIOZR)

Edited

@ YoKenny

This software was first released on 9 August 2007 as beta Version 1.0

Latest update was on 07 January 2010 Version 7.0

So, it is more than 30 days old already
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on January 31, 2010, 01:56:44 PM
Copied!^^

Thanks Chris^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on January 31, 2010, 02:07:46 PM
Nothing wrong to give a try to a new and great defragmentation software :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on January 31, 2010, 02:35:13 PM
@ YoKenny

This software was first released on 9 August 2007 as beta Version 1.0

Latest update was on 07 January 2010 Version 7.0

So, it is more than 30 days old already

Version 7.0 is not 30 days old its only 31-7=24 days from their site.

On fileforum (January 28, 2010) its only been there 3 days with 2 negative reviews already by Vivek Kowshik and BIL:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Puran-Defrag/1189519165/1
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 04:09:05 PM
@ YoKenny

I didn't know you was talking abt Version 7.0.

Yes, Version 7.0 is has not reached 30 days

This thread was created to gather the opinion of Avast forum users on Puran Defrag not to bang different products against it.

I am not selling this software
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2010, 04:50:49 PM
YoKenny,
Why the negative attitude ???
If you personally don't like it, that's your prerogative but not a reason to get pesky .  :o
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on January 31, 2010, 05:09:39 PM
YoKenny,
Why the negative attitude ???
If you personally don't like it, that's your prerogative but not a reason to get pesky .  :o
Its not that I don't like its just that I have been burned by nagware before.

Note that avast! is not listed
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Examples of nagware are Windows Genuine Advantage, WinRAR, WinZip, mIRC, BitDefender 2009 Free Edition, AVG, Avira and Snood. Some of these programs pop-up a window after their trial period is up telling the user to buy the program (or for WGA, to install a genuine copy of Windows). LimeWire or Antivir similarly reminds the user to update to the Pro version, although the free version is not just a free trial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagware

What is Nagware?
Quote
Nagware, also called guiltware or annoyware, is a pop-up reminder that appears with trial versions of computer programs. Many trial versions of games, programs or additional features use nagware to alert the user to pay or register after the trial period has expired. The term derives its name from its function of “nagging” the user to take a specific action.

Many programming companies like to offer short trial periods of their software, understanding that a user may not be willing to buy the program unless they can fully explore it. These trials, called shareware, allow either full program access or a stripped down version of the program. Most shareware trials have a time limit on them, either of total minutes the program is used, or a set period of time, usually no more than 30 days. After this limit is up, attempts to open or close the program result in nagware windows.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-nagware.htm

If after 30 days it still works unhampered without "nagging" me to purchase the full version then I will be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Pondus on January 31, 2010, 05:27:43 PM
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If after 30 days it still works unhampered without "nagging" me to purchase the full version then I will be pleasantly surprised.
Some programs stop "nagging" after 30 days, think latest Ad-Aware works like that.....
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: majoMo on January 31, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
Just tried Boot Time Defrag feature. It did the boot defrag without issues (Win XP SP3 32bit).

File placement optimization seems to be good (checked with HighlightSelectedFile  v1.9, by RobL in MyDefrag).

Far better that Auslogic or Defraggler. A good option for those that dislike MyDefrag'interface Map disk. Boot Time Defrag feature is a surplus value for a FREE defrag; in fact I known only a free defrag that has boot time feature: UltraDefrag.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: pinnacle on January 31, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
Yikes, It's the start of the 10th and final round in this heavy weight fight , The way the scoring has gone so far the Judges could decide either way who will be crowned Heavy weight reply of the year. DING...DING... there goes the  bell I don't know about you but I am very excited to see how this match turns out.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2010, 05:54:10 PM
I personally let Win 7 take care of the defragging issue. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on January 31, 2010, 05:57:16 PM
I personally let Win 7 take care of the defragging issue. :)

+1, since Vista, so on 7 as well now, it's the best way >>> best results, ie perceptible results on performance.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 31, 2010, 08:35:53 PM
I only understood why YoKenny loves Internet Explorer after I visited the Hostsman Forum. 8)

I found out that he is one of the moderators there.

So no wonder why he hates Firefox and loves IE

No Offense. Just an observation.

Maybe, just Maybe, He has some other reason than the nagware reason for his negative responses here

What should I call IE?  ;D

Just Joking

And it was nice to hear all your opinions

I did a boot time defrag and the results were fantastic. My system is more fast than before. I had Perfect Disk before using this software

So I would rate Puran Defrag as more better than Perfect Disk atleast on my system
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on January 31, 2010, 08:49:24 PM
Quote
I only understood why YoKenny loves Internet Explorer after I visited the Hostsman Forum. Cool

I found out that he is one of the moderators there.

So no wonder why he hates Firefox and loves IE

wow, a very active place indeed  ;D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on January 31, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
Quote
I only understood why YoKenny loves Internet Explorer after I visited the Hostsman Forum. Cool

I found out that he is one of the moderators there.

So no wonder why he hates Firefox and loves IE

wow, a very active place indeed  ;D

Maybe because there are no caustic people there ???
Quote
1: capable of destroying or eating away by chemical action : corrosive
2 : marked by incisive sarcasm
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caustic
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 01, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
No harm in giving this a try
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cinchez on February 01, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
Indeed, surprising results!

Just defraged  last night and when I booted up today, boom what an increase of speed..or so I thought,,,

I personally timed it^^

Better than any defrags I tried in the yesteryears...^^

Gotta use the boot time defrag,,,

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CharleyO on February 01, 2010, 01:19:29 PM
***

Puran Defrag does seem to be better than those I have used in the past ... at least on my system.


***
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 01, 2010, 03:46:26 PM
Great program.  :)

BTW guys, you should also check out Puran Defrag my 3rd favorite commercial defrag, seriously it is a very very powerfull product and it allows you to SCHEDULE boot time defrags which i think is very cool. It also has a very smart optimization strategy, one which i feel can rival anything out there. Seriously good program. The price is very low aswell.  8)

http://www.puransoftware.com/Puran-Defrag.html
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 06, 2010, 08:44:23 AM
I am using this from Jan 31 2010

I challenge you to use it

Because it is way much better on my system than Auslogics Disk Defrag, Defraggler or any other freeware product.

Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: majoMo on February 06, 2010, 03:04:26 PM
By Donn Edwards, a well-informed analizer defrag programs about:


Source: http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2010/01/purandefrag-for-home-users-at-no-cost.html
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: anjandavid on February 06, 2010, 03:12:34 PM
hi,

I have tried today. its OK.its seems to me slightly slow than other freewere.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 07, 2010, 03:54:12 AM
This is because it do more task :)
I've notice that Puran Defrag also defrag/optimise places that some defragmenters don't do that.
And also it defrags the registry.
Hm...Defraggler and Auslogic don't defrag the registry right?
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: pinnacle on February 07, 2010, 04:05:40 AM
Well, i used Diskeeper for years but stopped using it for the same reason i would not use this one i just do not like it running all the time in the background ( automatic ), This is just my point of view nothing more.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 07, 2010, 04:07:13 AM
Mine don't run in the background :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: pinnacle on February 07, 2010, 04:12:22 AM
So, what your saying is there is an option to enable or disable it from doing automatic constant defragging  and it can be just run when you feel its necessary. if thats the case then it would be worth trying it out.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 07, 2010, 04:50:20 AM
Yup it is like that :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: pinnacle on February 07, 2010, 05:05:09 AM
Superb I am downloading it now Thanks
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 07, 2010, 05:40:21 AM
Haha you should thank Chris for showing us the existence of this software^^
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 07, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
What i've always loved with this program is the ability to schedule boot time defrags. The only thing i dislike is the gui, it's really ugly if you ask me but hey as long as the program does it's job properly. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 07, 2010, 10:40:07 AM
Some thing you might forget

Make sure you tick mark some needed Advanced options under 'Additional Operations' like

Fill Gaps to avoid Frequent Fragmentation

Optimize directories for Faster System Access

Free Some Space For Windows Temporary Files On Faster Disk Access

Boost Overall Speed by Puran Intelligent Optimizer (PIOZR)

I have made this my default ...
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 07, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
I'd say this is more user preference, i for one don't like the Free Some Space For Windows Temporary Files On Faster Disk Access option. I don't want it leaving free space at the start of the partition, i prefer system files to be there.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 07, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Agreed!
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on February 07, 2010, 11:42:36 AM
guys, unless you have a 75% percent fragmented disk (which could be the sign of a defective hard disk  ;D) , the impact of fragmentation these days, with the speed of read/write/access times with recent hardware, is minimal, except at boot time may be. Once you're logged in, and your system drivers and services have finished loading, whether your system is properly defragmented or not doesn't make any difference anymore (ie applications start just as fast). So considerations like system files in the beginning of a partition etc...such considerations are completely outdated, it just doesn't matter anymore while defragmenter providers are still using the arguments again and again  ::)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 07, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
Thanks for the recommendation Chris I'm gonna save it via notepad!
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 07, 2010, 02:44:05 PM
Nonsense. Being an enthusiastic gamer for quite a few yrs now(think 10+) i can certainly tell you defragging(or should i say optimizing file placement)does help with game load times and sometimes by quite alot. Same with apps. It's only logical that a program residing on a faster disk area loads faster. That is also why some people here reported a reduce in boot up time after they run Puran(Puran moved those system files at the faster hdd area).  Logos go and test your super dooper hdd and then come back and tell us the speed is the same on the inner and outer edges of the hdd. Cause it's not and never will be with classic hdd's. It's true hdd's are faster these days but they are still the biggest bottleneck in a system(by far). I agree that on Vista/7 the defrag does a good job(much better than on say XP) but it still doesn't do any file placement(or directory placement for that matter) which is where a program like Puran comes in. It's true newer hardware doesn't benefit as much with this but it still does. But anyone who has an older computer with an older OS should see quite a good decrease in load times. And yes even on my quad-core win 7 system i see a decrease in boot time if i let Puran do it's "magic". And since the program is free and obviously does a good job i see no reason not to recommend it to everyone.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hermite15 on February 07, 2010, 03:23:37 PM
Quote
Nonsense. Being an enthusiastic gamer...

an enthusiastic fragger/defragger I would say  ;D  ::)

Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 07, 2010, 04:33:20 PM
Nowadays Games come in whopping huge size.....
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 07, 2010, 06:44:21 PM
Yup. ;D

(http://www.shrani.si/t/1X/JI/3ekhPXjy/games.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?1X/JI/3ekhPXjy/games.png)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: hayc59 on February 07, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
I have been using it for about a week now[that they have the free version]
and like it alot! I love the 'boot time' defrag.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 23, 2010, 11:36:45 AM
There is an update available now

Just run Puran Defrag

Click About Puran Defrag

Click Check for update

 8)

Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cod head on February 23, 2010, 12:15:08 PM
Hi Chris Thomas,I have been reading good reviews on this.I only see a trial version option.Does it revert to free after the 30 days and do you get a nag screen after that.Just curious. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 23, 2010, 01:38:52 PM
@ cod head

Their download page is a bit terrible

You can download the Free Version here  8)

http://download.cnet.com/Puran-Defrag-Free-Edition/3000-2094_4-75115626.html?part=dl-6298149&subj=dl&tag=button

Actually,

Both Free Version and Paid Version offer the same features. There is no difference between them.

There is no nag screens or anything
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on February 23, 2010, 02:45:47 PM
I just wish they'd hire a decent graphic designer. The GUI is really ugly and the web page looks like something from 1999. The program is excellent though, small and efficient, i like that.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cod head on February 23, 2010, 03:39:18 PM
Thanks for the link Chris Thomas. ;D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 23, 2010, 04:19:15 PM
@ darth

Absolutely
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Yezinki on February 23, 2010, 05:29:23 PM
Puran vs PD........

1. PD while defraggin in real time takes around 33K of commit charge in XP........while Puran take 44K of memory in Vista.

2. Puran doesnt constantly run in the back ground.

3. Puran fails to defrag page file on boot time.

4. Drive map & statistics of PD is great........boot, rarely, page file, MFT, recently, modified files, directory........excluded.

Dont know whether to say that Puran is better........since tried it only for a day........but I have doubts..........just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Yezinki on February 23, 2010, 05:36:43 PM
Plus Puran fails to put together the meta data despite boot time with CHKDSK........strange?
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: YoKenny on February 23, 2010, 07:19:08 PM
@ Yezinki

You are talking about 2 different things:
Quote
PageDefrag v2.32
By Mark Russinovich
Published: November 1, 2006

Introduction
One of the limitations of the Windows NT/2000 defragmentation interface is that it is not possible to defragment files that are open for exclusive access. Thus, standard defragmentation programs can neither show you how fragmented your paging files or Registry hives are, nor defragment them. Paging and Registry file fragmentation can be one of the leading causes of performance degradation related to file fragmentation in a system.  
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 24, 2010, 06:36:41 AM
@ Yezinki

Perfect Disk is not free. Puran is free. ;D

Probabily the best Freeware Defrag Utiltiy
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: RejZoR on February 24, 2010, 07:24:43 AM
"Puran" means "turkey" (the one that gets it on thanks givings day) in my language. This makes it a bit funny :D But it looks like a nice program.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cod head on February 24, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
I downloaded it yesterday and like it.As Chris Thomas says this one is free for home use.I give it a thumbs up. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 24, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
The files go in disorder in only 10 mins OMG and takes 5-8 mins to make a complete defrag again
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: cod head on February 24, 2010, 04:00:18 PM
I would not know about that.I defrag on a fortnightly to monthly basis..
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on February 24, 2010, 06:03:45 PM
I would not know about that.I defrag on a fortnightly to monthly basis..
I simply let Windows 7 do it on it's own.  :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Lisandro on February 24, 2010, 06:09:18 PM
Auslogic and the free O&O v10 do the job also.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: disPlay on February 25, 2010, 12:17:04 AM
I love the defragger from auslogic
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Mayflower on November 06, 2012, 10:43:58 AM
What about W8´s built in defrag or Puran Defrag?   :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 06, 2012, 11:30:16 AM
What about W8´s built in defrag or Puran Defrag?   :)
Other than the not so obvious to you ;) you've posted in a nearly three year old topic so windows 8 was not around then.

Aside from that puran defrag is good and the built in defragmenter in win8 is also good with more improvements in speed and defragmenting compared to win7.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Mayflower on November 06, 2012, 11:47:40 AM
What about W8´s built in defrag or Puran Defrag?

Aside from that puran defrag is good and the built in defragmenter in win8 is also good with more improvements in speed and defragmenting compared to win7.

I wish to see a comparison of win8 defrag and Puran defrag.  :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Asyn on November 06, 2012, 11:59:10 AM
I wish to see a comparison of win8 defrag and Puran defrag.  :)

I doubt that such a comparison is available (yet). ;D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 06, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
I wish to see a comparison of win8 defrag and Puran defrag.  :)
I don't know where you'll find one but google will be your best chance, my own comparison is justified by my use of win8 :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Lisandro on November 06, 2012, 12:05:53 PM
Puran Defrag (now into Puran Utilities) does not installed smoothly in my W8. Although it seems to be working.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on November 06, 2012, 02:35:45 PM
Puran in my opinion, is the best defrag utility bar none. It has so many options and will defragment the page file, MFT , and registry in a boot time defrag. I usually just use the optimize directories option but every once in a while I will also do the fill gaps and let the PIOZR optimization run. The program will keep your machine running at peak efficiency with no need to use the autodefrag options if you run it once a month or so. It's also very fast.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: schmidthouse on November 06, 2012, 05:26:03 PM
Puran in my opinion, is the best defrag utility bar none. It has so many options and will defragment the page file, MFT , and registry in a boot time defrag. I usually just use the optimize directories option but every once in a while I will also do the fill gaps and let the PIOZR optimization run. The program will keep your machine running at peak efficiency with no need to use the autodefrag options if you run it once a month or so. It's also very fast.

+1

 I also use Puran and agree it is the most effective I have used to date. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Mayflower on November 07, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
Puran Defrag (now into Puran Utilities) does not installed smoothly in my W8. Although it seems to be working.

Better or worse when W8´s defrag?
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2012, 11:28:13 AM
Puran Defrag (now into Puran Utilities) does not installed smoothly in my W8. Although it seems to be working.

Better or worse when W8´s defrag?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the built in win8 defragmenter and it's also incorporated into the new win8 optimisation feature so why not just stick with that as it works very well.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2012, 02:05:37 PM
I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well.  :)
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)
The grass on the other side of my fence might be greener but it's also full of Tiger Snakes ;)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 07, 2012, 02:31:12 PM
The grass on the other side of my fence might be greener but it's also full of Tiger Snakes ;)

Build yourself a electric fence to stop Tiger Snakes coming in ;D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on November 07, 2012, 02:32:24 PM
Puran Defrag (now into Puran Utilities) does not installed smoothly in my W8. Although it seems to be working.

Better or worse when W8´s defrag?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the built in win8 defragmenter and it's also incorporated into the new win8 optimisation feature so why not just stick with that as it works very well.

+1

My favorite feature of the new defrag in Win8:

http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/why-weekly-defrags-are-turned-on-for-ssds-under-windows-8/
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
The grass on the other side of my fence might be greener but it's also full of Tiger Snakes ;)

Build yourself a electric fence to stop Tiger Snakes coming in ;D
Doesn't work Speedy, they just burrow straight under any fence plus I don't think the neighbours would appreciate me electrifying there children :o ;D
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on November 07, 2012, 03:09:12 PM
I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well.  :)
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)
It's because traditionally, the Windows defrag programs have not been very good and have been painfully slow. Even the XP one wasn't that great. I have to admit that I've never even tried the Win 7 one or the Vista one but they are turned on to do a weekly optimization automatically.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well.  :)
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)
It's because traditionally, the Windows defrag programs have not been very good and have been painfully slow. Even the XP one wasn't that great. I have to admit that I've never even tried the Win 7 one or the Vista one but they are turned on to do a weekly optimization automatically.
XP is ancient history which is why many new technologies only work on Windows 7 and 8. Sorry but technology progresses at an ever increasing rate and
if you're not keeping up with it, you'll be left behind. :)


(Our bodies might be aging but our brains have the ability to continue to absorb.)

Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on November 07, 2012, 04:06:12 PM
I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well.  :)
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)
It's because traditionally, the Windows defrag programs have not been very good and have been painfully slow. Even the XP one wasn't that great. I have to admit that I've never even tried the Win 7 one or the Vista one but they are turned on to do a weekly optimization automatically.
XP is ancient history which is why many new technologies only work on Windows 7 and 8. Sorry but technology progresses at an ever increasing rate and
if you're not keeping up with it, you'll be left behind. :)


(Our bodies might be aging but our brains have the ability to continue to absorb.)
Sorry Bob but you've completely missed the point which is that people have known since Windows 95 that the built in Windows defrag program was not very good, or even downright bad. (It was actually a crippled lite version of Diskeeper). Therefore, many people are reluctant to even give the newer versions a chance even when they do keep up with OS changes. Maybe the Win 7 and 8 ones are much better but since I use Puran, I'm reluctant to try out the Win 7 one because I know it will undo all the Puran optimizations and put it's own in place which may or may not be better. Based on past experience , I'm inclined to think it wouldn't be an improvement.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Dch48 as you've stated you have not used the win7 or win8 defrag then you should not be inclined to make assumptions on there abilities compared to puran, I on the other hand tried puran on win7 and it was just as effective as defraggler and both were no better than the built in windows version other than the windows version was slower and auto defragmenting didn't take place until there was at least 15% fragmentation on the disc which was no big issue and didn't hamper performance.

Now "win8" is a whole different kettle of fish again and the defragmentation performance is extremely efficient, MFT is defraged on a daily basis during optimisation without requiring reboots and you don't have to get to 15% for auto defragging to work anymore either so there really is no need to try anything else as windows does all that is needed :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2012, 04:30:55 PM
My point is a very simple one. If you already have the tool as part of your OS and it's working,
Why add a third party app. In Windows 7 the built in defrag worked and has only gotten better in Windows 8.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Mayflower on November 07, 2012, 06:14:03 PM
I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well.  :)
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)

Now "win8" is a whole different kettle of fish again and the defragmentation performance is extremely efficient, MFT is defraged on a daily basis during optimisation without requiring reboots and you don't have to get to 15% for auto defragging to work anymore either so there really is no need to try anything else as windows does all that is needed :)

Thanks!

I guess I will use the win8 built in defrag.

Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: CraigB on November 07, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
Thanks!

I guess I will use the win8 built in defrag.
NP's, you wont be disappointed :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Chris Thomas on November 07, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Windows Defrag till Windows 8 is pretty basic so if we use another defrag tool, your disk performance is increased more than the usual.

Here is a comparison between O&O defrag and Windows 7 Defrag, just a comparison why people doesn't want to use the built in defrag tool.

www.oo-software.com/en/docs/.../whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf


We can't go and fight Aliens using even an Uzi submachine gun even though its a working gun while the Aliens are using high tech plasma gun. Just because something is working doesn't mean its the best.

On Windows 8, so far, the built in defrag tool is good.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
Windows Defrag till Windows 8 is pretty basic so if we use another defrag tool, your disk performance is increased more than the usual.

Here is a comparison between O&O defrag and Windows 7 Defrag, just a comparison why people doesn't want to use the built in defrag tool.

www.oo-software.com/en/docs/.../whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf (http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/.../whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf)


We can't go and fight Aliens using even an Uzi submachine gun even though its a working gun while the Aliens are using high tech plasma gun. Just because something is working doesn't mean its the best.

On Windows 8, so far, the built in defrag tool is good.
Your link doesn't work.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Charyb-0 on November 07, 2012, 11:20:07 PM
Hi Bob,
Try here. -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2012, 06:01:15 PM
Hi Bob,
Try here. -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf (http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf)
Windows 7 is ancient history for me. :)
All my systems are on Windows 8
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: RejZoR on November 08, 2012, 06:50:18 PM
Windows 7 is stilla  great OS. At least it doesn't have some forced on retarded front end like Win8 with its stupid Metro junk. You can read more on my blog why i think so.

As for the defrag, i just have Win7 defrag enabled and it seems to do just fine. You only really need some alternative on WinXP which has a bit rubbish defragmenter...
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
I only see the "retarded front end" if I select it.
I boot to this:


(http://puu.sh/1nTph)




and access most items this this way:


(http://puu.sh/1nTmh)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on November 08, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
Again you're missing the point which is not how good the newer versions of the Windows defragger are or aren't. The point is that because earlier versions were so bad, many people will automatically look for a different solution and never even try the built in one. That's the answer to why people look elsewhere. They assume, rightly or wrongly, that the built in utility is inferior and never use it.

As far as automatic defragging goes, I never have it turned on because I think it causes needless wear and tear on your hard drive. The automatic feature of the built in Windows program does not do a full defrag but rather only optimizes system files and performance of those when it kicks in. In Win 7 it only runs for a short time if at all. I play a lot of PC games and every time one gets a major update it causes massive fragmentation of the game files. These files can be a few gigabytes in size each so the fragmentation percentage of the drive as a whole goes up drastically even though it's only a relatively small group of files that are actually fragmented.. Keeping those files contiguous produces significant improvement in game performance. Other than after game updates or installations, I rarely defragment at all.

One of the biggest reasons why I don't use the Win 7 program is that it gives you absolutely no information as to what it's doing when it runs. I turned it on one time and that was it for me. I didn't even let it finish. I at least want to see a graphical depiction of the file placements on my disc and the Win 7 utility doesn't have that where even the inferior XP utility did.

Here are only some of the things the Win 7 program can not do that Puran can:

It can not consolidate free space and fill gaps in between files to prevent future fragmentation. (very important)
It can not defragment the MFT or other metadata.
It can not be used to defragment only specified files or folders.
It can not be set to exclude specified files or folders.
It can not be set to run at boot time.

The Win 7 utility is still a basic tool in comparison to other alternatives. End of story. I'll have to read up on how the Win 8 version has been improved but my motivation is somewhat lacking as I don't ever see myself going to the newer OS.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2012, 07:40:06 PM
Everything in here are suggestions.
You or any one else simply chooses the option they want.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Charyb-0 on November 08, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
I realize that Puran has more bells and whistles than the others. But, does all this really make a noticeable difference in performance?

Please read here -> http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the_disk_defrag_difference

This article dates back to 2008 and doesn't contain Puran (and many others) but could not find any newer benchmark tests. The final results don't appear impressive. If anyone has any links to newer benchmarking tests that might include Puran as well as Defraggler, Auslogics, W7, W8, etc. I would really like to read the results.

I use the W7 defrag utility and have it set to defrag the last day of each month. I use Defraggler on XP.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Nesivos on November 08, 2012, 08:59:55 PM
The optimization of the files on your drive is not the same for all defrag software that performs optimization.

I never liked W7 defragger.   Now that I am back on W7 I use a third party software for defragging my computers' disk drives.  I have tried Puran.  I found it way to slow.  I use another brand but won't mention its name because it is made by a company whose name we don't mention on this forum. 8)

When I was using W8 pre RTM I used the W8 defragger because I was a little concerned about compatibility issues with W8.   I haven't decided what I will use when I go back on W8.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: schmidthouse on November 08, 2012, 09:01:31 PM
Quote Snip>

One of the biggest reasons why I don't use the Win 7 program is that it gives you absolutely no information as to what it's doing when it runs. I turned it on one time and that was it for me. I didn't even let it finish. I at least want to see a graphical depiction of the file placements on my disc and the Win 7 utility doesn't have that where even the inferior XP utility did.

The Win 7 utility is still a basic tool in comparison to other alternatives. End of story. I'll have to read up on how the Win 8 version has been improved but my motivation is somewhat lacking as I don't ever see myself going to the newer OS.

I've just jumped into Window8 and as far as the 'Disk Optimiser' with Windows8 I don't see any info given on whats happening and certainly no "graphical depiction of the file placement" that I have found.
Don't like that either. :-\ :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: TheHulk on November 10, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
i used auslogic disk defrag before and seems it messed up the sound settings...

now sticking with windows defrag
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Arnold72 on November 18, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Im not a big fan of puran software.
Over at wilders security forum there is a big thread on the ethics of the author as it was discovered he was allowing spyware to come bundled with his software.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=331493&highlight=puran+utilities

You may find it an interesting thread. 8)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: DavidR on November 18, 2012, 03:41:50 PM
I think that the wilders topic is way over blown, I don't know where you get the ethics bit from, I'm no fan of toolbars, but there are opt-out options. Just as there are opt-outs for Chrome in the avast installation.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on November 18, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
I think that the wilders topic is way over blown, I don't know where you get the ethics bit from, I'm no fan of toolbars, but there are opt-out options. Just as there are opt-outs for Chrome in the avast installation.
I couldn't agree more. As long as you can opt out, I see nothing wrong with offering toolbars or other software. Some people actually use that stuff.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Mayflower on March 02, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
Did a very quick comparsion of W8 built in defrag and Pura Defrag 7.6, with help of MyDefrag for analys.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Arnold72 on March 02, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
Did a very quick comparsion of W8 built in defrag and Pura Defrag 7.6, with help of MyDefrag for analys.
@mayflower.
I think if you run every single defragger in existence there would be inconsistencies in everyone of them so i dont see any relevance in your findings other than perhaps puran gives slighly better results.

I use mydefrag which seems effective and i stick with it rather than chopping and changing which to me is a pointless exercise. 8)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Dch48 on March 02, 2013, 06:17:47 PM
If you set Puran to eliminate the gaps, it will do just that. There is no such option in the Windows utility. I always leave that option  and the one to optimize the directories on. I also will occasionally use the PIOZR optimizing and it noticeably speeds things up. Another thing I do before defragging is turn off System Restore so that all the restore points get deleted and can't cause problems. After the defrag is done, I turn System Restore back on and create a new base restore point.

I still think Puran is as good as it gets for defragging.
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: schmidthouse on March 02, 2013, 06:41:43 PM

 Another thing I do before defragging is turn off System Restore so that all the restore points get deleted and can't cause problems. After the defrag is done, I turn System Restore back on and create a new base restore point.

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I also have followed this particular practice for years on my XP and agree. Of course one needs to remember to turn System Restore back on!
On my Win8 I can simply delete Restore point without turning anything off hence don't have to worry about forgetting. :)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: Arnold72 on March 02, 2013, 06:47:31 PM
@schmidthouse.
I have turned system restore off totally and dont see the need for it anymore.Restoring an image is cleaner and quicker too. 8)
Title: Re: Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?
Post by: schmidthouse on March 02, 2013, 06:50:27 PM
@schmidthouse.
I have turned system restore off totally and dont see the need for it anymore.Restoring an image is cleaner and quicker too. 8)

I can't disagree there.
It's just something I have not gotten into or frankly, needed too [yet] in all the years PCing.....restoring an image I mean. ;) :)