Puran Defrag - Have anyone tried it out?

[Mayflower]

I've always been puzzled why it's human nature to look for something "better" when,
what they already already have is working well. 
(I know, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.)

Now "win8" is a whole different kettle of fish again and the defragmentation performance is extremely efficient, MFT is defraged on a daily basis during optimisation without requiring reboots and you don't have to get to 15% for auto defragging to work anymore either so there really is no need to try anything else as windows does all that is needed

Thanks!

I guess I will use the win8 built in defrag.

[CraigB]

Thanks!

I guess I will use the win8 built in defrag.

NP's, you wont be disappointed

[Chris Thomas]

Windows Defrag till Windows 8 is pretty basic so if we use another defrag tool, your disk performance is increased more than the usual.

Here is a comparison between O&O defrag and Windows 7 Defrag, just a comparison why people doesn't want to use the built in defrag tool.

www.oo-software.com/en/docs/.../whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf


We can't go and fight Aliens using even an Uzi submachine gun even though its a working gun while the Aliens are using high tech plasma gun. Just because something is working doesn't mean its the best.

On Windows 8, so far, the built in defrag tool is good.

[bob3160]

Windows Defrag till Windows 8 is pretty basic so if we use another defrag tool, your disk performance is increased more than the usual.

Here is a comparison between O&O defrag and Windows 7 Defrag, just a comparison why people doesn't want to use the built in defrag tool.

www.oo-software.com/en/docs/.../whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf


We can't go and fight Aliens using even an Uzi submachine gun even though its a working gun while the Aliens are using high tech plasma gun. Just because something is working doesn't mean its the best.

On Windows 8, so far, the built in defrag tool is good.

Your link doesn't work.

[Charyb-0]

Hi Bob,
Try here. -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf

[bob3160]

Hi Bob,
Try here. -> http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/whitepaper_oodvswin7_en.pdf

Windows 7 is ancient history for me.
All my systems are on Windows 8

[RejZoR]

Windows 7 is stilla  great OS. At least it doesn't have some forced on retarded front end like Win8 with its stupid Metro junk. You can read more on my blog why i think so.

As for the defrag, i just have Win7 defrag enabled and it seems to do just fine. You only really need some alternative on WinXP which has a bit rubbish defragmenter...

[bob3160]

I only see the "retarded front end" if I select it.
I boot to this:







and access most items this this way:

[Dch48]

Again you're missing the point which is not how good the newer versions of the Windows defragger are or aren't. The point is that because earlier versions were so bad, many people will automatically look for a different solution and never even try the built in one. That's the answer to why people look elsewhere. They assume, rightly or wrongly, that the built in utility is inferior and never use it.

As far as automatic defragging goes, I never have it turned on because I think it causes needless wear and tear on your hard drive. The automatic feature of the built in Windows program does not do a full defrag but rather only optimizes system files and performance of those when it kicks in. In Win 7 it only runs for a short time if at all. I play a lot of PC games and every time one gets a major update it causes massive fragmentation of the game files. These files can be a few gigabytes in size each so the fragmentation percentage of the drive as a whole goes up drastically even though it's only a relatively small group of files that are actually fragmented.. Keeping those files contiguous produces significant improvement in game performance. Other than after game updates or installations, I rarely defragment at all.

One of the biggest reasons why I don't use the Win 7 program is that it gives you absolutely no information as to what it's doing when it runs. I turned it on one time and that was it for me. I didn't even let it finish. I at least want to see a graphical depiction of the file placements on my disc and the Win 7 utility doesn't have that where even the inferior XP utility did.

Here are only some of the things the Win 7 program can not do that Puran can:

It can not consolidate free space and fill gaps in between files to prevent future fragmentation. (very important)
It can not defragment the MFT or other metadata.
It can not be used to defragment only specified files or folders.
It can not be set to exclude specified files or folders.
It can not be set to run at boot time.

The Win 7 utility is still a basic tool in comparison to other alternatives. End of story. I'll have to read up on how the Win 8 version has been improved but my motivation is somewhat lacking as I don't ever see myself going to the newer OS.

[bob3160]

Everything in here are suggestions.
You or any one else simply chooses the option they want.

[Charyb-0]

I realize that Puran has more bells and whistles than the others. But, does all this really make a noticeable difference in performance?

Please read here -> http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the_disk_defrag_difference

This article dates back to 2008 and doesn't contain Puran (and many others) but could not find any newer benchmark tests. The final results don't appear impressive. If anyone has any links to newer benchmarking tests that might include Puran as well as Defraggler, Auslogics, W7, W8, etc. I would really like to read the results.

I use the W7 defrag utility and have it set to defrag the last day of each month. I use Defraggler on XP.

[Nesivos]

The optimization of the files on your drive is not the same for all defrag software that performs optimization.

I never liked W7 defragger.   Now that I am back on W7 I use a third party software for defragging my computers' disk drives.  I have tried Puran.  I found it way to slow.  I use another brand but won't mention its name because it is made by a company whose name we don't mention on this forum.

When I was using W8 pre RTM I used the W8 defragger because I was a little concerned about compatibility issues with W8.   I haven't decided what I will use when I go back on W8.

[schmidthouse]

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One of the biggest reasons why I don't use the Win 7 program is that it gives you absolutely no information as to what it's doing when it runs. I turned it on one time and that was it for me. I didn't even let it finish. I at least want to see a graphical depiction of the file placements on my disc and the Win 7 utility doesn't have that where even the inferior XP utility did.

The Win 7 utility is still a basic tool in comparison to other alternatives. End of story. I'll have to read up on how the Win 8 version has been improved but my motivation is somewhat lacking as I don't ever see myself going to the newer OS.

I've just jumped into Window8 and as far as the 'Disk Optimiser' with Windows8 I don't see any info given on whats happening and certainly no "graphical depiction of the file placement" that I have found.
Don't like that either.

[TheHulk]

i used auslogic disk defrag before and seems it messed up the sound settings...

now sticking with windows defrag

[Arnold72]

Im not a big fan of puran software.
Over at wilders security forum there is a big thread on the ethics of the author as it was discovered he was allowing spyware to come bundled with his software.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=331493&highlight=puran+utilities

You may find it an interesting thread.