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Title: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 09, 2010, 09:12:39 PM
The program update has now been officially released as 5.0.418.
Thanks to everyone who helped testing.


Hi *,

we'll soon be releasing a new build of avast 5 Free/Pro/IS. As usual, we're making the build available for public testing before it's officially released.

How to get it
links removed

How to install it
Just run the setup executable (links above). You can either install it from scratch, or on top of an existing avast installation (installing over both 5.0.xxx or 4.8.yyy should be fine). A reboot will be required to complete the installation

What's new
Most notable improvements include:
- stability improvements in the Behavior Shield
- an attempt to solve the compatibility issue with MBAM Pro
- improvements in the rootkit scanner
- solved a vulnerability in AavmKer4.sys (Windows 2000/XP only)
- firewall: low-level packet rules are back in the Expert settings
- new languages: Traditional Chinese, Swedish, Korean, Bulgarian, Hungarian. This makes the current number of supported languages 16

Bottom line: we're hoping that this build will finally solve the remaining bsod/hang issues.


Thanks much
Vlk

PS. Just a while ago, we have launched the new website in Japanese and Polish. This makes the number of languages in which the new website is available 8 (English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Italian, Japanese and Polish). More are coming soon.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.04.15]
Post by: Rednose on February 09, 2010, 09:17:12 PM
Thnx guys :)

Installed it over the top, and that worked perfectly well :) And the IE 32 virtualisation bug is fixed. Well done Peter :D

Greetz, Red
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.04.15]
Post by: coper on February 09, 2010, 09:38:58 PM
Hi VLK. I hope you remember to fix the problem in the transition from free to paid versions of Internet Security version. For some reason the firewall couldnt turn on even after clicking on the manual activation button.  ::) did not check whether it is in this version repaired.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: essexboy on February 09, 2010, 09:49:24 PM
Pulling it down now - although I have had a trouble free installations and operation since the last beta refresh

Windows 7 64 bit
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: sded on February 09, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
Installed with no problems over .396
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 09, 2010, 09:56:50 PM
I hope they do better than "attempt" to fix the MBAM compatibility issue.  :P
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: coolsilver on February 09, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
*Gibbs slap*


Downloading now.... I'm sure any attempt from the avast team would be far better than the best effort of mine.

Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 09, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
I hope they do better than "attempt" to fix the MBAM compatibility issue.  :P

I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 09, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
I hope they do better than "attempt" to fix the MBAM compatibility issue.  :P

I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
Hi Isn't MBAM an anti-spyware app like SAS etc.?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: logos on February 09, 2010, 10:10:32 PM
I'm downloading it now, will report back tomorrow  ;)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: pinnacle on February 09, 2010, 10:10:49 PM
no issues here with install over 396 fast and seamless
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 09, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
I hope they do better than "attempt" to fix the MBAM compatibility issue.  :P

I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
Hi Isn't MBAM an anti-spyware app like SAS etc.?

It doesn't matter in this case. The MBAM realtime protection works exactly the same as a typical AV.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 09, 2010, 10:36:52 PM
I hope they do better than "attempt" to fix the MBAM compatibility issue.  :P

I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
Hi Isn't MBAM an anti-spyware app like SAS etc.?

It doesn't matter in this case. The MBAM realtime protection works exactly the same as a typical AV.
WOW so that's why there's a problem. I actually had the problem before I installed Avast!. It appeared as soon as I upgraded to the real time version. That was a week before I installed Avast! and I was using NOD32. Perhaps the MBAM folks could modify in some way.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: mattburles on February 09, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
still no problems here even with this build!  ;D
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Silent Assassin on February 09, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
I've just installed this pre-release build on the top of ver. 5.0.396 with no problems at all - the update went smoothly and quickly :).

Thank you for your work guys!
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: essexboy on February 09, 2010, 11:13:16 PM
A seamless transition - no problems

Nice one
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Avastfan1 on February 10, 2010, 12:58:08 AM
Installed successfully and rebooted ok.

Can't test the manual update freeze problem yet as it never freezes when the virus definitions and programme are up-to-date.

Will have to wait until tomorrow when a new virus definition file update is available.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: ArtemisF0wl on February 10, 2010, 01:38:42 AM
Flawless! I installed over the top of .396 and I even installed the behavior shield just for kicks... ;D  (x64 win 7)

About the MBAM issue, it seems alot better if IP Protection is disabled on Malwarebytes. For me, my system still feels too heavy running both Avast! and MBAM at the same time. I don't think it's got anything to do with Avast! though, probably any AV+another resident scanner is too much to expect top performance.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: sded on February 10, 2010, 01:55:02 AM
ArtemisFOwl, could you see if the procedure MBAM developed for MSE referenced at http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55210.msg467962#msg467962 helps?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: ArtemisF0wl on February 10, 2010, 02:07:32 AM
sure, ill gladly test it and report back. thanks
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 10, 2010, 02:22:17 AM
Man you guys are right on time! Been fixing an HP printer program that shut down .396 where it wouldn't "fix" or "Repair" ot 'change" and restart the engine. Started to remove it when I saw Vik's update. So I ran .415 over top of .396 broken and it Worked!!!!
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: olddog on February 10, 2010, 02:50:44 AM
Installed 5.0.415 over existing 5.0.396. No problems experienced so far, but then I only have the free (on demand) version of Malwarebyes.

Vlk - Have you done your blog on the behaviour shield yet, and if so how do I find it?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Hopper15 on February 10, 2010, 02:55:12 AM
VLK how long will the 4.8 version be available?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: ArtemisF0wl on February 10, 2010, 03:06:33 AM
ArtemisFOwl, could you see if the procedure MBAM developed for MSE referenced at http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55210.msg467962#msg467962 helps?

Seems okay! Adding MBAM to the exclusions in Avast! was slightly different, because i couldn't seem to add a single file as was outlined in the guide. Instead , I had to add the folder path          Program Files(x86)>Malwarebytes'-AntiMalware    

I did that in the main settings and file system shield, reboot. MBAM service starts after about 2 minutes or so, because it sets itself to Automatic(delay start)

Everything seems certainly better, but browsing to a large folder there is some noticeable slowdown. As far as the way my system "feels", it is not as heavy as before which means that it helps. The difference is noticeable in my opinion, I can live with it ;)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cadremis on February 10, 2010, 03:08:35 AM
Installed 5.0.415 over 5.0.396 with no problems, quick scan in malwarebytes took 14 minutes to acomplish, in 5.0.396 took about 18 minutes, malwarebytes stills freezes a little bit when scanning and I wonder Why in 4.8 took only 8 or 9 minutes to finish if I still have the same files in my PC... I use Malwarebytes ondemand scanner no the pro version.

First attempt to correct the problems is good, it can get a little better!...rm
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Francois Blais on February 10, 2010, 03:42:16 AM
I had previously disabled MBAM real-time.
Am presently using PrevX. (and PrivateFirewall 7.0.20.36)
I also disabled AVAST 5.0.0.396 (free) file agent. (the only agent I had installed anyway)
Installed build 415 on top and rebooted.
When I right-clicked on the AVAST tray icon and chose to reenable the file agent, it froze...
Mouse was moving, but evertything else was frozen, PC irresponsive.
I'm presently uploading the memory dump, named "FBlais.7z" this time.
Upon reboot, AVAST is running so far...

Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cazoza on February 10, 2010, 04:47:24 AM
I will test it doing an upgrade from 4.8, and i will post the results, because as i see, installing it over 5.0.396 doesn't have issues (so far) so i need to check if i can upgrade from 4.8 to this version. And Thankz for this pre-release build. You guys at alwill team do a great job.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 10, 2010, 04:47:57 AM
i bought three 3 pc lic keys for 2 years each i applied this update to one of my systems and it says invalid product key now. is this due to it being a pre release or is there something really wrong with my key. i have not updated the rest of them and they say they are fine still. thanks
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Snagglegrain on February 10, 2010, 05:15:19 AM
I will test it doing an upgrade from 4.8, and i will post the results, because as i see, installing it over 5.0.396 doesn't have issues (so far) so i need to check if i can upgrade from 4.8 to this version.
Looking forward to reading how it goes for you, and anyone else who goes from 4.8 to 5.0 over the top without uninstalling 4.8.  ;)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cyberqtf on February 10, 2010, 05:20:36 AM
I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
I'm puzzled by this statement, since MBAM worked very well with Avast 4.8.  It also works well with McAfee Enterprise 8.7, once you put a few simple exclusions into McAfee.  It also works well with Microsoft Security Essentials.  I know because I have MBAM with real-time protection on my WinXP Pro desktop that uses McAfee, and my Win 7 netbook that used to run Avast but which now runs MSE because I had serious problems when I moved to Avast 5.

Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Snagglegrain on February 10, 2010, 05:33:24 AM
I'm not too sure about it. It's a typical "two AV's running at the same time" type of conflict. Windows was simply not designed to handle that.
I'm puzzled by this statement, since MBAM worked very well with Avast 4.8.  It also works well with McAfee Enterprise 8.7, once you put a few simple exclusions into McAfee.  It also works well with Microsoft Security Essentials.  I know because I have MBAM with real-time protection on my WinXP Pro desktop that uses McAfee, and my Win 7 netbook that used to run Avast but which now runs MSE because I had serious problems when I moved to Avast 5.
Not necessarily.  It is my understanding that XP has its share of trouble handling MBAM Pro and avast 4.8.  I have extreme slow boot issues with one computer running that combo, and had to not start MBAM Pro with Windows in order to keep it all booting smoothly.  But I would say that you are correct in that the issues with avast 5.0 seem to be more widespread.  But they do exist with 4.8.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: mkis on February 10, 2010, 05:35:58 AM
Loaded one computer pre-release build direct over the top of .396 and another computer after first uninstalling .396.

Both successfull installs. So far no problems at all.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 10, 2010, 05:47:12 AM
I had one Welcome Screen hang after installing MS Office Student/Teacher Edition 2003 yesterday, but other than that, nothing.  Still running the General Release 5.0.396 version on Windows XP (SP-3)  Dell Series-3000 Desktop PC.

Jack
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cyberqtf on February 10, 2010, 05:52:10 AM
 It is my understanding that XP has its share of trouble handling MBAM Pro and avast 4.8.  I have extreme slow boot issues with one computer running that combo, and had to not start MBAM Pro with Windows in order to keep it all booting smoothly.  But I would say that you are correct in that the issues with avast 5.0 seem to be more widespread.  But they do exist with 4.8.
Yes, on my old laptop running WinXP Pro and Avast 4.8, I had to delay MBAM's startup by about a minute to be sure it didn't conflict.  I think I read that with Win 7, a startup delay is built into MBAM.  But with the startup delay, I had no problems using Avast 4.8 and MBAM in real time on my Win XP laptop (which I no longer use, having replaced it with a much lighter Win 7 netbook). 
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cazoza on February 10, 2010, 06:15:55 AM
Well this setup doesnt upgrade 4.8 to 5 in my pc. I dont know why, it has been the same since v5 came out. As far as there's no other setup, it doesn't work for me. Take care, i will keep 4.8 until it upgrades itself. Or when the other setup come out, i will test it, but with v5.0.396 i can install avast 5 pro as clean install, and not upgrade 4.8. And my trial of 5 pro expired, so i downgrade to my 4.8 pro. I will wait until official release for next build.

I will attach the setup debug log.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 10, 2010, 06:42:22 AM
The problem with IE freezing while reading a PDF still exists in 415.

As reported in this thread:  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54703.0
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 10, 2010, 07:28:44 AM
The problem with IE freezing while reading a PDF still exists in 415.

As reported in this thread:  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54703.0

Yes, that's true.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: olddog on February 10, 2010, 07:36:33 AM
The problem with IE freezing while reading a PDF still exists in 415.

As reported in this thread:  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54703.0

Yes, that's true.

Vlk, is this problem only with Adobe Reader? I have not had any problems reading PDF files in either IE7 or Firefox 3.5.7, with either 396 or 415, but I'm using PDF Xchange Viewer, not Adobe.

Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 10, 2010, 07:38:50 AM
The problem with IE freezing while reading a PDF still exists in 415.

As reported in this thread:  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54703.0

Yes, that's true.

Vlk, is this problem only with Adobe Reader? I have not had any problems reading PDF files in either IE7 or Firefox 3.5.7, with either 396 or 415, but I'm using PDF Xchange Viewer, not Adobe.


I don't know, really. We have the problem simulated here on one of our test machines. It will be fixed, but we just haven't had a chance to look into it.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 10, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
vlk is the lic issue i mentioned due to this being a pre release?

i use foxit pdf reader and it works fine for me in ie8
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 10, 2010, 07:58:25 AM
AV Pro 5.0.415

Running IE 6 virtualized under XP SP3 is hopeless.

If I click on a recent URL from the dropdown box, it goes to that site.
If I try another, nothing happens. If I open my Favorites and click on
any link, nothing happens except perhaps the first time.

If I manage to get a site open, IE soon bogs down or aborts. See images.
I'm pretty sure it was working better than this under 396.

No apparent problems running Firefox 3.0.17 virtualized.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 10, 2010, 07:59:45 AM
The problem with IE freezing while reading a PDF still exists in 415.

As reported in this thread:  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=54703.0

Yes, that's true.

Vlk, is this problem only with Adobe Reader? I have not had any problems reading PDF files in either IE7 or Firefox 3.5.7, with either 396 or 415, but I'm using PDF Xchange Viewer, not Adobe.


I don't know, really. We have the problem simulated here on one of our test machines. It will be fixed, but we just haven't had a chance to look into it.

I had a similar issue with IE 7 and 8 but not related to Avast.  I had imported some old favorites that were a part of my original Dell system from 10 years ago!  And whenever I would open up a PDF file within IE, often times when I would go to try to open up one of the Imported Favorites, the folder would not show the favorites from within the Menu bar.  There were several workarounds:

1.) The issue only happened after a PDF file was opened from the IE browser from the Menu Bar.  Requiring to close IE and than reopen it to get to that old Imported Favorites Folder.

2.) Opening the folder from IE's Favorite Center showed no problems.

ALSO

3.) Changing Adobe Reader to NOT display PDF files in the browsers completely solved the problem.

The other thing about that folder:

Since they were Imported Read-Only files, sometimes when right-clicking after sending them to the Recycle Bin, while the Files themselves would delete, the bin would still show the icon as having something in it.  If you would try to delete a second time it would say something like "Cannot Delete Windows."  This is a very common bug that can happen from Windows 98 to XP.

Anyway, there are two options for workarounds:

1.) Unchecking "Read PDF files in browser" or

2.) Install Firefox or some other competing browser, which shows none of these issues.

So is this an Avast issue, or something related to IE and Windows that MS never got around to fixing?  Or is it an Adobe Reader issue?

Jack
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: MRDIN on February 10, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
I JUST REGISTER AVAST, I CANT OPEN THE REGISTRATION KEY. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO I CAN CONTACT WITH THIS COMPANY?  THANKS
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 10, 2010, 08:08:43 AM
AV Pro 5.0.415

Running IE 6 virtualized under XP SP3 is hopeless.

If I click on a recent URL from the dropdown box, it goes to that site.
If I try another, nothing happens. If I open my Favorites and click on
any link, nothing happens except perhaps the first time.

If I manage to get a site open, IE soon bogs down or aborts. See images.
I'm pretty sure it was working better than this under 396.

No apparent problems running Firefox 3.0.17 virtualized.


Running IE 6 may not only be hopeless, but it is much too dangerous security-wise because of it's age.

If you must use IE, upgrade to version 8.

If you can, I would really recommend an alternative browser such as Firefox or Google Chrome.  They are safer, faster, and more secure than IE.

Users still running Windows 98 can still run Firefox 2.5.  But because of the severe age of this OS, users under this Windows 98 scenario really should think about getting a new computer.  There's no Anti-Virus or any type of protection for an OS that old.  IE 6 really should have been discontinued several years ago.

Jack
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 10, 2010, 08:34:41 AM
>Running IE 6 may not only be hopeless ...

Running IE 6 is not hopeless. Running it virtualized is.

>If you must use IE ...

All of which may be true, but is not relevant to the issue:
IE 6 works just fine for most sites, but can't really be said to
work *at all* when run virtualized under 415. If avast! wants
to put it on an "unsupported" list, fine. But until it is on such a
list, expecting it to function virtualized is not unreasonable.

A sandbox should be able to run virtually (no pun intended) *any*
program. Otherwise, its usefulness is questionable. Are you going to
tell malware authors that they *must* write their programs according
to Alwil's specs so their creations can be sandboxed in avast?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 10, 2010, 08:57:28 AM
IE 6 works just fine for most sites, but can't really be said to
work *at all* when run virtualized under 415. If avast! wants
to put it on an "unsupported" list, fine. But until it is on such a
list, expecting it to function virtualized is not unreasonable.

A sandbox should be able to run virtually (no pun intended) *any*
program. Otherwise, its usefulness is questionable. Are you going to
tell malware authors that they *must* write their programs according
to Alwil's specs so their creations can be sandboxed in avast?

Is this problem new to build 415?

If it is, we will need to address it asap.
If it's not, we'll also address it but it's not a show-stopper for now.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 10, 2010, 09:03:33 AM
i bought three 3 pc lic keys for 2 years each i applied this update to one of my systems and it says invalid product key now. is this due to it being a pre release or is there something really wrong with my key. i have not updated the rest of them and they say they are fine still. thanks

zfactor, so you had a valid license file entered into the program, and it stopped working now?
Did you try to re-enter it into the program?

Alternatively, can you send the license file to my email address to simulate the problem in our lab? (click the envelope icon below my picture to do so).

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 10, 2010, 09:14:44 AM
correct. it is a 2 year internet security 3pc key and after this update it says its not valid for this product. im not at that system now but i can send it tomm to you. i use that one in my office. when i get in tomm i can send it to you. yes i did try to re enter it with the same results.

so no one else has this issue. and should this build still be okay with a purchased key even though its beta?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: igor on February 10, 2010, 09:26:54 AM
Sure, beta or not, the key should be validated in the same way...
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 10, 2010, 09:28:55 AM
Is this problem new to build 415?

I'm fairly certain it is. I'm sure I used IE 6 sandboxed quite a
few times under 396 and don't recall ever seeing this problem.
But it is there from the outset with 415.

Unfortunately, I can't say definitively that all tests were run
under *exactly* the same environment as I have recently
applied several MS patches to XP (and IE).
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 10, 2010, 09:55:47 AM
correct. it is a 2 year internet security 3pc key and after this update it says its not valid for this product. im not at that system now but i can send it tomm to you. i use that one in my office. when i get in tomm i can send it to you. yes i did try to re enter it with the same results.

so no one else has this issue. and should this build still be okay with a purchased key even though its beta?

When sending the license file to me, please also attach the avast\setup\setup.log file.

BTW the only change in the licensing component is that in now checks for pirated licenses more thoroughly. But that shouldn't be your case, right...? You bought the license via our official online store, correct?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: rnuis on February 10, 2010, 10:02:35 AM
How do you get a Beta testing Licnese ????Because i want too test this version and hope its better then the 396 version.

Greats,

rnuis

correct. it is a 2 year internet security 3pc key and after this update it says its not valid for this product. im not at that system now but i can send it tomm to you. i use that one in my office. when i get in tomm i can send it to you. yes i did try to re enter it with the same results.

so no one else has this issue. and should this build still be okay with a purchased key even though its beta?

When sending the license file to me, please also attach the avast\setup\setup.log file.

BTW the only change in the licensing component is that in now checks for pirated licenses more thoroughly. But that shouldn't be your case, right...? You bought the license via our official online store, correct?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 10, 2010, 10:18:39 AM
correct. it is a 2 year internet security 3pc key and after this update it says its not valid for this product. im not at that system now but i can send it tomm to you. i use that one in my office. when i get in tomm i can send it to you. yes i did try to re enter it with the same results.

so no one else has this issue. and should this build still be okay with a purchased key even though its beta?

When sending the license file to me, please also attach the avast\setup\setup.log file.

BTW the only change in the licensing component is that in now checks for pirated licenses more thoroughly. But that shouldn't be your case, right...? You bought the license via our official online store, correct?

Thanks
Vlk

correct i bought them from the avast site. i just updated one of the home systems and everything is fine with that one? should i try a fresh install on the one giving me issues? could it be something from the update of the files maybe? i guess it could be worth a shot ill do that in the morning and see if that works first. i know the first time i installed it on that system i could not get the web shield and firewall to start for anything so i reinstalled it and then they worked so maybe something messed up there.

i will let you know as soon as i try that, if not i hope its not the key itself.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: pk on February 10, 2010, 10:55:18 AM
Running IE 6 virtualized under XP SP3 is hopeless.
No problem here on an XP SP3 machine that is running IE 6.0.2900.5512 virtualized.

However, could you please download http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/snxConfig.exe, disable Process/Thread hooking and try it again?
What other addons do you have installed in IE6? [see Tools/Manage-Addons...]
Thanks.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: RejZoR on February 10, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
Why is avast! constantly poping up zones popup on every system start? It's so annoying and i hope it'll be fixed soon.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 10, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
 It is my understanding that XP has its share of trouble handling MBAM Pro and avast 4.8.  I have extreme slow boot issues with one computer running that combo, and had to not start MBAM Pro with Windows in order to keep it all booting smoothly.  But I would say that you are correct in that the issues with avast 5.0 seem to be more widespread.  But they do exist with 4.8.
Yes, on my old laptop running WinXP Pro and Avast 4.8, I had to delay MBAM's startup by about a minute to be sure it didn't conflict.  I think I read that with Win 7, a startup delay is built into MBAM.  But with the startup delay, I had no problems using Avast 4.8 and MBAM in real time on my Win XP laptop (which I no longer use, having replaced it with a much lighter Win 7 netbook). 
I delayed MBAM 55 seconds which pretty much solved the problem except for a few scattered hangs. The only problem doing that is when MBAM updates to a new version you have to set it up again.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: SecurityAdvisor on February 10, 2010, 01:23:21 PM
Why is avast! constantly poping up zones popup on every system start? It's so annoying and i hope it'll be fixed soon.
I agree this is really annoying.
Hope it can be set off
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: SecurityAdvisor on February 10, 2010, 01:24:19 PM
Downloading the file now. Will install it later today
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: disPlay on February 10, 2010, 01:41:58 PM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: logos on February 10, 2010, 01:59:40 PM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?

it's not a matter of program version, but a matter of rule sets that don't currently exist for the BS in 64 bit OS.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cyberqtf on February 10, 2010, 03:34:39 PM
I delayed MBAM 55 seconds which pretty much solved the problem except for a few scattered hangs. The only problem doing that is when MBAM updates to a new version you have to set it up again.
Are you talking about updates from, say, version 1.43 to 1.44?  I'm not sure I had to set things up again, nor would I think I'd have had to, since the file names (e.g., mbamservice.exe, mbamgui.exe) didn't change.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Avastfan1 on February 10, 2010, 03:44:45 PM
Update:

Today Avast updated automatically after a cold boot and I received the notification.

Additionally, I have not experienced any random freezes yet!

This bodes very well indeed for Avast!

I will update you if any further random freezes occur.

I am running the MBAM resident protection module and have not added MBAM or Avast to the exclusion list of each respective programme.

Carry on with the splendid work lads!

Avastfan1
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: blacklac on February 10, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
 It is my understanding that XP has its share of trouble handling MBAM Pro and avast 4.8.  I have extreme slow boot issues with one computer running that combo, and had to not start MBAM Pro with Windows in order to keep it all booting smoothly.  But I would say that you are correct in that the issues with avast 5.0 seem to be more widespread.  But they do exist with 4.8.
Yes, on my old laptop running WinXP Pro and Avast 4.8, I had to delay MBAM's startup by about a minute to be sure it didn't conflict.  I think I read that with Win 7, a startup delay is built into MBAM.  But with the startup delay, I had no problems using Avast 4.8 and MBAM in real time on my Win XP laptop (which I no longer use, having replaced it with a much lighter Win 7 netbook). 
I delayed MBAM 55 seconds which pretty much solved the problem except for a few scattered hangs. The only problem doing that is when MBAM updates to a new version you have to set it up again.

How do you setup MBAM to delay start?  Forgive me if it is in MBAM option menu, I am not at a PC right now.  (Blackberry)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 10, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
I delayed MBAM 55 seconds which pretty much solved the problem except for a few scattered hangs. The only problem doing that is when MBAM updates to a new version you have to set it up again.
Are you talking about updates from, say, version 1.43 to 1.44?  I'm not sure I had to set things up again, nor would I think I'd have had to, since the file names (e.g., mbamservice.exe, mbamgui.exe) didn't change.
Yes. Actually I was using a utility called Startup Delayer, and it was the app that I had to re-set up. Sorry I didn't make my self clear.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Francois Blais on February 10, 2010, 04:07:20 PM
If you use WinPatrol, you can set it to delay some programs at startup.
Since it uses the program path/filenames, updates won't change anything.
It may be a registered feature though.
But it's quite inexpensive and well worth the expense, IMHO.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: disPlay on February 10, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?

it's not a matter of program version, but a matter of rule sets that don't currently exist for the BS in 64 bit OS.

And when will the 64 bit OS users will get that rules?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: logos on February 10, 2010, 04:55:55 PM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?

it's not a matter of program version, but a matter of rule sets that don't currently exist for the BS in 64 bit OS.

And when will the 64 bit OS users will get that rules?

this is something that I'd love to know too tbh  ;D ...keeping in mind that 64 bit OS are by nature more protected then others against rootkits (there's been an MS statement recently) and such rules might be completely unneeded there, not to mention that patchguard is also an obstacle it seems...but OK it's not just about rootkits and other types of rules might be added in the future, only the devs here can tell...
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: disPlay on February 10, 2010, 05:25:28 PM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?

it's not a matter of program version, but a matter of rule sets that don't currently exist for the BS in 64 bit OS.

And when will the 64 bit OS users will get that rules?

this is something that I'd love to know too tbh  ;D ...keeping in mind that 64 bit OS are by nature more protected then others against rootkits (there's been an MS statement recently) and such rules might be completely unneeded there, not to mention that patchguard is also an obstacle it seems...but OK it's not just about rootkits and other types of rules might be added in the future, only the devs here can tell...

hmm ok. So we just have to wait :)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 10, 2010, 06:45:29 PM
vlk today i checked and it is working fine now? why would this happen? it says everything is okay now and has the correct exp date as well.  i did not have to do anything.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: igor on February 10, 2010, 08:02:09 PM
If you didn't do so previously, please send the file avast\setup\setup.log to Vlk (or maybe even better - upload it to
Code: [Select]
ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming... maybe there will be some more info inside.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: MrNajem on February 10, 2010, 08:56:47 PM
Hi

I download it and installed over version 396 , everything worked very well , no problems at all , Thanks to God Almighty  ;D
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 10, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Still running Avast 5.0.396,

When I came back to the computer the Avast Window was minimized, but could not be closed.  I had to reboot.  Don't know if there was an update problem, or if another user might have been in the middle of an application when it froze.

Jack
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Sgt.Schumann on February 10, 2010, 10:02:26 PM
Updated from 5.0.396 very smooth and fast. This new build runs without any problems. Thanks for the great work.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Mr.Agent on February 10, 2010, 10:23:37 PM
Still running Avast 5.0.396,

When I came back to the computer the Avast Window was minimized, but could not be closed.  I had to reboot.  Don't know if there was an update problem, or if another user might have been in the middle of an application when it froze.

Jack

Try 415 then. So we can see if its solved your problem.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 10, 2010, 10:30:30 PM
No problem here on an XP SP3 machine that is running IE 6.0.2900.5512 virtualized.
However, could you please download http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/snxConfig.exe, disable Process/Thread hooking and try it again?
What other addons do you have installed in IE6? [see Tools/Manage-Addons...]

When I run snxConfig (with or without any virtualized processes active)
I get an error: See image 1.

Also attached are snapshots of the IE6 add-ons I've been using.

Some typical results using IE6 *in* 415 sandbox:

Attempts to load http://www.tcm.com pages, especially "Schedule"
and then "Canadian Schedule", give "Out of memory" errors around
2nd or 3rd page loaded. (All add-ons enabled.)

Prior tests of 396 may have been done without WOT add-on.
So disabled WOT and tried 415 tests of IE6 again:

Disabled WOT (both add-ons) from IE6 running *out* of sandbox.
Closed IE6.

(Have not seen "Out of memory" errors from sandboxed IE6
when running with WOT disabled.)

Test 1:

Opened IE6 virtualized.

Clicked on URLs dropdown and selected http://www.tcm.com
Page seemed to load OK - no errors - some images may not
have been downloaded.

Clicked on "Schedule" link at left.
Schedule page (US) appeared to load OK - but some images may
not have been downloaded.

Clicked on "Canadian Schedule" at top right.
"BOOM!" Got Application Error, attempt to reference memory at 0x00000000.


Test 2:

Opened IE6 virtualized (no WOT).

Opened "Favorites".

Clicked on link (http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html).
Page loaded OK.
Closed "Favorites" frame.

Clicked on "Home" button. Home (blank) page loaded.

Opened "Favorites".

Clicked on link for BBC Canada Shop:
http://www.bbccanadashop.com/products-a.html

Nothing happens.
No "click" sound when any link is clicked on.

Closed "Favorites" frame.

Opened recent URLs dropdown. Clicked on Google link:
nothing happens, no "click" sound, no page loading, nada.
Frames and dropdown etc. work but link selections don't.
Have to close and restart.

Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: twl845 on February 11, 2010, 01:24:43 AM
Thank you for making the pre-release v5.0.415 available. According to the posts no one seems to be having problems with it. I would like to wait until it is released before I upgrade to it, so can anyone predict how much longer that will be?  :)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: cyberqtf on February 11, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
If you use WinPatrol, you can set it to delay some programs at startup.
Since it uses the program path/filenames, updates won't change anything.
It may be a registered feature though.
But it's quite inexpensive and well worth the expense, IMHO.
Yes, I used WinPatrol, and I didn't have to change anything when there were updates.  And I second your recommendation.  WinPatrol is an immensely useful little program.  It's available in a freeware version that I think includes the delayed startup feature, but I use the modestly-priced PLUS version and, like you, I find it well worth the money.  Two nice things: you can use it on all your computers, and once you've bought it, your license is a lifetime license.  You never have to pay for updates.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: zfactor on February 11, 2010, 04:15:56 AM
seem to be having a issue with the firewall now. with my hp wireless printer. for some reason with .415 the firewall goes nuts spiking all over the place. i reinstalled the previous version and i do not see this action. now im not sure if the previous version was incorrect in its reporting or not or if this one is though.. if i remove the network drive (it sees the printer as a network drive location) the firewall flattens out again and the multiple snmp's showing up stop with .415 this as i said does not happen with 396 and i dont have to disconnect the network drive because it does not react like this. what could be the cause. i am seeing the same results on 2 different systems with this printer and avast
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Uncle Bud on February 11, 2010, 04:20:02 AM
VLK in this version the behavior shield works in 64 bit OS?

it's not a matter of program version, but a matter of rule sets that don't currently exist for the BS in 64 bit OS.
What else isnt goning to function on the x64 bit and will it still try, or just not install/initiate?

I think alot of vendors are having conflict issues they may not be aware of yet...but I haven't had problems yet.  I will try this one but want to install without 'script' or 'behav' chelid....or any other peice that will/might be useless on 64 bit.

BTW...script shield doesnt seem to give issues, just to much blockage...wish it had some more control to it.  If I just turn it off then my 'tray icon' has an "!" ??? on it.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: waking on February 11, 2010, 04:33:31 AM
If I just turn it off then my 'tray icon' has an "!" ??? on it.

Go to the main Settings menus, and under "Status Bar" UNcheck "Script shield".
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Shiw Liang on February 11, 2010, 05:16:23 AM
Nice we are sure looking forward in the testing :)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Uncle Bud on February 11, 2010, 05:41:25 AM
If I just turn it off then my 'tray icon' has an "!" ??? on it.

Go to the main Settings menus, and under "Status Bar" UNcheck "Script shield".

Actually, installing with custom option and deseleting the script shield seems to have worked, however, upon install restart icon had "!" but not for scrip[t shield...then windows popup 'Avast stopped working'...I manually turned off my network connections and everything is fine again.  I think this all has to do with activation/demo key somehow.  BTW, this was with open connection during installation.  Only thing out of ordianry was install without scirpt shield.

I copied the windows error report to a notepad, should I upload it or other log files to make sure that its all about the activation/demo key refresh?  Heres the win report:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   BEX
  Application Name:   afwServ.exe
  Application Version:   5.0.417.0
  Application Timestamp:   4b715170
  Fault Module Name:   aswCmnBS.dll_unloaded
  Fault Module Version:   0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:   4b68a01b
  Exception Offset:   744a20a5
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Data:   00000008
  OS Version:   6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.1
  Locale ID:   1033

EDIT:  I had to manually restart the firewall though, even though the summary screen said it was running but on its own screen it showed not active???
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: coolsilver on February 11, 2010, 07:48:25 AM
By the faulting module name looks like your Behavior Shield is throwing issues.

Did you install that shield as well? I know previously others had the errors when the Behavior Shield was not installed but Avast seemed to be working properly other than notifications not working right.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Timo Schmidt on February 11, 2010, 11:16:20 AM
Firewall has still huge problems to assign groups in Application Control when the Group "Other" exists.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: ltelmo on February 11, 2010, 11:33:25 AM
Howdy,
Been using the 396 version but uninstalled do to some issues saw the 415 up installed it clean , not over the top and It will not register. All boxes fill in normal but when clicking submit nothing happens. Just wanted to pass that on if anyone else seen it. Other than that Love the new logo and colors and love the fast responses and a friendly support forum.
Thanks!
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Vlk on February 11, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
Been using the 396 version but uninstalled do to some issues saw the 415 up installed it clean , not over the top and It will not register. All boxes fill in normal but when clicking submit nothing happens. Just wanted to pass that on if anyone else seen it. Other than that Love the new logo and colors and love the fast responses and a friendly support forum.

This is a known problem, will be fixed soon.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: gordon451 on February 11, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
OK...  Does .415 include the MSV*90.dll pack yet?  For those of us that have not got, or had, Visual Studio 2008 -- and don't ever want to have it -- Alwil should put the redistributable components Avast! needs into the download, or point us to them on the Avast! website.  We should not have to find them in this forum if Avast! requires them for any of its functionality.  >:(

Gordon.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: coper on February 11, 2010, 02:19:16 PM
when will be final of 5.0.415? will be this week?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: sebailey on February 11, 2010, 04:57:02 PM
Installed .415 fine over .396 Pro. No reported issues BUT still very slow boot up on XP. BTW I am not using MBAM other than the free on demand version so not sure that is the complete cause of the slow boot process. Its actually as soon as the desktop appears (partially) everything just stops, No hard drive activity, the rest of the desktop icons do not appear. Then several minutes later it continues its boot-up process and loads the rest of the icons and other applications. I am hearing that is just the Pro version doing that. Can someone confirm this? Maybe I will install free and see if it stops.


[EDIT]  Ok uninstalled Pro and installed Free version. The boot delay did not happen. All icons appeared almost instantly and other apps started loading up in taskbar.  On the free ver I left the "load avast after other services" unchecked and was still way faster than Pro. Pro I had that checked to see if it would help and it did not.  So apparently there is an issue with Pro that is causing this delay and it still exists in .415
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Uncle Bud on February 11, 2010, 05:29:42 PM
By the faulting module name looks like your Behavior Shield is throwing issues.

Did you install that shield as well? I know previously others had the errors when the Behavior Shield was not installed but Avast seemed to be working properly other than notifications not working right.
I did not change anything except install without 'Script sheild'.  Everything else remianed checked.  I noticed that it was the BeHav unit as well.

Vlk,

Can I send you any logs before they delete themselves(if setting is for 1 day default)?  Or have you been able to duplicate this event?

Also, I had uninstalled Avast 5 free, booted to safe mode, used 'Avast Remover' from download in sticky, then cleaned my registry since I had not done that after reinstalling back to Vista (treid Win7 VGA card wont do the wddm :o ) and updating SP1&2. Then installed with all recomended settings minus 'Script shield'.

This info may have had something to do with all that ??? ...Vista Manager for system maintenance.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: news on February 11, 2010, 06:38:50 PM
Running the new build on 6 pc's. So far...all are running quite smoothly. For me, it's good going alwil team.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: Fionavar on February 11, 2010, 06:57:09 PM
I know that others are having this problem. Will this version address the broken HTML code when choosing to Insert Note in a Message using Outlook (2007)?
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: RedFan on February 11, 2010, 07:17:24 PM
Installed  5.0.415 on top over .396 yesterday, so far working flawlessly as in previous build:)
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: jack_90125 on February 11, 2010, 08:29:41 PM
did a clean instll of .415 rebooted and no avast.clikced icon and it came up.shutdown and rebooted no avast.
uninstalled
win 7 x64 and nothing else.
Title: Re: INTRODUCING: New pre-release build of avast [5.0.415]
Post by: coper on February 11, 2010, 10:37:17 PM
new avast release NOW. 5.0.418 via automatic update.