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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Stran05 on March 30, 2010, 02:42:25 PM
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Avira performed the most dirtiest and lowest trick of all time. They redirected the domain of avast.eu to their own website only to pick up the sales of their faulty product Avira Antivir 10 which is slow and buggy. I am a Community Member at the Avira Support Member and I am very embarassed at the situation Avira has got inself into. I am ashamed of ever bieng ssociated with Avira. They have ignored calls and emails from the Avast CEO to rectify this mistake. To see the dirtiest AV trick, just goto http://www.avast.eu and you will be redicted to the Avira website. This lures many users looking for Avast to the dirty web lured by Avira. What rubbish! Avira must have a valid explanation for this and must make a public apology to Avast! or this will get dirtier. Avira has completely broken my trust.
Reference:
http://www.sevenforums.com/news/74722-why-does-www-avast-eu-take-me-avira-website.html
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wow
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http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631 (http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631) [Link not accessible for everyone]
You left out the important part. According to Vince Steckler, Avast CEO, Avira is doing this DELIBERATELY possibly to beef up its sales. Steckler states in his Avast Blog today that Avast has contacted Avira REPEATEDLY about this and Avira has refused to do anything.
Did he also said that Alwil is holding antivir.cz since years
If they wanna have avast.eu, maybe they are interested in an exchange of both domains. Okay, I can't speak for Avira on this topic but I really can imagine that Tjark Auerbach would agree to this deal.
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i don't understand, if they are really sure about their product they must gain the trust in professional way, not like this.
just like stealing candy in the kid.
i wonder some of my friend told me that avira and avast is one :o >:(
now i see what they say. i hope this will be fix because i told my friend you must re install your browser maybe it is a bug. ;D
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http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631 (http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631)
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I guess they don't like guests on their forum either to see what is going on, see image.
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http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631 (http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=109631)
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I guess they don't like guests on their forum either to see what is going on, see image.
You can't enter that area because that is a restricted area for Community Members only. I can view the thread as I am logged in as Community Membr in the Avira Support forum. But I can post the entire post if you like in this forum!
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I am logged in as Community Membr in the Avira Support forum. But I can post the entire post if you like in this forum!
::) you are spy if you do that ;D
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I don't really need to have a look, if they feel so insecure as to block access to their support forum why should I care.
But it does speak volumes in relation to their use of avast.eu for what would be considered underhand/desperate measures, what do they have to hide on their forums ;D
You only have to look at the number of guests browsing the forums, no restrictions to people seeking information without having to register, jump through hoops, see image.
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I totally support Avira in this regard
Because Avast also does this trick with http://www.antivir.cz
So,
Let us first make our hands clean before blaming others
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I don't really need to have a look, if they feel so insecure as to block access to their support forum why should I care.
But it does speak volumes in relation to their use of avast.eu for what would be considered underhand/desperate measures, what do they have to hide on their forums ;D
You only have to look at the number of guests browsing the forums, no restrictions to people seeking information without having to register, jump through hoops, see image.
Don't we have some similar area here...? ;)
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I totally support Avira in this regard
Because Avast also does this trick with http://www.antivir.cz
So,
Let us first make our hands clean before blaming others
@Chris maybe you need to read this.
http://blog.avast.com/2010/03/29/why-does-www-avast-eu-take-me-to-the-avira-website%E2%80%A6-or-isn%E2%80%99t-security-built-on-trust/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=blog
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chris you mean they are using each other? ::) :o
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@ bong
Yes >:(
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That http://www.antivir.cz was owned by avast.
Read here.
http://blog.avast.com/2010/03/29/why-does-www-avast-eu-take-me-to-the-avira-website%E2%80%A6-or-isn%E2%80%99t-security-built-on-trust/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=blog
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Isn't Avast.eu owned by Avira?
I am a devout Avast fan but I will always stand with the truth
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ok thanks chubalz!
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ok thanks chubalz!
Welcome bro.
We have same place. ;D
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Isn't Avast.eu owned by Avira?
I am a devout Avast fan but I will always stand with the truth
Thanks :-* :-*
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Don't we have some similar area here...? ;)
Yes we do but it isn't called a Community which I would have expected to include everyone and it wasn't mentioned in your original post (you have now edited) that it wasn't open to all :P
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:D ilike this line ;)
History notes. Some may notice that we do use the domain www.antivir.cz here in the Czech Republic when Antivir is also the name of one of Avira’s products. “Antivir” is simply the Czech equivalent of “antivirus”. Similarly, www.antivirus.com is owned by Trend Micro. We registered the names www.antivir.com and www.antivir.cz in 1997 and for many years used these domain names. A couple of years ago Avira wanted the name www.antivir.com and we struck an agreement to transfer that name to them. However, we kept the www.antivir.cz as it is merely the Czech equivalent of www.antivirus.cz.
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Isn't Avast.eu owned by Avira?
I am a devout Avast fan but I will always stand with the truth
Thanks :-* :-*
Thanks AnjanDavid
;) :D
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I don't think .eu is a famous domain.
Most people are likely to type Avast.com instead of Avast.eu ;D
Seems more like a silly dispute between the owners of Avast and Avira.
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I totally support Avira in this regard
Because Avast also does this trick with http://www.antivir.cz
So,
Let us first make our hands clean before blaming others
Antivir is just the equivalent of antivirus in czech as indicated in the blog. So we are not tricking anyone.
nmb
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Apple is a fruit that everyone eats and so is Orange
Does this mean that companies like Apple and Orange should change their trademarks?
And it is easy to register a domain and resell it at a high price
So, if I register for example Apple .eu
I am entitled to it not Apple and Steve Jobs
If they wanted it then they should have registered it before I did
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And also
Avast is a 'word' which means Cease; stop; or stay.
It is a universal word
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But showing apple and giving orange is not acceptable i guess, huh?!
nmb
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Apple is a fruit that everyone eats and so is Orange
Does this mean that companies like Apple and Orange should change their trademarks?
And it is easy to register a domain and resell it at a high price
So, if I register for example Apple .eu
I am entitled to it not Apple and Steve Jobs
If they wanted it then they should have registered it before I did
Again thanks :-*
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Seems like both Avira and Avast are pulling equally "dirty" tricks here.
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This is ridiculous... Made a better program instead of doing such a trick. Shame.
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;D logically let see what is it ::)
if antivir=fruit
and if avast = orange
and if avira = apple
if i request apple*printf("avira")
if i request orange*printf("avast")
if i request fruit*printf("avast or avira")
so meaning if i request antivir it can be avast or avira
and if i request avast it mean i need exactly avast!!!
correct me if i'm wrong
Best regards!!!
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Seems like both Avira and Avast are pulling equally "dirty" tricks here.
Your wrong dude.
Not Avast but Avira is doing dirty tricks. You could read the 1st page.
I have link for Avast blog. It has most details you need to understand.
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There you go bong2x.
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If they hurry, I think comodo.de is still available. ;)
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If they hurry, I think comodo.de is still available. ;)
:D
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Seems like both Avira and Avast are pulling equally "dirty" tricks here.
Your wrong dude.
Not Avast but Avira is doing dirty tricks. You could read the 1st page.
I have link for Avast blog. It has most details you need to understand.
I've read it all, only difference is Avira isn't giving some useless excuse for why it's doing it, giving useless excuses just insults the readers intelligence adding insult to injury. They are both doing the same thing in the end, both being "dirty", whatever their excuses.
edit, with the exception that I only see Avast complaining about it while they're also doing it so you can add hypocrite to one site, no prizes for guessing which.
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Browser, did you see the dates the domains were registered?
Do you think TrendMicro is doing the same thing with www.antivirus.com ?
You're just making Avira defense for an non-excusable behavior...
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The thing is, ALWIL granted the request for AVIRA to buy www.antivir.com address. They kept the www.antivir.cz as this is a very local thing anyway (unlike .com which is global). Plus "antivir" can be "antivirus" in short. avast on the other hand only means avast and AVIRA holding on to it is nothing else than a dirty trick to "steal" avast! users. I know lots of similar addresses are on the internet, held by various users just to make profit out of it, but this one is really obvious. And one thing is for a local kid to have it or a professional company... that's where it makes the difference.
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The word Antivirus is an English word not a trademark
So TrendMicro can use it without any problem
The word Avast is also an english word which means 'stop'
I don't think that Avast.eu is an infringement of trademark because after all Avast is an English word in the English dictionary.
Is apple.org an infringement of Apple trademark?
No
If you type Apple.org, it lead to a Genetically modified Food and Organism website not Apple Mac website
I don't think neither Avast or Avira is wrong.
Finally Avast.eu is registered by Avira in its own name. So Avira has a right to do anything with the domain including redirection...
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The word "stop" has nothing to do with Avira.
You're comparing apples with oranges.
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The word stop has a lot to do with Avira as it stops malware
Do you think that the people in Avira are fools to register Avast.eu without consulting themselves with the rules regarding website domain registration and trademark infringement?
They are not kids and they are a highly rated company. They are not idiots to register this domain if they are going to face backlash i.e legal problems.... 8)
They might have made this decision after a very hard study
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The word stop has a lot to do with Avira as it stops malware
C'mon, a lot of words will be in this list: security, protection, start, stop, clean, good, bad...
Non sense imho.
Do you think that the people in Avira are fools to register Avast.eu without consulting themselves with the rules regarding website domain registration and trademark infringement?
Not fool or idiot.
Just non honest.
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No doubt avira cheats. They use the name of avast, because avast is same name of one of the most popular anti-virus today. And guess what kind of product of avast they are selling. It is an anti-virus also, same kind of product they want to sell. Thus they gain big on this one. I remember long time ago I also installed Avira on my computer, but it did not took so long. Because i'm annoyed of an antivirus whose put a big banner of ads. Whats the point on still putting an ads in product that already been sold to your customer. Is not it a sign of greed. ;D
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I see everyone's point here, but the bottom line is whoever buys a domain name owns the rights to it, and can do with it what they please.
Avast should have picked up all similar domain names when they first created their website so that things like this wouldn't happen.
I doubt that many people would use that domain anyway.
But this type of debacle isn't new... try http://nissan.com/ for example. Think it's the website for nissan motor company? ;D
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I see everyone's point here, but the bottom line is whoever buys a domain name owns the rights to it, and can do with it what they please.
Avast should have picked up all similar domain names when they first created their website so that things like this wouldn't happen.
I doubt that many people would use that domain anyway.
But this type of debacle isn't new... try http://nissan.com/ for example. Think it's the website for nissan motor company? ;D
Legally, you are right but this kind of behavior makes me wonder if the company is trustworthy....especially when the chief developer of their "rival" company is like this (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=57318.msg483965#msg483965)...
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I don't know why they would choose the word 'Avast' above anything else. I mean, there are more synonyms for 'stop'. They are just indirectly challenging their rivalry against Avast! It does not sound good. Right now, I have got no official word from the forum itself. If I get any, I will let you know for sure.
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Legally, you are right but this kind of behavior makes me wonder if the company is trustworthy....especially when the chief developer of their "rival" company is like this...
it is a professional way in recognition of fellow competitors ;)
but about this topic, the point is, you can use the real name of your product to publish, why using the name of competitors?
or why using another name to hide the real name of the product?
if you sure that your product is great, then why hiding it?
they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?
Best Regards!!!
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they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?
Easy. To swindle away some unsuspecting customers away from avast.
I don't see this as a big deal. Avira knew what they were doing when they bought the name and redirected it to their page.
Yeah, it's not exactly good business, but if they can get a few more users in doing so, more power to them.
Just make sure that when you give Avast's name to others, remind them to type the real address.
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I moved to Avast because Avira 10 stinks. What s been discussed here
makes me wonder, if Avira the company, is also going down the tubes
as their antivirus application is. I think it would be better for both compa-
nies to come to an agreement as they did in the past. Avast is a better
antivirus company and does not need to fight with Avira specially now
that their AV application is turning for the worst in all aspects IMO.
Does anybody knows when Avira started using the "Avast.eu" domain?
Happy Avast user
Bo
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Just make sure that when you give Avast's name to others, remind them to type the real address.
+100
Avast is a better
antivirus company and does not need to fight with Avira
+100
Best Regards!!!
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Does anybody knows when Avira started using the "Avast.eu" domain?
Result obtained from: http://www.eurid.eu/en/content/whois-result
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Avira performed the most dirtiest and lowest trick of all time.
wow - thats extremely hard stuff! :(
is that even legal ???
asyn
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Childish Behavior ::)
Obviously brought on by Avira being totally green with envy and jealous of Avast.
they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?
Exactly! >:(
Hally
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If a link is supposed to go to Avira but actually takes you to avast!, or vice versa, why in god's name would anyone be stupid enough to buy the product simply because the link takes them there? If I want avast! and end up at a site for Avira am I going to say, oops this is Avira but I wanted avast!, I guess I'll buy Avira? ;D
If a company does actually do this intentionally you gotta wonder at their mentality.
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Here's another thread about this http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r24026074-Dangers-of-Cybersquatting (http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r24026074-Dangers-of-Cybersquatting)
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why in god's name would anyone be stupid enough to buy the product simply because the link takes them there?
Stupidity is all around us... To infinite and beyond ;D
If a company does actually do this intentionally you gotta wonder at their mentality.
I'm proud of not being an Avira user.
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Hi,
It's look like not really professional business rule for this case :
1. If avira would like to reach www.antivir.cz, why they don't fight to get let.e.g with hit the better price or got permission. But if ALWIL don't want to give this domain, why they are not to choose others domain like some evangelist mentioned in here? I think avira have hidden purpose to purchase www.antivir.cz, but it's ok...that i call business like the jungle..who is the strength one, then they will kill the weakness one.
2. I believe ALWIL Software has did the right things, even i didn't knew exactly what has been happened before this case blow up. Because according to Vince article, his already tell everything in details description.
I am don't want to judge who is the rite one, because we don't have the right to do this but let the time decide it which one is the rite one...
cheers,
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Avira AntiVir 10 is taking the beeting. Estimated over 1000 Avira users have changed their antivirus to either Avast! to AVG in the past 6 months. Go figure!
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Well the original redirect now appears to have been killed, no more is avast.eu redirecting to antivir.com, etc.
The CEO of Avira posted on the avast blog about this, saying that they have deleted the the avast.eu domain name and stated, case closed. I responded to that post saying that considering the redirect was still in place it was hardly case closed.
So it appears to be good news if this non-redirection isn't just a glitch.
Another point of note the original avast blog and all the comments has now been pulled (and a modified one posted), so perhaps this is an indication that the matter is now closed, watch this space ;D
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Where are the comments in the blog? ???
Were they deleted?
http://blog.avast.com/2010/04/01/misdirection-on-the-internet-2
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As I said the original blog and all comments have been pulled. Presumably as a result of the redirection being killed.
The new modified blog has no comments as it doesn't mention the antivir redirect deception/trick/scam of avast.eu, call it what you feel it was.
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The blog post now doesn't have any mention of Avira now...I suppose we can take this as meaning that ALWIL/Avira have come to an agreement (or are working it out between themselves) so there is now no need for that to be on the blog anymore.
IMHO, good.
1. I feel it wasn't necessary in the first place
2. I feel it distracted from the main point of the blog post itself, as did many of the comments...all it did was cause arguements...
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BTW, it is technically a different blog post...the other has been removed...
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Seems the intention was fulfilled: the removal of the redirection.
But I always get sad when things that you've written get censored or just deleted... Don't you think so?
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Yes, I don't particularly like it either...some of my post was relevant to the other content in that blog too...now I can't find it on the RSS feed either, but there are others that are still there...
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I guess any settlement would include the removal of what had to be an embarrassment to Avira.
After a lack of response from Avira through other media, telephone and emails, the avast blog and other sources started to get legs and the CEO of Avira effectively had to visit the avast blog, to attempt to justify (but never did) what they were doing only to say they deleted the avast.eu domain name, case closed.
That if anything made me mad as the redirection was still happening at the time of his post, so I pointed that out so it was hardly case closed. Not to long after that post the redirection ceased and the original blog and comments were removed.
I too feel that the original should blog and comments should have remained albeit locked as multiple other sources linked to that blog. Anyone visiting the original link would only get a custom 404 error and wonder about why it was removed, censored, etc.
All in all not a good situation.
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??? AFAIK, avast.eu is still redirected to avira.com, nothing changed at all.
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??? AFAIK, avast.eu is still redirected to avira.com, nothing changed at all.
Me too, avast.eu still redirects to www.avira.com >:(
To Firefox users: Clear cache and try again. I don't know why, but once I see the redirection, I can't see any redirection until I delete avast.eu cache.
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Now its back, I don't know why that is, but it just shows that what the Avira CEO said in the deleted avast blog "case closed, etc. etc." isn't worth the paper it wasn't written on.
So back to their underhand tactics which says very much about their companies ethics, morals and professionalism NOT.
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What is back? Some of the comments? The majority of them were ripped out ::)
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No the redirect of avast.eu to antivir.com.
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No the redirect of avast.eu to antivir.com.
I can't believe... Are these guys joking?
First it was dropped, now it's back.
First the comments disappeared from the blog, now only part of them are back...
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The comments that are 'back' in that 'new/modified' blog aren't actually back but posted after the new/modified blog was posted. So it doesn't look like any of the comments of the original blog have been reinstated.
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Edited
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tech don't be scared, be responsible :D
or i may say congrats!!!
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Hitting that link reminds me of rootkit behavior, not nice.
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totally ridiculous. i can not believe this is back again
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Just for the records, the redirection is still there ???
I just used Free Download Manager to see what was there, see the log.
00:36:08 03/04/2010 Starting download...
00:36:08 03/04/2010 GET / HTTP/1.1
Referer: -
Host: www.avast.eu
00:36:09 03/04/2010 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:36:10 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.9 (Debian)
X-UD-Host: webspace.udag.de
X-UD-Method: header
X-UD-Target: http://www.avira.com
Location: http://www.avira.com
Connection: close
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Length: 0
Content-Type: text/html
00:36:09 03/04/2010 Redirecting...
00:36:09 03/04/2010 Redirection succeeded. Opening new URL
00:36:09 03/04/2010 GET / HTTP/1.1
Referer: -
Host: www.avira.com
00:36:11 03/04/2010 HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:36:11 GMT
Server: Apache
Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=96577428a15804de1a5223535edf8938; path=/
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: AV_Lang=En; expires=Sun, 03-Apr-2011 03:36:11 GMT; path=/
location: /en/pages/index.php
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Length: 0
Keep-Alive: timeout=4, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html
00:36:11 03/04/2010 Redirecting...
00:36:11 03/04/2010 Redirection succeeded. Opening new URL
00:36:11 03/04/2010 GET /en/pages/index.php HTTP/1.1
Referer: http://www.avira.com/en/pages/
Host: www.avira.com
00:36:11 03/04/2010 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:36:12 GMT
Server: Apache
Cache-Control: max-age=1200
Expires: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 05:50:48 +0200
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Keep-Alive: timeout=4, max=99
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html
00:36:12 03/04/2010 Opening file on the disk...
00:36:12 03/04/2010 File already exists. Rename to "index(1).php"
00:36:12 03/04/2010 Succeeded
00:36:12 03/04/2010 [Section 1] - Started
00:36:12 03/04/2010 [Section 1] - Downloading
00:36:12 03/04/2010 Creating new section...
00:36:12 03/04/2010 Cancelled
00:36:13 03/04/2010 [Section 1] - Done
00:36:13 03/04/2010 Download complete
Anyway, why don't we end up with this the easy way?
ALWIL gets avast.eu, Avira GmbH gets antivir.cz, everyone happy, flame war ends.
If not, maybe we'll be seeing soon legal threats between two major AV vendors, while they should be spending that money ;) protecting their customers from the real bad guys.
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You obviously haven't read the full information about this or you wouldn't say that.
avast previously have antivir.cz and antivir.com (which means antivirus in the Czech language) which they used. Some years ago they released antivir.com (a worldwide domain) to Avira and they retained antivir.cz which they use in the Czech Republic.
So if this was such an issue for Avira why didn't they negotiate with avast at the time they bought antivir.com a couple of years ago ???
Not to mention we aren't talking about a country specific domain like .cz but one that encompasses many countries in Europe, with the use of a .eu domain name.
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Well, that was back when AVIRA was called AntiVir. And it kinda made sense back then. But today, it's called AVIRA and chasing the antivir.cz domain is just a hunting for common name. However avast.eu is not related to AVIRA in trillion light years, so AVIRA holding it on purpose is indeed a dirty business practice and even though i don't have anything against AVIRA as an app (because it's pretty good in some aspects), i find this quite offensive.
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Well, that was back when AVIRA was called AntiVir. And it kinda made sense back then. But today, it's called AVIRA and chasing the antivir.cz domain is just a hunting for common name. However avast.eu is not related to AVIRA in trillion light years, so AVIRA holding it on purpose is indeed a dirty business practice and even though i don't have anything against AVIRA as an app (because it's pretty good in some aspects), i find this quite offensive.
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so AVIRA holding it on purpose is indeed a dirty business practice and even though i don't have anything against AVIRA as an app (because it's pretty good in some aspects), i find this quite offensive.
Not only offensive but how could I still trust and make business with a company that have such practice? sorry thumb down Avira for me...
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You know I'm not sure if Avira is behind this. It's likely....
It could also be some fanatic of Avast that went to Avira or just doesn't like Avast.
Whatever the case may be, it isn't right.
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You know I'm not sure if Avira is behind this.
They already know it. They are behind this for sure.
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You know I'm not sure if Avira is behind this. It's likely....
It could also be some fanatic of Avast that went to Avira or just doesn't like Avast.
Whatever the case may be, it isn't right.
Then why would the CEO of Avira respond to the avast blog and unfortunately since you come to the party a little late and haven't read all the information, when the avast blog that contained it has been removed. Not to mention had you checked the whois information you wouldn't say that.
It is clearly correct.
I believe it was also discussed on the avira forum closed community area also.
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I just now saw this thread (not sure how I missed it earlier). I posted the thread at dslreports on this and posted in the Avira Miscellaneous forum thread and also in the Avast blog replies.
Didn't you guys see that Vincent thanked Tjark for his post and said "All's well that ends well". I read that and went to sleep. When I got up and tried to refresh the blog page to see if there were new comments, I got Avast's version of a 404 error. The blog had been erased along with all comments and the new one put up.
Evidently, Vincent believes that he will get the domain once the registrar actually releases it. Tjark was being a bit snotty when he indicated that whoever gets there first will get it when it is released. But then Tjark had a right to be a bit snotty as he didn't post that blog. Vincent posted that to force Tjark to respond publicly. Now we have to wait and see if Avast does manage to acquire the domain when it is released or if someone else happens to grab it first. Avast will eventually get it because an appeal would see it granted immediately to Avast.
We'll never know the full story. Like why did Tjark decide to release it two weeks ago...why then in particular? He was tired of phone calls from Vincent? I don't know. I can see nastiness on both sides and what is worse this was a public washing of dirty laundry. That should never happen. It tarnished both companies that their CEO's were acting like children on a school yard playground having a fight. I have both Avira and Avast and intend to continue to have both but I think it would be nice to replace both CEOs with more mature individuals who can settle problems without resorting to this sort of entertaining spectacle.
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I have both Avira and Avast and intend to continue to have both but I think it would be nice to replace both CEOs with more mature individuals who can settle problems without resorting to this sort of entertaining spectacle.
Yeah, both the CEOs have acted rather childlishly and now I find faults at both ends.
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good post Mele20 :)
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For some reason, still the http://www.avast.eu is redirecting to Avira AntiVir's website. This is absurd!
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Any new news on this topic?
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I wish some words (maybe from the CEO) about the blog changing and the keeping of the redirection... Is it possible?
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Some of the replies to the original Avast CEO blog were really informative and I wish they were still available. I recall a couple that explained the process in releasing a domain. I can't remember very well but I think the gist of those comments was that the owner can release the domain at anytime but it isn't released by the registrar until the end of the ownership period. Something like that. If I am remembering correctly then the date when ownship ends is when the domain will become available and Avast should be able to get it not the date when the current owner, Avira CEO, deletes it. I didn't know anything about the process before I read those replies and I really wish the replies were still there so I could read them again and better understand how these things are handled.
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I think it was posted somewhere that the comments were incorrectly deleted and, for any other reason (lack of backup?), can't be restored.
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lol nvm mind that ;D
Seems that my mind went too far :-[
Sorry...!
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I am starting to wonder where the spammers in avast forum come from >_>
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