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What do you think Avira is?

They are a cheat, no doubt about it.
50 (89.3%)
I trust Avira and I am sure they must have a good reason nehind this.
6 (10.7%)

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Voting closed: July 28, 2010, 02:42:25 PM

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bong2x

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2010, 09:02:18 PM »
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Legally, you are right but this kind of behavior makes me wonder if the company is trustworthy....especially when the chief developer of their "rival" company is like this...

it is a professional way in recognition of fellow competitors ;)

but about this topic, the point is, you can use the real name of your product to publish, why using the name of competitors?
or why using another name to hide the real name of the product?
if you sure that your product is great, then why hiding it?

they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?


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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2010, 09:05:53 PM »
they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?

Easy.  To swindle away some unsuspecting customers away from avast.

I don't see this as a big deal.  Avira knew what they were doing when they bought the name and redirected it to their page.

Yeah, it's not exactly good business, but if they can get a few more users in doing so, more power to them.

Just make sure that when you give Avast's name to others, remind them to type the real address.
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2010, 09:14:59 PM »
I moved to Avast because Avira 10 stinks. What s been discussed here
makes me wonder, if Avira the company, is also going down the tubes
as their antivirus application is. I think it would be better for both compa-
nies to come to an agreement as they did in the past. Avast is a better
antivirus company and does not need to fight with Avira specially now
that their AV application is turning for the worst in all aspects IMO.
Does anybody knows when Avira started using the "Avast.eu" domain?
 
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2010, 09:33:46 PM »
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Just make sure that when you give Avast's name to others, remind them to type the real address.
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Avast is a better
antivirus company and does not need to fight with Avira
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2010, 09:42:20 PM »
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Does anybody knows when Avira started using the "Avast.eu" domain?

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2010, 09:46:17 PM »
Avira performed the most dirtiest and lowest trick of all time.

wow - thats extremely hard stuff! :(
is that even legal ???
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2010, 09:49:41 PM »


Childish Behavior  ::)
Obviously brought on by Avira being totally green with envy and jealous of Avast.


they can use avira.() or antivir.() why using exactly Avast.()?

Exactly!   >:(


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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2010, 12:07:21 AM »
If a link is supposed to go to Avira but actually takes you to avast!, or vice versa, why in god's name would anyone be stupid enough to buy the product simply because the link takes them there? If I want avast! and end up at a site for Avira am I going to say, oops this is Avira but I wanted avast!, I guess I'll buy Avira?  ;D

If a company does actually do this intentionally you gotta wonder at their mentality.

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2010, 12:15:14 AM »

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2010, 12:19:56 AM »
why in god's name would anyone be stupid enough to buy the product simply because the link takes them there?
Stupidity is all around us... To infinite and beyond ;D

If a company does actually do this intentionally you gotta wonder at their mentality.
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2010, 05:29:04 AM »
Hi,

It's look like not really professional business rule for this case :

1. If avira would like to reach www.antivir.cz, why they don't fight to get let.e.g with hit the better price or got permission. But if ALWIL don't want to give this domain, why they are not to choose others domain like some evangelist mentioned in here? I think avira have hidden purpose to purchase www.antivir.cz, but it's ok...that i call business like the jungle..who is the strength one, then they will kill the weakness one.

2. I believe ALWIL Software has did the right things, even i didn't knew exactly what has been happened before this case blow up. Because according to Vince article, his already tell everything in details description.

I am don't want to judge who is the rite one, because we don't have the right to do this but let the time decide it which one is the rite one...

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2010, 08:20:13 PM »
Avira AntiVir 10 is taking the beeting. Estimated over 1000 Avira users have changed their antivirus to either Avast! to AVG in the past 6 months. Go figure!

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2010, 08:45:23 PM »
Well the original redirect now appears to have been killed, no more is avast.eu redirecting to antivir.com, etc.

The CEO of Avira posted on the avast blog about this, saying that they have deleted the the avast.eu domain name and stated, case closed. I responded to that post saying that considering the redirect was still in place it was hardly case closed.

So it appears to be good news if this non-redirection isn't just a glitch.

Another point of note the original avast blog and all the comments has now been pulled (and a modified one posted), so perhaps this is an indication that the matter is now closed, watch this space ;D
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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #58 on: April 01, 2010, 08:49:40 PM »
Where are the comments in the blog? ???
Were they deleted?

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Re: Avira pulls off the dirtiest trick on Avast!
« Reply #59 on: April 01, 2010, 08:55:20 PM »
As I said the original blog and all comments have been pulled. Presumably as a result of the redirection being killed.

The new modified blog has no comments as it doesn't mention the antivir redirect deception/trick/scam of avast.eu, call it what you feel it was.
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