Avast+Immunet = Great
If the avast in the cloud protection covers the same, I'd like to hear.
ClamAV and Immunet are going to separate and go in different direction after some time.They always say so... then, sooner or later, the free product is not more updated, disappears from the market, become shareware...
Avast+Immunet = Great
run each of the files through a dozen of AV scanners (in the cloud) and if at least some of them detect something, report the file as infected.How do they do so?
run each of the files through a dozen of AV scanners (in the cloud) and if at least some of them detect something, report the file as infected.How do they do so?
Is any file uploaded to be scanned?
My specific objection against these "new" in-the-cloud AV's is that they shamelessly parasite on the existing AV vendors who spent decades of R&D on getting where they are.
I mean, what most of these home-grown clouds do is basically run each of the files through a dozen of AV scanners (in the cloud) and if at least some of them detect something, report the file as infected. Building a business on top of such an idea is not very nice indeed, and calling such an "engine" ETHOS only adds to its blatantness.
Just my opinion of course.
Thanks
Vlk
Immunet seems to use a different method- which is to observe any AV it is installed next to an report files that AV detects as malicious to Immunet. (See blog post.) Sort of like a parasite, feeding and growing stronger on a host, if you want to look at it that way.O-ho..what a presumptuous strategy..[i prefer to look it that way]
http://dontsurfinthenude.blogspot.com/2010/03/anti-virus-in-cloud.html
only unrecognised files are uploadedWow!
Immunet seems to use a different method- which is to observe any AV it is installed next to an report files that AV detects as malicious to Immunet. (See blog post.) Sort of like a parasite, feeding and growing stronger on a host, if you want to look at it that way.Well, still unacceptable!
In a nutshell, our goal is to find threats which are in small parts of our community, analyze them and then protect the whole community from them as fast as possible, often in near real time.I can't believe! Are we boiling the ocean?
We do not focus on obscure threats, or threats which circulate outside of our community. We are not big fans of the 'boil the ocean' approach to doing Anti-Virus.
It works well for reviewers (who test with everything under the sun) but it rarely really helps your community.Makes no sense. The infection is real, being or not in the community.
1. Generic detection of threats through broad hashing. We look for things that look 'like' threats we know of and try to further analyze them for conviction so we can protect the community. This can also be called a 'heuristic' engine if you like. Our generic engine is ETHOS; we have another planned for May, which is called SPERO.Generic detection? ???
From community collected data we can make assumptions about whether a file is a virus or not.Privacy concerns.
For example, did our AV stop working after it was installed? Did the system start to see other viruses after it was installed? Questions like this will often lead to answers, which make us highly suspicious of a file.Again: the antivirus team has the work and they just "use" it.
In a nutshell, our goal is to find threats which are in small parts of our community, analyze them and then protect the whole community from them as fast as possible, often in near real time.I can't believe! Are we boiling the ocean?
We do not focus on obscure threats, or threats which circulate outside of our community. We are not big fans of the 'boil the ocean' approach to doing Anti-Virus.It works well for reviewers (who test with everything under the sun) but it rarely really helps your community.Makes no sense. The infection is real, being or not in the community.
Now it seems a stupid community imho.1. Generic detection of threats through broad hashing. We look for things that look 'like' threats we know of and try to further analyze them for conviction so we can protect the community. This can also be called a 'heuristic' engine if you like. Our generic engine is ETHOS; we have another planned for May, which is called SPERO.Generic detection? ???
What's that? They're using others' engine!!!From community collected data we can make assumptions about whether a file is a virus or not.Privacy concerns.For example, did our AV stop working after it was installed? Did the system start to see other viruses after it was installed? Questions like this will often lead to answers, which make us highly suspicious of a file.Again: the antivirus team has the work and they just "use" it.
Rest assured that any files sent to Immunet are used solely to protect our users and rarely even seen by a human. We also do not collect documents or other sensitive information.I can't trust in this "technology" they're using. I feel like Vlk posted before.
Now, the reality is that most, if not all, AntiVirus products send suspicious files to their labs for analysis. Some products make this configurable, while others don't. It has become standard practice primarily because it helps to identify new threats. The caveat here is that this should be clearly visible and configurable for our users.They don't "do" anything... just "use" the others' detection and hard work.
still waiting for Vlk's take on HitMan Pro vs GData licensing
Doom, Gloom please I need more Room to add just one more antivirus program or,
something else to keep me safe from spam.
Maybe another firewall will help the situation to keep me safe from all this abomination.
Now that I've loaded up my computer with all this stuff,
I realize that booting up my system is really getting ruff.
When I try to get on-line, it's really taking a long time.
I can't even watch a video cause it's really running slow.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In case you have been following this thread then you wouldn't be asking this question. Anyway, its because I don't find any reason why Vlk finds a product like HitMan Pro offensive.still waiting for Vlk's take on HitMan Pro vs GData licensing
May I ask WHY ???
Can any technical person please check if Immunet is leaching on to other installed AV's ?Frank has already done it for you.
Immunet seems to use a different method- which is to observe any AV it is installed next to an report files that AV detects as malicious to Immunet. (See blog post.) Sort of like a parasite, feeding and growing stronger on a host, if you want to look at it that way.
http://dontsurfinthenude.blogspot.com/2010/03/anti-virus-in-cloud.html
Hm..I am wondering why immunet is putting askbar also..And why some other software also..
I have removed the download link because I had no permission to give it to users who didn't sign up for beta testingChris,
Sorry about that!
I have removed the download link because I had no permission to give it to users who didn't sign up for beta testingChris,
Sorry about that!
I believe you where also asked not to post any screen shots.
TETRA is a powerful traditional antivirus engine which provides protection for users when they are not connected to the Internet and acts as a supporting role to other engines when you are online
Hope AIS include HIPS in the future. Then we can let ThreatFire away...
What ThreatFire and Immunet saying it a good idea to have something next to your AV software as another layer of defence, it doesn't matter if you choose ThreatFire or Immunet it your choice it still a great idea to have something next to your AV and firewall.Do you trust Immunet company?