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Title: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: !Donovan on October 09, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
Well, I have Firefox 3.6.10 and it said Finjan version 1.314 couldn't download because it wasn't compatible. My question is, is Finjan still updated for Firefox?
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: Asyn on October 09, 2010, 09:01:19 PM
edited...
It seems the last update was in 2009...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finjan
asyn
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: YoKenny on October 09, 2010, 09:31:25 PM
Still works great in IE8 and IE9. ;)
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 10, 2010, 07:55:59 AM
Well, I have Firefox 3.6.10 and it said Finjan version 1.314 couldn't download because it wasn't compatible. My question is, is Finjan still updated for Firefox?

As far as know Finjan has been sold to a company call m86security see link http://www.m86security.com/ (http://www.m86security.com/) this new company hasn't plan updating the the old Finjan version to support the latest Firefox browser v3.6.10 this can only work on version 3.6.9 not the latest. According to the new company whether their planning to update the version or end of finjan support browsing version commisson, I haven't heard any news if they are planning to continue or not otherwise we may have to move over onto WOT.

M86 Security Acquires Finjan http://www.m86security.com/i/M86-Security-Acquires-Finjan,news.1155~.asp (http://www.m86security.com/i/M86-Security-Acquires-Finjan,news.1155~.asp)

Finjan Launches Industry-First Hybrid Cloud Web Security http://www.m86security.com/i/Finjan-Launches-Industry-First-Hybrid-Cloud-Web-Security,news.1376~.asp (http://www.m86security.com/i/Finjan-Launches-Industry-First-Hybrid-Cloud-Web-Security,news.1376~.asp)
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: George Yves on October 10, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
As far as know Finjan has been sold to a company call m86security see link http://www.m86security.com/ (http://www.m86security.com/) this new company hasn't plan updating the the old Finjan version to support the latest Firefox browser v3.6.10 this can only work on version 3.6.9 not the latest.
It's only partially true. I have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10. This version of Finjan was taken from http://securebrowsing.finjan.com/ and it is compatible with Firefox 1.5-3.7a1pre.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 10, 2010, 09:39:50 PM
It's only partially true. I have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10. This version of Finjan was taken from http://securebrowsing.finjan.com/ and it is compatible with Firefox 1.5-3.7a1pre.

George Yves finjan doesn't work on the latest version of Firefox v3.6.10 please explain your justification claiming that you have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10 ??? ??? ???

(http://forum.avast.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=64869.0;attach=53789;image)
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on October 10, 2010, 10:20:30 PM
As far as know Finjan has been sold to a company call m86security see link http://www.m86security.com/ (http://www.m86security.com/) this new company hasn't plan updating the the old Finjan version to support the latest Firefox browser v3.6.10 this can only work on version 3.6.9 not the latest.
It's only partially true. I have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10. This version of Finjan was taken from http://securebrowsing.finjan.com/ and it is compatible with Firefox 1.5-3.7a1pre.

Well it seems that they have changed the .xpi file add-on installation file, the install.rdf file within the .xpi only supports 3.0.* (see image). So this version, obtained from the link George gave, shouldn't even support firefox 3.5 or 3.6, much less 3.6.10.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: Jahn on October 10, 2010, 10:59:49 PM
I have Finjan 1.314 add-on with Firefox 3.6.10 on six XP systems, and it works flawlessly (for now, anyway) except the Finjan/M86 servers are sometimes slow to respond or not available. I occasionally get this same behavior when testing a site at http://www.m86security.com/resources/url-analysis.asp.

It will be a shame if M86 discontinues this service for Firefox users, and maybe eventually IE users. If this happens, VTzilla (http://www.virustotal.com/advanced.html) (Browser Addons tab) will be a good choice for pre-scanning files and websites for FF users.

For those interested, the Firefox 3.6 add-on compatibility check can be disabled, but use with caution. How-To Geek (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6697/how-to-force-extension-compatibility-with-firefox-3.6)
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on October 10, 2010, 11:25:41 PM
Well it is possible to modify the install.rdf (as in the image) and that only changes the single add-on and not compatibility checking for all add-ons.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: Jahn on October 11, 2010, 12:14:18 AM
Well it is possible to modify the install.rdf (as in the image) and that only changes the single add-on and not compatibility checking for all add-ons.

You are right, that would be a better method. As stated before, I am not having any compatibility issues.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: George Yves on October 11, 2010, 12:28:59 AM
George Yves finjan doesn't work on the latest version of Firefox v3.6.10 please explain your justification claiming that you have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10 ??? ??? ???

Trust your eyes if you don't trust my words.

(http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/1010/65/6b640f43a852.jpg)   (http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/1010/a6/3a359f37348b.jpg)

I didn't modify the install.rdf, nor force installation with the help of other extensions. And you can read about the extension's compatibility on the first screenshot.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: bob3160 on October 11, 2010, 12:36:12 AM
Your images aren't available.  ???
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: !Donovan on October 11, 2010, 12:39:24 AM
It's not just you, I have the same problem. :-\
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: bob3160 on October 11, 2010, 01:48:25 AM
It's not just you, I have the same problem. :-\
We aren't the ones with a problem. ;D
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on October 11, 2010, 02:19:32 AM
George Yves finjan doesn't work on the latest version of Firefox v3.6.10 please explain your justification claiming that you have Finjan 1.314 installed on Firefox 3.6.10 ??? ??? ???

Trust your eyes if you don't trust my words.
<snip>
I didn't modify the install.rdf, nor force installation with the help of other extensions. And you can read about the extension's compatibility on the first screenshot.

No, it looks like the company have consciously modified the xpi file effectively blocking anything higher than firefox 3.0.* as in my image, that is what they are currently serving up right now. When they made this change I don't know, but obviously after you installed/updated it.

Try uninstalling at (not advised if you want to use it) and then try to install what is on the site, your in for a shock it won't work.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: George Yves on October 11, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
It's not just you, I have the same problem. :-\
We aren't the ones with a problem. ;D
You're speaking about the images in my post? I'm using radikal.ru to display images and I can see them without any problem. Maybe they are blocked by something like MBAM resident protection?

Now you can see my screenshots attached to this post.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: George Yves on October 11, 2010, 06:55:38 AM
it looks like the company have consciously modified the xpi file effectively blocking anything higher than firefox 3.0.* as in my image, that is what they are currently serving up right now. When they made this change I don't know, but obviously after you installed/updated it.
I've just downloaded and un-zipped the extension's XPI-file to look into its install.rdf. You're absolutely right: they modified it to be compatible with 1.5-3.0.* only. I really didn't know about that and I want to apologize if I insulted you and SpeedyPC.

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Try uninstalling at (not advised if you want to use it) and then try to install what is on the site, your in for a shock it won't work.
I see no much help from this extension but I don't want now to experiment with it. I'm thinking to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 11, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
I really didn't know about that and I want to apologise if I insulted you and SpeedyPC.


George it no need to apologise it cool no hard feeling I didn't realised you had to amended some of the firefox extension file to allow Finjan add-on to work on the latest browser version, that's very clever and it not the very scene-able way to do this because you can damage firefox very badly if you had to uninstall the finjan extension file you could end up leave junk behind inside the firefox browser which it not very good.

SpeedyPC
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on October 11, 2010, 03:12:13 PM
I really didn't know about that and I want to apologise if I insulted you and SpeedyPC.

No offence taken and no need to apologise, all we were trying to do was clarify the situation,

George it no need to apologise it cool no hard feeling I didn't realised you had to amended some of the firefox extension file to allow Finjan add-on to work on the latest browser version, that's very clever and it not the very scene-able way to do this because you can damage firefox very badly if you had to uninstall the finjan extension file you could end up leave junk behind inside the firefox browser which it not very good.

SpeedyPC

You shouldn't have had to modify the installation file or firefox to get it to work, the problem arises from the company changing the installation file that allowed it to run on firefox versions up to 3.7.

George just happened to be fortunate to have download or updated the add-on before the company arbitrarily changed it effectively dumping current firefox versions. When a company is prepared to get up to this nonsense I wouldn't be using it anyway. Personally I tried it some time ago and ditched it as it slowed the search results, etc. (I was on dial-up then).
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: George Yves on October 11, 2010, 07:51:57 PM
DavidR
You're right. I've uninstalled Finjan and my Firefox began to fly.  :)

SpeedyPC
Sorry but I can't quite understand the English you used in your post. Is it a dialect?
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: clemenzina on November 09, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
George's experience makes sense to me, because I had Finjan working fine in an earlier FF 3.6.*, but then got a new netbook and bingo! *sob*

I really miss Finjan.  WoT is no substitute because (IMO) its ratings are so easily distorted by Joe Public.

Is there another pre-visit site scanner that a non-techie could use in FF 3.6.12?

Windows7 Home Premium.

clemenzina :)
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: Asyn on November 09, 2010, 03:22:51 PM
Is there another pre-visit site scanner that a non-techie could use in FF 3.6.12?

Well, avast does block malicious sites... ;)
For safer surfing you should also add NoScript to FF..!!
asyn
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: clemenzina on November 09, 2010, 03:50:17 PM
You are quite right, Asyn, and I used to have NoScript but got muddled with it (I am rather old and doddery).

HOWEVER!!!

I thought to myself, why pay for all-in phone calls and not dive into the unknown free-of-charge occasionally?  So I phoned M86 (01256 848 080) and a young man told me that Finjan has become "M86 Secure Web Gateway", which is being re-branded and updated to cope with today's threats and which will be available for us private users FREE within ("can't promise exactly", he said) a few weeks!  AND, "it will be better than Finjan" :o

Breath-holding not recommended ;)

clemenzina
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: YoKenny on November 09, 2010, 07:17:28 PM
George's experience makes sense to me, because I had Finjan working fine in an earlier FF 3.6.*, but then got a new netbook and bingo! *sob*

I really miss Finjan.  WoT is no substitute because (IMO) its ratings are so easily distorted by Joe Public.

Is there another pre-visit site scanner that a non-techie could use in FF 3.6.12?

Windows7 Home Premium.

On Windows 7 I switched to IE9
IE9, FF4 Beta In Real-World Benchmark
http://www.lucidchart.com/blog/2010/09/16/ie9-ff4-beta-in-real-world-benchmark

I don't mess with NoScript as it has to be kept up to date more than IE iself.  ;)

I do like Google Chrome on my XP Pro system though.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
It doesn't have to be kept up to date manually so it isn't a chore, add-ons can be automatically updated.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: YoKenny on November 09, 2010, 08:18:13 PM
It doesn't have to be kept up to date manually so it isn't a chore, add-ons can be automatically updated.
Yea but you are only using XP that is as close to being a Dinosaur as can be.

Your system is well capable of running Windows 7 64bit but you resist and I fail to understand why ???

Maybe you like old stuff ???

Maybe you are stuck in the back woods of England with no clear view that the world is changing and you are stuck in the boonies with low Internet access speed and terrible English weather that would drown a duck unless it had Wellington Boots.

I see you are here for an argument:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
It doesn't have to be kept up to date manually so it isn't a chore, add-ons can be automatically updated.
Yea but you are only using XP that is as close to being a Dinosaur as can be.
<snip>

So bloody what, if I had Vista or win7 I would still be using firefox as it suits my needs and NoScript would be a part of that, which as I said can be automatically kept up to date and isn't a chore.

What has this got to do with your previous comment and my reply, answer nothing.

So there you go off in a totally wild tangent as per normal.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: clemenzina on November 09, 2010, 10:39:59 PM
On Windows 7 I switched to IE9

I tried a beta a couple of weeks ago - it crawled and froze most of the time :(

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I do like Google Chrome on my XP Pro system though.

I have Chrome now on W7, I use it for certain sites, eg a favourite forum and GMail.

I hope that alert members here will update this thread when the reborn Finjan is released :D  Dozy me will probably miss it, I can't see that we can subscribe to an M86 newsletter ???

clemenzina
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: YoKenny on November 09, 2010, 11:10:36 PM
On Windows 7 I switched to IE9

I tried a beta a couple of weeks ago - it crawled and froze most of the time :(

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I do like Google Chrome on my XP Pro system though.

I have Chrome now on W7, I use it for certain sites, eg a favourite forum and GMail.

I hope that alert members here will update this thread when the reborn Finjan is released :D  Dozy me will probably miss it, I can't see that we can subscribe to an M86 newsletter ???
As you are a Newbie here I suggest with only 3 posts you read a bit more. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUhR2o6VGWU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lY0_yIQM8Y&feature=channel

How much RAM does the system have?

Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: clemenzina on November 10, 2010, 12:42:23 AM

As you are a Newbie here I suggest with only 3 posts you read a bit more. ;)

Not so new that I have to mass-quote so that it is not clear what I am responding to ;)

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How much RAM does the system have?

3gb DDR3 :)

clemenzina (>>>gawn awf to YouTube >>>)

EDIT: Touch-screens and comparisons Windows7:Vista - have you made a mistake with your links ???
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: bob3160 on November 10, 2010, 12:46:16 AM
I'm not such a newbie and am running Win7 but can't install IE9 at all.  >:(
All it ever does on my main system is crash crash crash.
Guess I'll stay with IE8 for now especially since IE isn't my default browser.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 10, 2010, 07:20:39 AM
Guess I'll stay with IE8 for now especially since IE isn't my default browser.

Awwww yuck :P IE8 is for old puppy dogs ;D.........better stick with my FF ;D and only use IE8 for windows update security patch.
Title: Re: Finjan Vital Security For Firefox Not Updated?
Post by: bob3160 on November 11, 2010, 08:09:24 PM
Guess I'll stay with IE8 for now especially since IE isn't my default browser.

Awwww yuck :P IE8 is for old puppy dogs ;D.........better stick with my FF ;D and only use IE8 for windows update security patch.
Actually, my default browser is Chrome and since I have Win 7, I don't need IE for updates.  :)