Thanks Tech,,it only happened when I went to target.com,,,I use AOL and also tried it using IE. Same results,,get the pop up about the blocked site,,will try one of the scanners you suggested,,but defender wants to install an add-on,,,"qsax.cab",,,is it OK to allow that,,please remember I'm not very good with these types of problems. Also if I try to run any of those other anti-virus programs isn't there a chance there will be a conflict as I use avast?