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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2013, 06:47:16 PM »
Thanks, appreciate it
Yes, happy with that. ;D ;)
Curious though, why go to that length to install an "optional" offering.
Is Optional still considered 'an important security update'?  ???
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2013, 06:51:22 PM »
Not really but I consider that it is always nice to have all patches in place even if I do not need them at the moment

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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2013, 07:34:48 PM »
Not really but I consider that it is always nice to have all patches in place even if I do not need them at the moment

I agree, that's good computing.  :)
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2013, 07:47:43 PM »
Had you tried not going through WU and instead downloading the package from the Microsoft Downloads site and then manually installing it? That always worked for me on the Vista machine here when Office 2003 and Works 9 updates would fail in WU.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2013, 10:48:11 PM »
According to Microsoft KB2876415 is a rollup package for performance and reliability issues and correct other patches: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2876415/en-us

In the past when having problems with dotnet updates I would install them in safe mode. Now Essexboy method is the best chance. Also there is a guy that deactivated avast! and WinPatrol ( no recomendable and I am not saying the issue is because avast! ) and was able to install it:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_update/kb-2876415-will-not-install/c32d2773-b3ec-42c0-bf36-35f1f15e5946?auth=1
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2013, 10:53:50 PM »
The standalone package hung as well

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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2013, 04:06:26 PM »
Well It looks like MS is becoming a bit careless because last time when I tried installing a .NET update on one of my XP test computers,it leaded into BSOD's and I had to clean boot to get it going.Damn,XP!!

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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2013, 04:08:38 PM »
Would disabling the NET.framework solve this issue at all.
Can the NET.framework be safely disabled in a general sense.?

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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2013, 05:53:00 PM »
I haven't had any problems with .NET and it's usage is so widespread these days that I would not recommend disabling or removing it.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2013, 06:18:36 PM »
Lets be clear, .net framework isn't an essential nor is it a part of the OS.

You only require it if you have a program that uses it and I have a few programs that do.

Without doubt the .net framework updates have been a pain in the rear for me over the years. I have had lots of failures of the update and a number that had to be installed many times as it kept being notified again.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 06:37:36 PM »
A version of .NET is included in every Windows installation so you could say it is a part of the OS. If you have an ATI/AMD graphics card, you can't update your drivers without having at least .NET 2.0. An ever increasing amount of other software is employing the framework as well. It has reached the point where you could say it is practically essential.

I have never had a problem with a .NET update since it first came out. My only complaint is that sometimes the updating takes a very long time to complete, especially on older machines.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2013, 07:05:04 PM »
According to Microsoft KB2876415 is a rollup package for performance and reliability issues and correct other patches: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2876415/en-us

In the past when having problems with dotnet updates I would install them in safe mode. Now Essexboy method is the best chance. Also there is a guy that deactivated avast! and WinPatrol ( no recomendable and I am not saying the issue is because avast! ) and was able to install it:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_update/kb-2876415-will-not-install/c32d2773-b3ec-42c0-bf36-35f1f15e5946?auth=1

Thanks. Good points, and I also had the Installer PkG hang as well.
I had considered other Security Program interference but not interested in tracking it down at this point. Could be Avast, could be another program.  Doing Clean Boot and Install directly.
Thanks all! 8)
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2013, 11:41:53 PM »
According to Microsoft KB2876415 is a rollup package for performance and reliability issues and correct other patches: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2876415/en-us

In the past when having problems with dotnet updates I would install them in safe mode. Now Essexboy method is the best chance. Also there is a guy that deactivated avast! and WinPatrol ( no recomendable and I am not saying the issue is because avast! ) and was able to install it:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_update/kb-2876415-will-not-install/c32d2773-b3ec-42c0-bf36-35f1f15e5946?auth=1

Thanks. Good points, and I also had the Installer PkG hang as well.
I had considered other Security Program interference but not interested in tracking it down at this point. Could be Avast, could be another program.  Doing Clean Boot and Install directly.
Thanks all! 8)

You are welcome. Hope it can be installed by Essexboy's method or in Safe Mode.

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My comment about installing dotnet updates ( .NET Framework ) was just an example to schmidthouse for another way to try to install KB2876415. Yes, dotnets always been a pain, but nothing to do with this patch.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2013, 02:21:52 AM »
A version of .NET is included in every Windows installation so you could say it is a part of the OS. If you have an ATI/AMD graphics card, you can't update your drivers without having at least .NET 2.0. An ever increasing amount of other software is employing the framework as well. It has reached the point where you could say it is practically essential.

I have never had a problem with a .NET update since it first came out. My only complaint is that sometimes the updating takes a very long time to complete, especially on older machines.
I agree with DavidR, with one exception:  XP does not come with dotnet unless you have a program that needs it and you put it there, or that program automatically installs that specific dotnet on installation, but Win 7 comes with .NET 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 installed already.  As far as I know, .NET 1.0 is still optional, as is .NET 4.0.  We're talking native dotnet applications supported by the newer os's whereas they weren't before.  Vista may be the same as Win 7, but I do not know that.  It's Microsoft that is building their os's to run these from the get-go now.  From what I understand, removing these native dotnets may cause problems that may or may not be recoverable in that os.
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Re: Any Problems with Windows Update?
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2013, 09:02:00 AM »
The latest AMD Catalyst driver packages require .NET 4.5 and automatically install it. I repeat, so many things require it that it has become essential for nearly everyone.
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