Software Recommendations

[CraigB]

Libre Office require Java Runtime Environment to function.

Libre works fine here and there's no Java installed, for the few functions that do require Java if needed! then Java can also be disabled from web access.

[Para-Noid]

I forgot to add the one downside of Kingsoft, it can't save in either odf or odt formats.
If I remember right JRE is included in both Open Office and Libre Office. It's in the software.
At least it was in OO v4.0.

[Charyb-0]

As of Open Office 3.4, it's a separate install.

http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

[Gopher John]

I forgot to add the one downside of Kingsoft, it can't save in either odf or odt formats.
If I remember right JRE is included in both Open Office and Libre Office. It's in the software.
At least it was in OO v4.0.

Java is not included in LibreOffice.  Java must be downloaded separately and installed.  None of the installs nor updates of LibreOffice that I have downloaded has ever included Java.

[Para-Noid]

As of Open Office 3.4, it's a separate install.

http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

I "was" sure it was included. Not sure now. 
Mine must of been there since I updated from 3.0 through 4.0 via the OpenOffice GUI.

[Gopher John]

IIRC, at one time Open Office offered two different downloads; one with Java and the other without.  You had the choice on the download page.

[Para-Noid]

It was a long time ago that I first downloaded OO. I must have chosen the one with java.
It was back in 2008 that I first used OO.

[avastuser1243]

SlimDriver yes, SlimCleaner no. Use CCleaner instead.

Bob, is it OK to use the registry cleaner in CCleaner? As far as knew from reading on here in the past it was, until I read this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563254 from this thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147685.0

If you're asking me, the answer is NO. Even though some haven't had any problems. I know of other that have had a problem.
The time saving feature of cleaning your registry amounts Milliseconds. IMHO not worth taking a chance not to reboot the system at all.
"If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it."

Do you think that's what has caused the problem I described to you and essexboy in this thread about not being able to update from Windows 8 to 8.1? I used to clean the registry regularly with CCleaner automatically by just selecting "fix all issues" without even looking at the entries individually. Although, I did clean install Windows 8 before attempting the 8.1 update and didn't use CCleaner after the clean install.

[bob3160]

SlimDriver yes, SlimCleaner no. Use CCleaner instead.

Bob, is it OK to use the registry cleaner in CCleaner? As far as knew from reading on here in the past it was, until I read this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563254 from this thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147685.0

If you're asking me, the answer is NO. Even though some haven't had any problems. I know of other that have had a problem.
The time saving feature of cleaning your registry amounts Milliseconds. IMHO not worth taking a chance not to reboot the system at all.
"If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it."

Do you think that's what has caused the problem I described to you and essexboy in this thread about not being able to update from Windows 8 to 8.1? I used to clean the registry regularly with CCleaner automatically by just selecting "fix all issues" without even looking at the entries individually. Although, I did clean install Windows 8 before attempting the 8.1 update and didn't use CCleaner after the clean install.

Simple answer NO. I have one computer here that I haven't been able to upgrade from Windows 8 to 8.1 and I'm also waiting for the next upgrade
before trying it again. That computer never had it's registry cleaned.

[avastuser1243]

SlimDriver yes, SlimCleaner no. Use CCleaner instead.

Bob, is it OK to use the registry cleaner in CCleaner? As far as knew from reading on here in the past it was, until I read this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563254 from this thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147685.0

If you're asking me, the answer is NO. Even though some haven't had any problems. I know of other that have had a problem.
The time saving feature of cleaning your registry amounts Milliseconds. IMHO not worth taking a chance not to reboot the system at all.
"If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it."

Do you think that's what has caused the problem I described to you and essexboy in this thread about not being able to update from Windows 8 to 8.1? I used to clean the registry regularly with CCleaner automatically by just selecting "fix all issues" without even looking at the entries individually. Although, I did clean install Windows 8 before attempting the 8.1 update and didn't use CCleaner after the clean install.

Simple answer NO. I have one computer here that I haven't been able to upgrade from Windows 8 to 8.1 and I'm also waiting for the next upgrade
before trying it again. That computer never had it's registry cleaned.

Do you mean you're going to wait for Windows 8.2 to try again or the next Windows 8 updates like essexboy suggested to me?

[bob3160]

SlimDriver yes, SlimCleaner no. Use CCleaner instead.

Bob, is it OK to use the registry cleaner in CCleaner? As far as knew from reading on here in the past it was, until I read this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563254 from this thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147685.0

If you're asking me, the answer is NO. Even though some haven't had any problems. I know of other that have had a problem.
The time saving feature of cleaning your registry amounts Milliseconds. IMHO not worth taking a chance not to reboot the system at all.
"If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it."

Do you think that's what has caused the problem I described to you and essexboy in this thread about not being able to update from Windows 8 to 8.1? I used to clean the registry regularly with CCleaner automatically by just selecting "fix all issues" without even looking at the entries individually. Although, I did clean install Windows 8 before attempting the 8.1 update and didn't use CCleaner after the clean install.

Simple answer NO. I have one computer here that I haven't been able to upgrade from Windows 8 to 8.1 and I'm also waiting for the next upgrade
before trying it again. That computer never had it's registry cleaned.

Do you mean you're going to wait for Windows 8.2 to try again or the next Windows 8 updates like essexboy suggested to me?

I'll be waiting till 8.1.1 or whatever they finally decide to call the next release.