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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2005, 12:27:27 PM »
Just to post the advantages of Flock over Firefox 1.5.
Here you can see a report of Firefox 1.5 instabilities: http://internetweek.cmp.com/175007058

  • Firefox's use of physical and virtual memory is exceptionally high.
  • CPU usage spikes to 100 percent (usually while loading a Web page).
  • The browser freezes up for seconds, minutes, or permanently.
  • The browser won't launch until they remove an errant "firefox.exe" process in Task Manager.
  • The browser crashes suddenly (usually while loading a Web page).
  • The browser has trouble loading specific pages, but there's no commonality among users as to which pages won't load.
  • The initial launch of Firefox loads slower.
  • Third-party application hyperlinks (such as a link in an e-mail message) take a long time to open a new Firefox tab or to launch the browser.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2005, 02:28:48 PM »
Yes this is happening, but as the report/s clearly state, it isn't happening to everyone. I have experienced some high memory use up to 114MB but none of the others reported. I have also done the suggested about:config tweak to see if that reduces memory usage.

Unfortunately the bullet points don't tell the whole story.

I would also like to know, since the Flock browser is based on the firefox core, perhaps this is happening also but because it is not so widely distributed (and the issues raised, not effecting every firefox user), then it is quite possible that it hasn't been noticed.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2005, 03:52:06 PM »
Hi DavidR.

I have beta tested the Flock developer's preview now from day 1. And I test security on Flock. Never crashed on me even once, FF dozens of times, especially when you open it to view an update page (ClamWin version, from ZoneAlarm), slow when you use the full format.
The add-on Fasterfox helps considerably, but Flock is the more stable. leaner, faster browser with the better user-friendliness. And that what it is all about. I think the consistency of the coding bunch of Flock is greater, the noses stood one way, and the results proof it. Both browsers would not bring the difference, nor FF nor Flock, was n't it for the add-ons like developer toolbar, NoScript, Adblock extra, Dr. Web hyperlink scanner etc. These things really make these browsers shine.
FF does strange things now and again, and not in all cases these things are reproducible. For the not so fainthearted have Flock next to it, and give it a try, or wait one month and a half or two for the official launch of the full version.

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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2005, 04:13:12 PM »
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When I don't use GreenBrowser, there are (IMHO) only 2 other browser choices:
1. Flock    or,
2. Opera

FF has always been slower to start than either of these 2 and since FF latest version,
there are just to many incompatabilities. It's still on my computer but isn't being used any more.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #109 on: December 22, 2005, 04:28:15 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Is that a large community using the GreenBrowser, and what made you choose it?
How long have you used it, and what are the plusses for you?

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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #110 on: December 22, 2005, 04:40:34 PM »
I've used GreenBrowser and I thought it was just like Avant and Maxthon really  :-\ I then was tired of all the IE based Browser's and moved to FireFox. I use IE Tab 1.0.7 "Alpha" and it works most of the time. FireFox does not seem slow to me at all. It loads Images alot faster then IE does anyday.

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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #111 on: December 22, 2005, 04:43:50 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Is that a large community using the GreenBrowser, and what made you choose it?
How long have you used it, and what are the plusses for you?

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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #112 on: December 22, 2005, 05:17:22 PM »
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When I don't use GreenBrowser, there are (IMHO) only 2 other browser choices:
1. Flock    or,
2. Opera

FF has always been slower to start than either of these 2 and since FF latest version,
there are just to many incompatabilities. It's still on my computer but isn't being used any more.
Well untill two months ago you had never heard of flock much less used it. As I have said, considering it is based on the core I will hold my judgement until 1) it is in a public release and not developers version. That way when it is installed on many more systems with different configurations perhaps we will be able to judge it in the same light as firefox.

I only start firefox once a day and it takes 9 seconds if I do shut it down the second load is quicker, if I used prefetch then perhaps this would be quicker still (sushhhh we do't want to wake the prefetch bears). So 9 seconds hardly earth shatteringly slow, but I didn't ditch avast because of the slow boot issues which are rearing their heads. I would do as you suggested some time ago switch on and get a coffee if it were that bad.

I still don't like the opera interface, no matter how fast it loads and as you keep saying everyone has their own reason for selecting their browser and is their choice.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #113 on: December 22, 2005, 06:08:07 PM »
My whole post included IMHO. By now most of us know that you're a strong advocate for FF
just as I have my prefernce in GreenBrowser.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #114 on: December 22, 2005, 08:25:24 PM »
Dear DavidR,

Why don't you download the Flock release and try it on your comp. I am certain by a couple of months' try-out, that it sure won't hurt your machine, and you can give a review from personal experience with it. I think the good Lord's Besemers funds are well spent on this solid browser's development, and that also must be an appealing thought especially to a subject of Brittania's Empire  ;).

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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #115 on: December 22, 2005, 08:31:02 PM »
I installed PocketFlock on my USB. All I can say is, this browser will rule the browsing world one day. Unbelievable easy to navigate, so light, most beautiful GUI I've ever seen in my whole life... so sleek, so neat, so clean... unbelievable.

I guess I waited long enough, and I'm not gonna wait for final release... I'm installing it on both of my machines right this moment. It should be installed on every single system.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #116 on: December 22, 2005, 09:25:18 PM »
Why don't you download the Flock release and try it on your comp.
Thanks but no thanks, not until it is released to the public late beta, etc. I did consider it but having visited one of the links that you gave, found that you have to sign-up to get the developers release and I couldn't see the point of that, I'm not a developer.

Having only one system I tend not to use alpha or very early beta releases and the developers release is even earlier than alpha.

So when it gets to that stage then I may try it but like most things I would have to feel dissatisfied to need to look to an alternative. Like I did when I first sought an IE alternate, MyIE (didn't like the old interface), Avant and Maxthon (ex MyIE improved). However, all those use the IE core ad I'm trying to avoid activeX, BHOs and fully integrated into the OS, that is why I went to firefox and generally I've been happy with it. So when I'm good and ready I will seek it out.

I still have a hard time getting my head round the fact that flock uses the firefox core and if there is a problem with the firefox core that should also present itself in flock?
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #117 on: December 22, 2005, 09:36:48 PM »
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I still have a hard time getting my head round the fact that flock uses the firefox core and if there is a problem with the firefox core that should also present itself in flock?

No, if it's re-programmed properly. There is a lot of Open sources out there, and some programmers just keeps ruining the core, while others make best out of it. I believe it's the case everywhere with everything. But, really... Flock is one hell of a stable and fast browser, even with the fact that it's still in Developer's stage.
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #118 on: December 22, 2005, 11:46:42 PM »
Ok guys. I have a question here if you don't mind. i'm thinking about turning over to Opera one more time and I need to know is it really... worth going back to since the 8.5 release? Could somebody please tell me who's better here. Fire... or... Opera?!

when I was on Opera for awhile I got the feeling it loaded pages and kept them in memory very well. I had no problems besides on this one site but they had a fix for it. Although the Memory usage tat alot of users had still worrys me  :-\ FireFox any has a big Issue on it. So... what's up? FireFox or Opera  :o

I know I could just download Opera and test it and all that junk but I would like a vote  ::)
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Re: Have you heard of Flock?
« Reply #119 on: December 22, 2005, 11:56:14 PM »
You already have my answer... ;D
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